China is the loser in trade war

[CrusaderFrank]

America has faults

But there is no question our government is better than the CCP

Agreed, but only on the fringes

 

[Mac-7]

Agreed, but only on the fringes

I would describe it as just the opposite

The Founders created the greatest form of government in history

But on the fringes it suffers from sin, greed, and small stupid people

Yet, just often enough patriots like Ronald Reagan and now Donald Trump step forward to right the ship

 

[Mac-7]

The evidence is overwhelming that china is in crisis

kneejerk trump haters, white monkeys who shill for china, the dems, and globalists keep telling us that china is unbeatable

Allegedly china is the immovable object, while at the same time the Irresistible force

But its a lie

Wake up libs!

Nuthin' Fancy :

What did I say that you disagree with?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Are you serious?

Do you really believe that china’s communist dictatorship is better then what we have in America?

Your dear leader thinks so.............

'Maybe we'll give that a shot': Donald Trump praises Xi ...​

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › mar › donald...
Mar 4, 2018 — US president says it is 'great' that the Chinese premier has paved the way to become president for life.

 

[Mac-7]

You're dear leader thinks so.............

'Maybe we'll give that a shot': Donald Trump praises Xi ...​

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The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › mar › donald...
Mar 4, 2018 — US president says it is 'great' that the Chinese premier has paved the way to become president for life.

Trump respects his enemy

I dont have a problem with that

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Nuthin' Fancy :

What did I say that you disagree with?

China will rebound easily, America won't.

BRICS | Members, History, Name Origin, Proposed ...​

Britannica
https://www.britannica.com › ... › International Relations
Apr 13, 2025 — The acronym BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, and China) was first used by Goldman Sachs economist Jim O'Neill to describe the four economies that could, if growth were maintained, dominate thedominant economic players of the 21st century.




Trump got canceled the TPP agreement.
China stepped in.
Now that Trump has tariffs on every country on earth, who would want to deal with us?
Especially since joining BRICS,

 

[Dragonlady]

The evidence is overwhelming that china is in crisis

kneejerk trump haters, white monkeys who shill for china, the dems, and globalists keep telling us that china is unbeatable

Allegedly china is the immovable object, while at the same time the Irresistible force

But its a lie

Wake up libs!

Trump's trade war is driving the world to do business with China because the USA is not a reliable or stable trading partner. You elected a convicted criminal, who has a habit of tearing up agreements he negotiated, like the USMCA Trade Agreement, when it turns out he negotiated badly.

Neither Trump nor the USA can be trusted to fulfill their agreements any longer because Trump is not a reliable business partner. You decided to elect a 6 times bankrupt convicted felon as President.

Elections have consequences, and the destruction of the US economy has long been a goal of your idiot President. It's retribution for his failure to make money. The rest of the world has little interest in dealing with you so long as this criminal is in the White House.

 

[Mac-7]

Now that Trump has tariffs on every country on earth, who would want to deal with us?

Practically everyone

Because America has by far the largest economy in the world

The EU economy is a shambles thanks to green energy madness at about half our size

There is no way they can absorb china’s over production

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Practically everyone

Not with Trump in office.
Americans don't even trust him.

Because America has by far the largest economy in the world

Not compared to the rest of the world.

The EU is a shambles thanks to green energy madness at about half our size

There is no way they can absorb china’s over oroduction

No shit.
America can't either.
But the rest of the world can.

 

[Mac-7]

Not with Trump in office.
Americans don't even trust him.

Not compared to the rest of the world.

No shit.
America can't either.
But the rest of the world can.

America can't either.
But the rest of the world can.

Dont let the CCP propaganda mislead you

China has a lot of idle factories and workers looking for jobs

If the rest of the world needed more stuff from china they would already have been buying it before now

 

[Mac-7]

America can't either.
But the rest of the world can.

Dont let the CCP propaganda mislead you

China has a lot of idle factories and workers looking for jobs

If the rest of the world needed more stuff from china they would already have been buying it before now

Nuthin' Fancy :

What do you disagree with now?

Do you not know how seriously screwed up china’s economy is?

 

[j-mac]

Nope. Just recognize why your average Chinese (Including Mrs. B131) does.

Interesting.

Naw, if I wanted to speed up the decline, I'd just keep voting Republican.

The decline started in 2020, Trump is the response to that.

Less than three months in, and Trump has already wrecked the economy. That has to be some kind of a record.

A record in triggering the fear mongers, and fake news disseminators. Like yourself.

No, a government that produces Donald Trump is a failure.

Funny, I would say that electing, then propping up a mentally deficient man as a puppet president, then setting out to destroy as much of this country as you could is the failure here, and the American people told you than last November.

America is a democracy with the flaw that if you have a stupid electorate, you get stupid leaders.

China is a technocracy. Whether or not that is better remains to be seen. Definitely more efficient.

It is good to see you embrace your Communist love....It's a sure sign in America that you are less than irrelevant.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

America can't either.
But the rest of the world can.

