Can you be religious and pro science and technology?

[Mudda]

So how did Noah get kangaroos from Australia and back?

The problem is that you are a low IQ guy and you think this means something or you are just a troll. It has been explained to you before. It doesn't mean anything. Even a low IQ guy understands this. So that leaves us with you are just a troll. The problem is... you are not a very good troll. You are like the Barney Fife of trolls. You are great comedy relief.

You dismiss everything by saying that it's allegorical every time. Not everyone thinks that the bible is total fiction like you do, so that's why I ask, to see if ANYONE has a plausible theory. If it makes you uncomfortable, I understand completely.

Nope, just the books written in the literary style of allegory.

So Jesus never actual happened?

What did I tell you - like three times - the different literary types of the Bible are?

1. Stuff you think is real but can't prove. 2. Stuff you think is made up. 3. Stuff that is simply wrong.

 

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No. The Bible itself is proof of that, dumbass.

So where's the proof that the world was made in 6 days is an allegorical story? And Noah and the ark has proof as well? The story about Adam banged the girl and getting tossed from heaven has proof also? Ok, go.

Yep, all allegorical, except that bang the girl thingee, that's not in there.

So where's the proof?

You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

Ok, so all you have is wishful thinking. Got it.

No. I have common sense.

 

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The problem is that you are a low IQ guy and you think this means something or you are just a troll. It has been explained to you before. It doesn't mean anything. Even a low IQ guy understands this. So that leaves us with you are just a troll. The problem is... you are not a very good troll. You are like the Barney Fife of trolls. You are great comedy relief.

You dismiss everything by saying that it's allegorical every time. Not everyone thinks that the bible is total fiction like you do, so that's why I ask, to see if ANYONE has a plausible theory. If it makes you uncomfortable, I understand completely.

Nope, just the books written in the literary style of allegory.

So Jesus never actual happened?

What did I tell you - like three times - the different literary types of the Bible are?

1. Stuff you think is real but can't prove. 2. Stuff you think is made up. 3. Stuff that is simply wrong.

I didn't think you would remember. You smoke too much weed for that.

 

[Mudda]

You dismiss everything by saying that it's allegorical every time. Not everyone thinks that the bible is total fiction like you do, so that's why I ask, to see if ANYONE has a plausible theory. If it makes you uncomfortable, I understand completely.

Nope, just the books written in the literary style of allegory.

So Jesus never actual happened?

What did I tell you - like three times - the different literary types of the Bible are?

1. Stuff you think is real but can't prove. 2. Stuff you think is made up. 3. Stuff that is simply wrong.

I didn't think you would remember. You smoke too much weed for that.

You're a pick-n-chooser, you cherry pick things that you say are true and the rest is made up. Even though none of it is provable, at least not by you. What denomination is that again?

 

[BreezeWood]

So the universe is proof that the bible is allegorical?

No. The Bible itself is proof of that, dumbass.

So where's the proof that the world was made in 6 days is an allegorical story? And Noah and the ark has proof as well? The story about Adam banged the girl and getting tossed from heaven has proof also? Ok, go.

Yep, all allegorical, except that bang the girl thingee, that's not in there.

So where's the proof?

You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

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You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

the 4th century bible had no reason to be allegorical, they fully expected their congregation for one reason or another to be convinced or mesmerized by their version of events they could not explain.

 

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I know a southern Baptist who served as a military officer who loves movies like The Martian, Star Wars, etc and TV shows like Babylon 5, Star Trek, and Battlestar Galactica.

Can you be religious and pro science and technology? Let's see... Leon Lederman, American experimental physicist and Nobel Laureate believes he can.

"In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of in and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning." Leon Lederman, American experimental physicist and Nobel Laureate

 

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No. The Bible itself is proof of that, dumbass.

So where's the proof that the world was made in 6 days is an allegorical story? And Noah and the ark has proof as well? The story about Adam banged the girl and getting tossed from heaven has proof also? Ok, go.

