Canadian healthcare, twice been to hospital for heart issue, they take a covid test and tell me everything is fine.

[BULLDOG]

No, he wouldn't. He is in an office not a hospital, he doesn't have the facilities for such a potential life or death situation. He would probably call the ambulance himself.

You haven't been to too many cardiologists, have you? My cadiologists has most of that in his office. He could certainly get you an expedited appointment at a clinic nearby. I doubt the emergency room sent you away without an enzyme test.

 

[cnm]

I had symptoms of a heart attack, the E.R is precisely the place to be. Are you a wine and caviar Trust Fund European who gets emergency medical service to his door at the snap of his fingers?

Go to your family doctor to check those symptoms out, simp.

 

[cnm]

Well if you were involved, certainly. I know that not every system is perfect, but the issues I faced are reflective of what is rampant in Ontario at the moment. We have people waiting seven hours for ambulances here.

Probably because too many are too fucking stupid to go to their family doctor.

 

[MisterBeale]

I have been fortunate for awhile, but twice in two weeks I had to go to the hospital for sharp pain/numbess in my left arm, left shoulder blade, tightness in chest, shortness of breath and fatique/feeling of fainting. I felt I might vomit it was so bad.

The took my blood both times, all is good, the took an x-ray twice (why the need the second time when had one on file is beyond me). Then, they find out I am unvaxxed so they swab my DNA to confirm I don't have covid. Tells me I should see my family doctor (why the hell am I in the hospital after almost fainting?), somewhat akin to telling me to call the cops when a guy is barreling down on me with a knife.

Doctors and nurses treat me as if I am a burden, wasting their time. He tells me "I don't meet the ideal target for heart attack (not overweight, don't smoke, not over age 60 etc)" even after I told him I had chest pain and soreness in my arm after a run a couple of months ago, fear narrow arteries etc.

THIS is Canadian healthcare. This is what some want for you in Canada. We are one of the creepiest countries known to man...

It's possible, given everything you have described, that it could be a recent installation in the past few years of a 5G tower in your area, and, reconfiguration of how smart meters are controlling energy use. Energy use is a really, really big issue for governments and corporations recently.

This is what is known, as, "smart cities," and this can, have the ability to affect, folks with even perfectly healthy hearts. It might not appear on tests, once you leave the area of the smart meter, and/or 5G transmitter.

I had a doctor, who was a high functioning neurodivergent, what we call, "Aspergers," or autism. We were once discussing my chronic migraine triggers that came after my multiple procedures. I told him, that I often had them after terrible bouts of tinnitus, the tinnitus was caused either by weather, or other mysterious causes, and we got into some of his personal research. . . . To try to understand the origins of his own life problems.

If, after seeing a cardiologist, they come up with nothing? It might be worth looking into. If you can think of nothing else.

Energy in the environment can probably have more effect over us, than most of us are willing to acknowledge. Maybe. I read a Harvard report on it once. The establishment doesn't really like to acknowledge it very much. It is sort of even more problematic, than even getting rid of plastics and tobacco, for what the folks that run things, need and want to do.

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[shockedcanadian]

You haven't been to too many cardiologists, have you? My cadiologists has most of that in his office. He could certainly get you an expedited appointment at a clinic nearby. I doubt the emergency room sent you away without an enzyme test.

Unless that enzyme test is conducted via my blood samples, they didn't do so.

What people have to understand is that it doesn't have to exclusively pertain to my heart. What about my lungs? My arteries (I had considered a blood clot)? I simply want some train of exploration. Instead, I was told my x ray and blood were "perfect" (I find that hard to believe, I'm not 21 anymore) and viewed as a pariah.

I go to the hospital two times in 17 years prior to the last two weeks and the insinuation is that I don't need to be there.

The type of approach one would take to discourage me from a hospital visit in the future and then a stroke or other major impact ruins my life, if it doesn't take it altogether.

 

[BULLDOG]

Unless that enzyme test is conducted via my blood samples, they didn't do so.

What people have to understand is that it doesn't have to exclusively pertain to my heart. What about my lungs? My arteries (I had considered a blood clot)? I simply want some train of exploration. Instead, I was told my x ray and blood were "perfect" (I find that hard to believe, I'm not 21 anymore) and viewed as a pariah.

I go to the hospital two times in 17 years prior to the last two weeks and the insinuation is that I don't need to be there.

The type of approach one would take to discourage me from a hospital visit in the future and then a stroke or other major impact ruins my life, if it doesn't take it altogether.

Of course it's done with a blood test dumb ass. If there is any damage to your heart, your body releases enzymes into your blood. You showed no sign of anything wrong with your heart, so they told you to go see your own doctor to figure out why you were hurting.

