Charles Martel The Hammer

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I wonder if the Islamic residents of Seine-Saint-Denis know that the Hammer, an enemy to some at least, is interred in a cemetery within their community. I also wonder if the Islamic residents of that area demanded his removal—would the French government comply?

Who cares? The Muslims don't.

 

[Mushroom]

I was wondering, during the era of DEI, would a statue of Charles Martel erected in France be considered racist and xenophobic and torn down?

And one can not forget Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar in Spain, more commonly known as "El Cid".

 

[eagle1462010]

The HAMMER was a HERO

 

[BackAgain]

Zeitgeist is a good German word

God bless you!!

 

[longly]

Who cares? The Muslims don't.

I wouldn't be too sure of that, based on what I've read and interviews I've seen with Muslim individuals.
I recall an interview in which someone expressed intense hatred toward Alexander the Great, saying he wished Alexander could be brought into the present day so he could be cut into pieces. That’s a remarkable sentiment, considering Alexander died over 2,300 years ago.

Given that, how could one not harbor animosity toward Charles Martel, known as "The Hammer," for the humiliation he inflicted on the Umayyad forces at the Battle of Tours in 732? He earned the nickname not because he was a carpenter, but because he struck his enemies with a ferocity that’s difficult to comprehend today3.

Martel didn’t merely defeat the Umayyads on the battlefield—he pursued them relentlessly. After their leader, Abd al-Rahman al-Ghafiqi, was killed, the Muslim forces retreated in disarray to al-Andalus (present-day Spain), suffering heavy casualties and enduring a humiliating withdrawal

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Harboring animosity?

Sure. He killed people he did not like.

Moslems today could not care.

 

[Litwin]

Longly defines what liberals think wrongly.

And there are statues of Charles Martel in France. Of course there are.

Here is one in the Versailles.

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Charles Martel is very huge in France, by the way , the Muslims had no a chance in France

 

[longly]

And one can not forget Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar in Spain, more commonly known as "El Cid".

El Cid—now there's another extraordinary European military leader of the Middle Ages. If the legends about him are even half true, he was an incredibly Individual. However, he did have one notable weakness: personal discipline. He fell out of favor with his sovereign, King Alfonso VI of Castile, and was exiled in 1081. The reasons for his exile are debated, but my personal opinion is that it stemmed from unauthorized military actions. The problem with people of this type is that they often think they're smarter than everyone else—and in his case, that might actually have been true for the time.

During his exile, El Cid entered the service of a Muslim ruler—the king of the Taifa of Zaragoza. Far from being a setback, this may have worked to his advantage. It gave him the opportunity to understand his former enemies up close and personally, and he continued to build his reputation as a brilliant and pragmatic military commander

 

[Zebra]

in German he is Karl Martell

like Karl der Große