China Not Required To Pay Taxes On Bond Interest That Is Required Of US Taxpayers

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" China Not Required To Pay Taxes On Bond Interest That Is Required Of US Taxpayers "

* Senator Letter To Department Of Treasury About Unfair Advantage *


Does anyone have information on where the policy may be located which does not require china to pay taxes on bond interest ?

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) is calling out China for taking advantage of a tax loophole that could be costing American taxpayers billions while not living up to its end of our trade agreements. She’s also urging the U.S. Treasury Department to calculate and disclose to taxpayers the true price of the United States’ debt to China and other nations, including the cost of the interest we pay and the revenues lost due to the tax loophole.

The Iowa senator continues: “The Department of Treasury maintains a monthly accounting of major foreign holders of U.S. debt that serves as a great reminder of the more than $1 trillion we are in debt to the Chinese. What is not as transparent is how much China profits from our red ink, both in terms of dividends paid on the interest off of Treasury bonds and a special loophole that exempts those profits from taxation. If its government-owned industries were treated the same as a U.S. citizen or small business, China would be required to pay taxes on the interest earned on the Treasury bonds that our government sells as a way to borrow money. Due to a decades old trade deal, however, China pays no tax on U.S. Treasuries, which allows it to make off with billions of dollars that would otherwise be owed to the U.S.”


 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
 
" Yeah Sure Not "

* Looking For The Code Not Disinformation *

China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a United States tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

ITIN numbers are issued by the IRS to individuals who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain, a valid U.S. Social Security Number, but who are required by law to file a U.S. Individual Income Tax Return.

Regardless of immigration status, both resident and nonresident immigrants may have Federal tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code.[3]


ITINs are also used by real estate brokers to facilitate mortgages for unauthorized aliens.[8] In addition to use by unauthorized aliens, ITINs are used by foreign investors in United States real estate. Such investors need ITINs to file federal and state tax returns to report rental income.

In 2006, 1.4 million people used ITINs when filing tax returns. Federal tax law generally prohibits the IRS from sharing data with other government agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security, assuring unauthorized aliens[5] that the tax information will be confidential and generally will not be used to initiate removal procedures.[6][7]
 
" Yeah Sure Not "

* Looking For The Code Not Disinformation *

China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a United States tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

ITIN numbers are issued by the IRS to individuals who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain, a valid U.S. Social Security Number, but who are required by law to file a U.S. Individual Income Tax Return.

Regardless of immigration status, both resident and nonresident immigrants may have Federal tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code.[3]


ITINs are also used by real estate brokers to facilitate mortgages for unauthorized aliens.[8] In addition to use by unauthorized aliens, ITINs are used by foreign investors in United States real estate. Such investors need ITINs to file federal and state tax returns to report rental income.

In 2006, 1.4 million people used ITINs when filing tax returns. Federal tax law generally prohibits the IRS from sharing data with other government agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security, assuring unauthorized aliens[5] that the tax information will be confidential and generally will not be used to initiate removal procedures.[6][7]

Your OP is complaining that China doesn't have to file a return under the law ... why would they need an ITIN? ... I have an ITIN for a corporation I once ran, it needed a separate tax return from my personal return ...

This is the trick of having an off-shore corporation ... the off-shore corporation doesn't have to report earnings to the IRS and doesn't pay US taxes itself ... only when we pay ourselves dividends do any US taxes get paid ... at least before The Donald took office ... the tax bill in 2017 changed that in ways I'm not familiar with ... so this trick might not work anymore ...

I think you need to read up on the differences between earned income and unearned income ... and see how they're taxed differently ...
 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
Doesn't matter...........foreign or whatever----if you make money in the US even on interest then you are supposed to pay US income tax.
 
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Your OP is complaining that China doesn't have to file a return under the law ... why would they need an ITIN?
My thoughts are that the op was asking for information on the statute , whereby china is not required to pay tax on interest earned on us treasury bonds .

If its government-owned industries were treated the same as a U.S. citizen or small business, China would be required to pay taxes on the interest earned on the Treasury bonds that our government sells as a way to borrow money. Due to a decades old trade deal, however, China pays no tax on U.S. Treasuries, which allows it to make off with billions of dollars that would otherwise be owed to the U.S.”

* In Discussions With Those Who Would Have Done Nothing *

 
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Doesn't matter...........foreign or whatever----if you make money in the US even on interest then you are supposed to pay US income tax.

Ha ha ha ... that's rich ... comedy gold ...