 

[Rigby5]

I have been fortunate for awhile, but twice in two weeks I had to go to the hospital for sharp pain/numbess in my left arm, left shoulder blade, tightness in chest, shortness of breath and fatique/feeling of fainting. I felt I might vomit it was so bad.

The took my blood both times, all is good, the took an x-ray twice (why the need the second time when had one on file is beyond me). Then, they find out I am unvaxxed so they swab my DNA to confirm I don't have covid. Tells me I should see my family doctor (why the hell am I in the hospital after almost fainting?), somewhat akin to telling me to call the cops when a guy is barreling down on me with a knife.

Doctors and nurses treat me as if I am a burden, wasting their time. He tells me "I don't meet the ideal target for heart attack (not overweight, don't smoke, not over age 60 etc)" even after I told him I had chest pain and soreness in my arm after a run a couple of months ago, fear narrow arteries etc.

THIS is Canadian healthcare. This is what some want for you in Canada. We are one of the creepiest countries known to man...

Canadian health care is about a gazillion times better than US health care.
That is because the Canadians get paid the same so might as well at least look at you.
With the US, its all about ensuring insurance company profits, so they can't even look at you unless there is no possible alternative.

If you can run, you likely do not have heart problems, and you would tell by blood pressure, not soreness, chest pains, etc.
Narrow arteries means high blood pressure greater than 130/80.

 

[Rigby5]

You think if I went to my family doctor (he runs by appointment of course) for tightness of chest, pain in my left arm, shortness of breath, fatique/light headedness that he is going to just throw me on the table and operate?

He would tell me to "go to the hospital ASAP".

WRONG!
ER's are for trauma, NOT heart problems.
No ER is ever going to do an emergency surgery for ANY heart problem.
The requires all sorts of dye x-rays, tests, etc., that ERs do NOT do, for many days, if not weeks, before deciding what might be the best course of action.
No doctor is ever going to tell you to go to the ER for heart problems.

 

[Rigby5]

I've been to the hospital more times the last two weeks than the 17 years prior. You think I am whiny to want to remain alive?

I went six months or more with a major burning pain in my abs due to not having my healthcare due to a "birth certificate mistake". Would you accept that?

Maybe you don't know how Canada operates, especially in Ontario. It's easy to act as you do when you live in a Republic. We just had a high profile arrest of a guy who murdered a bunch of people. He is videotaped handcuffed and being placed in a cruiser. Somehow he had a "medical event" from there to the cop shop and is now dead. No details, no release of video footage for the world to see. Canadian media primarily shrug their shoulders "ah well, he deserved it anyways".

Someone like me dying would be celebrated by many of the Creepy Ones in this country I assure you.

That is really foolish.
Going to the "hospital" means going to the ER, and the ER does NOT at all have ANY heart expertise.
If instead you had gone to your doctor, who knows you, then there would have been no "birth certificate mistake".
You are not going to get good care by trying to surprise the ER.
You are supposed to call your regular doctor and meet him at the hospital.

 

[Rigby5]

I had symptoms of a heart attack, the E.R is precisely the place to be. Are you a wine and caviar Trust Fund European who gets emergency medical service to his door at the snap of his fingers?

WRONG!
The ER is students who have barely been trained for simple trauma.
It is insane to go to the ER for heart work.
No one in the ER is going to implant a pace maker for example.
At most they would drug you out so that experts can see you the next day.

 

[Rigby5]

No, he wouldn't. He is in an office not a hospital, he doesn't have the facilities for such a potential life or death situation. He would probably call the ambulance himself.

Totally and completely wrong!
The office has an EKG and will do vastly more than the ER.
Where did you get the insane idea the ER can handle heart emergencies?

 

[Rigby5]

What people have to understand is that it doesn't have to exclusively pertain to my heart. What about my lungs? My arteries (I had considered a blood clot)? I simply want some train of exploration. Instead, I was told my x ray and blood were "perfect" (I find that hard to believe, I'm not 21 anymore) and viewed as a pariah.

Exactly.
It could take weeks in order to figure out what may be wrong, so instead of starting that with someone who have your history, you surprised a couple of students, and expected them to instantly make it all better.
You totally and completely screwed up.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Exactly.
It could take weeks in order to figure out what may be wrong, so instead of starting that with someone who have your history, you surprised a couple of students, and expected them to instantly make it all better.
You totally and completely screwed up.

"Surprised a couple of students". Maybe some of the cops hanging around but not the medical staff.
This ignorant and unformed statement alone excludes you from any credibility on this subject if your bias didn't already.

 

[BULLDOG]

WRONG!
The ER is students who have barely been trained for simple trauma.
It is insane to go to the ER for heart work.
No one in the ER is going to implant a pace maker for example.
At most they would drug you out so that experts can see you the next day.