Yep, all allegorical, except that bang the girl thingee, that's not in there.

So where's the proof?

You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

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You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

the 4th century bible had no reason to be allegorical, they fully expected their congregation for one reason or another to be convinced or mesmerized by their version of events they could not explain.

Catholic thought teaches otherwise. The OP asks the question can you be religious and pro-science. You are off topic. Can you trolls please stay on topic?

 

[BreezeWood]

So where's the proof that the world was made in 6 days is an allegorical story? And Noah and the ark has proof as well? The story about Adam banged the girl and getting tossed from heaven has proof also? Ok, go.

Yep, all allegorical, except that bang the girl thingee, that's not in there.

So where's the proof?

You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

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You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

the 4th century bible had no reason to be allegorical, they fully expected their congregation for one reason or another to be convinced or mesmerized by their version of events they could not explain.

Catholic thought teaches otherwise. The OP asks the question can you be religious and pro-science. You are off topic. Can you trolls please stay on topic?

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Catholic thought teaches otherwise. The OP asks the question can you be religious and pro-science. You are off topic. Can you trolls please stay on topic?

Can you be religious and pro science and technology?


catholicism is a political agenda disguised as a religion, you should stop pedaling your propaganda where it does not belong.

 

[Mudda]

Science disproves the bible, Torah and Koran in many place. So to the OP, no.

 

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Yep, all allegorical, except that bang the girl thingee, that's not in there.

So where's the proof?

You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

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You need proof that it is allegorical? You mean you can't figure that out on your own? I did.

the 4th century bible had no reason to be allegorical, they fully expected their congregation for one reason or another to be convinced or mesmerized by their version of events they could not explain.

Catholic thought teaches otherwise. The OP asks the question can you be religious and pro-science. You are off topic. Can you trolls please stay on topic?

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Catholic thought teaches otherwise. The OP asks the question can you be religious and pro-science. You are off topic. Can you trolls please stay on topic?

Can you be religious and pro science and technology?


catholicism is a political agenda disguised as a religion, you should stop pedaling your propaganda where it does not belong.

Catholic Church and science - Wikipedia

 

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Science disproves the bible, Torah and Koran in many place. So to the OP, no.

No. It doesn't. God loves science. He created it. We can use science t better understand what He has created.

 

[Mudda]

Science disproves the bible, Torah and Koran in many place. So to the OP, no.

No. It doesn't. God loves science. He created it. We can use science t better understand what He has created.

Those three books are at odds with science. It's a fact.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I know a southern Baptist who served as a military officer who loves movies like The Martian, Star Wars, etc and TV shows like Babylon 5, Star Trek, and Battlestar Galactica.

Why would the two be mutually exclusive? Many of the best historical scientists were very religious, and even members of the clergy. And as a religious person myself, I have always believed that God gave us our imaginations for a reason, and to not use them would be a rejection of His gift and its purpose.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I've been Southern Baptist for 59 years. I graduated from a Southern Baptist University with a degree in religion. I don't know any who are anti-science or technology. I know some who question a few of the current "theories" that others accept as hard "fact".

Good. Who do you think the "Young Earth Creationists" and those who take Bible literally are stemming their beliefs?

Themselves.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I've been Southern Baptist for 59 years. I graduated from a Southern Baptist University with a degree in religion. I don't know any who are anti-science or technology. I know some who question a few of the current "theories" that others accept as hard "fact".

Good. Who do you think the "Young Earth Creationists" and those who take Bible literally are stemming their beliefs?

As you said, they are using a very literal reading of the Bible and drawing conclusions without studying the Bible in it's original languages and applying some critical thinking. I do believe God created the Earth and mankind. Does that mean a literal 6 days or 6 eons as the original language should be interpreted? Could an eon be a million years or a billion years? Science gives us clues to the age of Earth. Only if you use the literal interpretation of 6 days do you run afoul of science. My greater concern than people who haven't been trained in critical thinking and accept a literal reading of the Bible are the smug and arrogant scientists who dismiss religion out of hand, make fun of it and want to see it dead. They are so impressed with their intellectual prowess that they fail to see how small minded they really are. Science and religion can complement each other and are not the adversaries that people on both sides try to make them.

