So your plan is, I'm going to have to pay 1/4 of my income in taxes to pay for public health care.... and then save up my own money anyway, to pay for private care, because public care sucks.
What is the up-side to this?
What would
actually happen is you and most ordinary people would opt to use the public option after realizing the bullshit you've been fed by right wing propagandists is indeed bullshit. American health in general would improve because more people would regularly go to the doctor and receive preventative care. Oh, and by the way that would reduce overall healthcare costs too. Ever heard the saying that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? Yeah...
Canadian and European healthcare is not some backwards nightmare. I have been to Canada and to Europe. The people there are happy with what they have. They are amazed that we do it the way we do here. Studies say the people in those countries are happy with how they do things as well, which backs up my own anecdotal experience. They don't want to move away from public care, just find ways to improve it. We are the ones that are backwards with healthcare. Everybody else has figured it out. These propaganda pieces y'all eat up are misleading and agenda driven. Conservatives are wrong about this, and they
will lose this battle.
I don't get people like you. Propaganda? What propaganda?
307,000 vets may have died awaiting VA care, report says - CNNPolitics
This was reported by CNN, the most left-wing media outlet in the country. Even the media outlet that is practically channeling Stalin's version of socialism.... has to admit that the VA Health care system (which is as socialized as it gets), has let an estimate 300 thousand vets die on waiting lists, and that doesn't include the millions that suffered waiting months or years for treatment.
DID THAT HAPPEN OR NOT?? What propaganda do you think we are buying into? Did that happen or not????
My brother in law, was in Iraq. Him and a buddy were blown up by a IED. After coming back here, he needed some surgery on his hand. He waited months on months on months for the VA to setup an appointment. He finally said screw the VA, and went to a private doctor... AND HAD THE SURGERY DONE IN A FEW DAYS.
What propaganda do you think we're buying into, when we've seen how your system works FIRST HAND?
The only one here buying propaganda is you. You are the one ignoring all the data, all the information, all the first hand accounts....
Do you want me to post the survival rates? Which by the way, are not even accurate, because survival rates include people who survive in Canada, because they traveled to the US for care.
And by the way.... there are so many people that come to the US for care, that they have companies that specialize in getting people in to pay-for-service hospitals and care.
Timely Medical | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices
Company is called "Timely Medical Alternatives"..... alternative to what? Socialized care in Canada.
Please... let's hear your explanation? How is that propaganda? You think we made up that the company exists? You think we made up that the owner of the company, is a doctor that worked at gov-care hospitals in Canada? You think we made up that he opened this company specifically because he was tired of watching his patients die?
No, you are the idiot who is living in your oblivious left-wing propaganda BS crap. We're the ones trying to save you from your own stupidity. You are dumb as AOC banning oil, and not realizing that everyone would starve from the lack of food being transported to the cities. You are all brainless idiotic fools, and the only reason you people are even alive, is because of the good people of the right-wing trying to save you from creating your Venezuela like hell, and then wondering why your life sucks.
You foolish idiots, remind me of reading about a Jewish guy whose father was a supporter of Lenin in Soviet Russia. His father was swept up by the Stalin purges and show trials. That's you people. So dumb, you destroy yourselves if given the chance, and destroy everyone around you while your at it. Garbage people, all of you.