I gotta disagree. Heart attacks are a large part of the work load in any ER, and they have doctors who are well trained in how to deal with an ongoing heart attack. After the attack, treatment is transferred to a specialist. This particular patient wasn't havng a heart attack, or the enzymes would have shown it. Emergency rooms are designed to get you stabilized and past your emergency. There was no emergency, so there was nothing for them to do.

 

[SweetSue92]

You haven't been to too many cardiologists, have you? My cadiologists has most of that in his office. He could certainly get you an expedited appointment at a clinic nearby. I doubt the emergency room sent you away without an enzyme test.

You are treating this like an American. I don't think you understand "universal health care"

 

[SweetSue92]

That is really foolish.
Going to the "hospital" means going to the ER, and the ER does NOT at all have ANY heart expertise.
If instead you had gone to your doctor, who knows you, then there would have been no "birth certificate mistake".
You are not going to get good care by trying to surprise the ER.
You are supposed to call your regular doctor and meet him at the hospital.

You think this happens in "universal health care" countries?

People are dying in Australia waiting for ambulances

 

[SweetSue92]

I have been fortunate for awhile, but twice in two weeks I had to go to the hospital for sharp pain/numbess in my left arm, left shoulder blade, tightness in chest, shortness of breath and fatique/feeling of fainting. I felt I might vomit it was so bad.

The took my blood both times, all is good, the took an x-ray twice (why the need the second time when had one on file is beyond me). Then, they find out I am unvaxxed so they swab my DNA to confirm I don't have covid. Tells me I should see my family doctor (why the hell am I in the hospital after almost fainting?), somewhat akin to telling me to call the cops when a guy is barreling down on me with a knife.

Doctors and nurses treat me as if I am a burden, wasting their time. He tells me "I don't meet the ideal target for heart attack (not overweight, don't smoke, not over age 60 etc)" even after I told him I had chest pain and soreness in my arm after a run a couple of months ago, fear narrow arteries etc.

THIS is Canadian healthcare. This is what some want for you in Canada. We are one of the creepiest countries known to man...

I'm so sorry. I will pray that you find just the right people at the right time, for your good health, and for your peace of mind.

We live in Michigan, so not far. We used to travel to Canada. My husband and I agree we would never go there now. It has become a rather scary place after Covid.

 

[BULLDOG]

You are treating this like an American. I don't think you understand "universal health care"

That doesn't change much. There is no reason to think they didn't do the one major test for evidence of a heart attack. He wasnt having one, so there was nothing they could do for him. It would be the same way in emergency rooms here. Perhaps it might take him a few more days to get an apointment with a cardiologist there, but he didn't even follow through to see. My daughter has worked in emergency rooms for years, first as a nurse, then as a nurse practitioner, and now as a doctor who specializes in emergency medicine. I have personal experience with emergency room procedure for the heart attacks I have had. What he described is no different than what he could expect here.

 

[SweetSue92]

That doesn't change much. There is no reason to think they didn't do the one major test for evidence of a heart attack. He wasnt having one, so there was nothing they could do for him. It would be the same way in emergency rooms here. Perhaps it might take him a few more days to get an apointment with a cardiologist there, but he didn't even follow through to see. My daughter has worked in emergency rooms for years, first as a nurse, then as a nurse practitioner, and now as a doctor who specializes in emergency medicine. I have personal experience with emergency room procedure for the heart attacks I have had. What he described is no different than what he could expect here.

But what you can then expect in the US is a very quick follow up with a primary care physician. That is FAR from guaranteed under "universal health care".

 

[BlackSand]

I have been fortunate for awhile, but twice in two weeks I had to go to the hospital for sharp pain/numbess in my left arm, left shoulder blade, tightness in chest, shortness of breath and fatique/feeling of fainting. I felt I might vomit it was so bad.

The took my blood both times, all is good, the took an x-ray twice (why the need the second time when had one on file is beyond me). Then, they find out I am unvaxxed so they swab my DNA to confirm I don't have covid. Tells me I should see my family doctor (why the hell am I in the hospital after almost fainting?), somewhat akin to telling me to call the cops when a guy is barreling down on me with a knife.

Doctors and nurses treat me as if I am a burden, wasting their time. He tells me "I don't meet the ideal target for heart attack (not overweight, don't smoke, not over age 60 etc)" even after I told him I had chest pain and soreness in my arm after a run a couple of months ago, fear narrow arteries etc.

THIS is Canadian healthcare. This is what some want for you in Canada. We are one of the creepiest countries known to man...

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If you have another episode ... Call the EMT's to come and get you.
Unless Canada in still in the Stone Age, they can do an EKG on the way to the hospital
and give you nitro to dilate the veins and arteries if necessary.

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