1) Who are "they"? Please be specific.

2) While I agree there are some who take the Bible, Koran or any other religious text literally, they also often cherry pick from it. What do you propose should be done other than simply accept it as "abnormal"?

3) Where you trained in "critical thinking"? Where and by whom? What do you suggest be done to teach others?

Seriously, dude? You want to criticize and nitpick others' educations, and you can't even manage the basic reading comprehension necessary to follow a conversation and figure out that "they" refers to the people in YOUR post to which kwc was responding? Hoo boy. God save me from ignoramuses believing they are intellectuals.

 

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Science disproves the bible, Torah and Koran in many place. So to the OP, no.

No. It doesn't. God loves science. He created it. We can use science t better understand what He has created.

Those three books are at odds with science. It's a fact.

Nope. Sorry, you are wrong again.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You don't know shit about them and if you do, what you have been taught is bullshit.

The Socialist Phenomenon by Igor Shafarevich

Don't make me start using these facts against you.

So you lied before. This isn't just a history between you and another member, you really do hate Gnostics. Interesting that you base your entire hatred on a single book by a single Russian.

FWIW, many of Christ's teachings can be seen as "socialist", although I tend to think they are more about the "big picture", life eternal, versus the short term view of life on Earth. One thing I do know from Christ's teachings is he didn't' preach hate against others. Paul did, but not Christ.

"Many" of Christ's teachings, huh? And now you're going to expound upon exactly WHICH of Christ's teachings those would be, yes?

 

[Divine Wind]

Seriously, dude? You want to criticize and nitpick others' educations, and you can't even manage the basic reading comprehension necessary to follow a conversation and figure out that "they" refers to the people in YOUR post to which kwc was responding? Hoo boy. God save me from ignoramuses believing they are intellectuals.

You should put me on ignore as too stupid to have a conversation.

"Many" of Christ's teachings, huh? And now you're going to expound upon exactly WHICH of Christ's teachings those would be, yes?

Irrelevant now since you know I'm an "ignoramus". Have a nice day, sweetie.

 

[Cecilie1200]

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endured Western Civilization as much as possible ...

You mean the Civilization which has done more for mankind's advancement than any other?

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You mean the Civilization which has done more for mankind's advancement than any other?

as has been pointed out to you already whatever advancements have been made were done so by costs exacted by your 4th century political agenda disguised as a religion.

What do you mean whatever? Are you down playing the role Western Civilization has played in shaping mankind? Seriously? The very faith your are criticizing as false is the faith that built Western Civilization.

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What do you mean whatever?

the battle against evil.

The battle between good and evil is being waged in the soul of each person. Native American Indian legend has that it will be determined by which wolf we feed. I believe them.

They definitely have a point there.

I have always believed that every person lives his life as the white flag in the middle of a tug-of-war between the good and evil in his own nature. Sometimes he is pulled a little more one way, sometimes more the other. Most people never move too terribly far from center, where they can still be pulled back the other way. Some go so far one way or the other that it's unlikely they will ever move back, and become either those we view as saintly moral leaders or those we view as demons in human form.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Seriously, dude? You want to criticize and nitpick others' educations, and you can't even manage the basic reading comprehension necessary to follow a conversation and figure out that "they" refers to the people in YOUR post to which kwc was responding? Hoo boy. God save me from ignoramuses believing they are intellectuals.

You should put me on ignore as too stupid to have a conversation.

You probably are, but unfortunately for you, you don't get to escape that easily.

If you can't deal with having your opinions challenged, snowflake, I'd advise you not to express them where others can hear them.

Meanwhile, if you're going to insist on public exposure of your ignorance, at least try to fake a passing familiarity with English, please.