Dont let the CCP propaganda mislead you

WTF?
Not propaganda FACTS.

There are 340 million people in the US.
There are 7.5 billion who aren't.

China has a lot of idle factories and workers looking for jobs

So do we...........NOW.

If the rest of the world needed more stuff from china they would already have been buying it before now

Really?
Who is to say they aren't.
Not at the same pace, China has a backlog of inventory.
Selling their backlog without tariffs is easier than selling to one country with tariffs.

 

[Mac-7]

WTF?
Not propaganda FACTS.

There are 340 million people in the US.
There are 7.5 billion who aren't.

So do we...........NOW.

Really?
Who is to say they aren't.
Not at the same pace, China has a backlog of inventory.
Selling their backlog without tariffs is easier than selling to one country with tariffs.

you are not being logical

If other countries wanted more stuff from china they would already have been buying it

I suppose BYD for instance can cut the price of their cars by 50% snd sell 50% more cars

But thats s bad example because those cars were not bound for America anyway

So lets use big screen TVs

Somehow I cant see 85” chinese TVs in every grass hut in Africa unless china gives them away free

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

you are not being logical

BS.

If other countries wanted more stuff from china they would already have been buying it

Why do keep saying that?

China's 2025 Outbound Investment: Key Markets & Sector ...​

China Briefing
https://www.china-briefing.com › news › chinas-2025-o...
Apr 10, 2025 — China's outbound direct investment is shifting toward emerging markets in Southeast Asia, the Middle East, and Central Europe.

Hungary, Türkiye, and Morocco are positioning themselves as key destinations for Chinese electric vehicle (EV) and lithium battery manufacturers, leveraging established automotive industries and competitive tax policies.
Meanwhile, Southeast Asia—particularly Thailand and Malaysia—is tapping into China’s expertise to accelerate its industrial upgrade, expanding partnerships in both the automotive and semiconductor sectors.
In the Middle East, countries like Saudi Arabia and the UAE are strengthening economic ties with China to drive diversification efforts, particularly in renewable energy, e-commerce, and technology.

I suppose BYD for instance can cut the price of their cars by 50% snd sell 50% more cars

But thats s bad example because those cars were not bound for America anyway

So lets use big screen TVs

Somehow I cant see 85” chinese TVs in every grass hut in Africa unless china gives them away free

SURE..........

 

[Mac-7]

BS.

Why do keep saying that?

China's 2025 Outbound Investment: Key Markets & Sector ...​

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China Briefing
https://www.china-briefing.com › news › chinas-2025-o...
Apr 10, 2025 — China's outbound direct investment is shifting toward emerging markets in Southeast Asia, the Middle East, and Central Europe.

Hungary, Türkiye, and Morocco are positioning themselves as key destinations for Chinese electric vehicle (EV) and lithium battery manufacturers, leveraging established automotive industries and competitive tax policies.
Meanwhile, Southeast Asia—particularly Thailand and Malaysia—is tapping into China’s expertise to accelerate its industrial upgrade, expanding partnerships in both the automotive and semiconductor sectors.
In the Middle East, countries like Saudi Arabia and the UAE are strengthening economic ties with China to drive diversification efforts, particularly in renewable energy, e-commerce, and technology.



SURE..........

Who are these 3rd world countries going to sell to?

China?

Chinese consumers are busted and have no disposable income

China’s Belt and Road has not been a happy experience anywhere its gone

It benefits china but not so much for the host countries

If not for corrupt dictators taking bribes or simply being too stupid to read the fine print I wonder how many of those projects would be approved?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Who are these 3rd world countries going to sell to?

China?

Yes, and to other BRICS countries.

Chinese consumers are busted and have no disposable income

Some are, some are not.
Just like Americans.

China’s Belt and Road has not been a happy experience anywhere its gone

It benefits china but not so much for the host countries

That might change with the US tariffs.

If not for corrupt dictators taking bribes or simply being too stupid to read the fine print I wonder how many of those projects would be approved?

Reminds me of Trump.

 

[Mac-7]

Some are, some are not.
Just like Americans.

The chinese are in worse shape that the CCP admits

Officially everything there is wonnurful

And if this were the dark ages before the Internet it would be difficult to prove otherwise

But now everyone has a smart phone and they post video’s contrary to the official lies

 

[citygator]

How has America lost?

You are blowing smoke

We are done leading the world. We lead as long as people want us to. Now they are saying fuck off. Youre retarded if you think the world needs the US more than we need the world. If they continue to dump our dollar and bonds we are fucked beyond your imagination.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The chinese are in worse shape that the CCP admits.

I don't doubt that a bit.

Officially everything there is wonnurful

Is Trump any different?
It would be if only Powell were fired or lowered interest rates.

US stocks and dollar slide after Trump attacks Fed chair ...​

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › articles
4 hours ago — In a social media post, Trump called on Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell to cut interest rates "pre-emptively" to help boost the economy, ...

And if this were the dark ages before the Internet it would be difficult to prove otherwise

But now everyone has a smart phone and they post video’s contrary to the official lies