Find the tax form that says "If line 49 is less than $1,750,000, enter -0- on line 44 'Tax to pay' on Form 1040" ... then figure out how to channel all your income to that line 49 ... easy peasy ...

There's 20,000 pages of Tax Code ... use them ... paying taxes is soooo Middle Class ...
 
... Due to a decades old trade deal, however, China pays no tax on U.S. Treasuries, which allows it to make off with billions of dollars that would otherwise be owed to the U.S. ...

Ah ... see that ... this is part of a trade deal ... which is lawful ... if you want this changed, then join me and vote for The Donald ...

"Billions of dollars" is chump change ... that buys exact one Air Force bomber ... we borrow by the trillions these days ...

Why we let China buy Treasuries is a whole lot less important than why we have Treasuries to sell ... but if we insist on selling them, we have to make them a good deal ... count the tax break as added interest from the bond ... today's 30-year is paying 1.535% ... not much better than a casino ...
 
I haven't seen much talk about just how much the Federal Reserve has bought lately.

Probably worthy of its own discussion. I guess we all know who's gonna get stuck paying the principle plus interest on that bond that the federal reserve bought with a check that was drawn on an account that has nothing in it.
 
I haven't seen much talk about just how much the Federal Reserve has bought lately.
Probably worthy of its own discussion. I guess we all know who's gonna get stuck paying the principle plus interest on that bond that the federal reserve bought with a check that was drawn on an account that has nothing in it.

"Printing money" ...

I have a postage stamp in my collection that has a face value of 5 "billion" Marks ... 1923 Germany ... Lord knows how much money they printed ...

(that's 5,000,000, or five million in English ... German skips "thousands")
 
I haven't seen much talk about just how much the Federal Reserve has bought lately.

Probably worthy of its own discussion. I guess we all know who's gonna get stuck paying the principle plus interest on that bond that the federal reserve bought with a check that was drawn on an account that has nothing in it.

I guess we all know who's gonna get stuck paying the principle plus interest on that bond that the federal reserve bought with a check that was drawn on an account that has nothing in it.

The same people who are responsible for all the debt the Treasury issues.
 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...

Maybe you should put US first.
 
" China Not Required To Pay Taxes On Bond Interest That Is Required Of US Taxpayers "

* Senator Letter To Department Of Treasury About Unfair Advantage *


Does anyone have information on where the policy may be located which does not require china to pay taxes on bond interest ?

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) is calling out China for taking advantage of a tax loophole that could be costing American taxpayers billions while not living up to its end of our trade agreements. She’s also urging the U.S. Treasury Department to calculate and disclose to taxpayers the true price of the United States’ debt to China and other nations, including the cost of the interest we pay and the revenues lost due to the tax loophole.

The Iowa senator continues: “The Department of Treasury maintains a monthly accounting of major foreign holders of U.S. debt that serves as a great reminder of the more than $1 trillion we are in debt to the Chinese. What is not as transparent is how much China profits from our red ink, both in terms of dividends paid on the interest off of Treasury bonds and a special loophole that exempts those profits from taxation. If its government-owned industries were treated the same as a U.S. citizen or small business, China would be required to pay taxes on the interest earned on the Treasury bonds that our government sells as a way to borrow money. Due to a decades old trade deal, however, China pays no tax on U.S. Treasuries, which allows it to make off with billions of dollars that would otherwise be owed to the U.S.”


Wow. Congress really is a swamp. The problem is we must be fond of them because we keep re-electing them and when we do fire one we use the same two employment agencies despite their track record
 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
State and local governments don't make money, they lose it.
 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
Maybe we should change that loophole and make china pay
 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
Maybe we should change that loophole and make china pay

No foreign central bank has to pay taxes on US Treasury Bond (or Note or Bill) interest.
 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
Maybe we should change that loophole and make china pay

No foreign central bank has to pay taxes on US Treasury Bond (or Note or Bill) interest.
I dont think china deserves the same treatment as banks of our friends
 
China isn't considered a US Citizen ... they're not obligated to file a 1040 with the IRS ... state and local governments don't file with the IRS either ... maybe we should look to our own selves first? ...
Maybe we should change that loophole and make china pay

No foreign central bank has to pay taxes on US Treasury Bond (or Note or Bill) interest.
I dont think china deserves the same treatment as banks of our friends

If we don't want to be the reserve currency of the world, we should definitely make
it harder for foreign central banks to hold dollars.
 

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