Can we just stop with all the "Republicans hate Obama because he's black" bullshit

[thereisnospoon]

Republicans have opposed EVERY democrat president, staunchly even.

Has everyone forgotten the "vast rightwing conspiracy" Hillary propagated? Have you forgotten Clintons impeachment? Have you forgotten Limbaughs proclomation of America being "held hostage" from the beginning of Clintons term?
Unless I'm color blind Clinton is WHITE. The gop simply oppose the liberal agenda. Even when Clinton swung back towards the center he was still the target of the right.
Claiming all this crap is race related just shows your inability to form a coherent argument to promote your positions.

No way. It's all the democrats and the Obama followers have as a fallback position.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Republicans have opposed EVERY democrat president, staunchly even.

Has everyone forgotten the "vast rightwing conspiracy" Hillary propagated? Have you forgotten Clintons impeachment? Have you forgotten Limbaughs proclomation of America being "held hostage" from the beginning of Clintons term?
Unless I'm color blind Clinton is WHITE. The gop simply oppose the liberal agenda. Even when Clinton swung back towards the center he was still the target of the right.
Claiming all this crap is race related just shows your inability to form a coherent argument to promote your positions.

No one hates Obama because he's black. Nope. I feel so much better for having said that now.

So how does it feel to be an Obama lemming?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Republicans hate government no matter what it does. Governments all over the world invest in their countries from infrastructure to destroyer aid.

Republicans wish to weaken America.

No.
We don't hate government. We despise wasteful and intrusive government.

 

[hangover]

Republicans hate government no matter what it does. Governments all over the world invest in their countries from infrastructure to destroyer aid.

Republicans wish to weaken America.

No.
We don't hate government. We despise wasteful and intrusive government.

BWAH HA HA!!! Tell us all about how you objected to the $3 trillion wasted on Iraq. Tell us how you don't like government telling people who they can marry. Tell us how you hate women being forced to have children they can't afford.
You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

 

[edthecynic]

7 trillion of that debt belongs to obama, when he leaves it will be over 20 trillion, he will have added more debt than all previous presidents combined.

how can you ***** about the debt and support obama? is it hypocrisy or stupidity?

Bullshit!

Bush's last fiscal year ended with $11.9 trillion in debt. 100% of that $12 trillion came from 3 GOP presidents, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. Then you have $2 trillion in interest on the GOP national debt the last 5 years, which you can't blame on Obama, which puts $14 trillion of the debt on the GOP without counting the continuing costs of Bush's 2 wars.

Nope, in January of 2009 the national debt was 10T, today its 17T. when obama leaves it will be over 20T. Obama will have doubled it in 8 years. Obama could have stopped the bleeding, but he did just the opposite and increased the debt celling at every opportunity---------and the stupid pubs let him get away with because they were scared of the left wing media.

as to "bush's wars" both parties in congress authorized and funded those wasteful fiascos. They were, and are, DC's wars.

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

 

[Redfish]

Bullshit!

Bush's last fiscal year ended with $11.9 trillion in debt. 100% of that $12 trillion came from 3 GOP presidents, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. Then you have $2 trillion in interest on the GOP national debt the last 5 years, which you can't blame on Obama, which puts $14 trillion of the debt on the GOP without counting the continuing costs of Bush's 2 wars.

Nope, in January of 2009 the national debt was 10T, today its 17T. when obama leaves it will be over 20T. Obama will have doubled it in 8 years. Obama could have stopped the bleeding, but he did just the opposite and increased the debt celling at every opportunity---------and the stupid pubs let him get away with because they were scared of the left wing media.

as to "bush's wars" both parties in congress authorized and funded those wasteful fiascos. They were, and are, DC's wars.

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

Obama and his democrat controlled congress could have reduced the spending in the FY 09 budget--------------but they didn't.

the 7 trillion added to the debt in the last 5 years is his---no left wing spin will change that.

How many budget bills has obama signed in 5 years? How many has the house passed? How many has Reid refused to allow to reach the floor of the senate?

You are totally full of shit on this topic.

 

[Redfish]

Republicans hate government no matter what it does. Governments all over the world invest in their countries from infrastructure to destroyer aid.

Republicans wish to weaken America.

No.
We don't hate government. We despise wasteful and intrusive government.

BWAH HA HA!!! Tell us all about how you objected to the $3 trillion wasted on Iraq. Tell us how you don't like government telling people who they can marry. Tell us how you hate women being forced to have children they can't afford.
You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

Many many republicans objected to the waste that was Iraq, but you are geing dishonest again, both parties authorized and funded that fiasco.

abortion is murder, you can ignore that fact if you want but it remains a fact. If you are a woman who can't afford another child--------KEEP YOUR LEGS TOGETHER.

 

[HenryBHough]

To these women of a certain age race up to Their New Messiah, tear off His clothes and break out in song. Then, disappointed in what they didn't find, slink off into the gathering gloom crying softly.......

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lg4gGk53iY]Look for the Union Label 1978 ILGWU ad - YouTube[/ame]

 

[edthecynic]

Nope, in January of 2009 the national debt was 10T, today its 17T. when obama leaves it will be over 20T. Obama will have doubled it in 8 years. Obama could have stopped the bleeding, but he did just the opposite and increased the debt celling at every opportunity---------and the stupid pubs let him get away with because they were scared of the left wing media.

as to "bush's wars" both parties in congress authorized and funded those wasteful fiascos. They were, and are, DC's wars.

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

Obama and his democrat controlled congress could have reduced the spending in the FY 09 budget--------------but they didn't.

the 7 trillion added to the debt in the last 5 years is his---no left wing spin will change that.

How many budget bills has obama signed in 5 years? How many has the house passed? How many has Reid refused to allow to reach the floor of the senate?

You are totally full of shit on this topic.

More bullshit. The Dems were powerless against the GOP filibuster power in the Senate and Bush's veto power in the White House.

For example, after the Dems took office in 2007 they tried to raise the minimum wage. Bush threatened a veto without tax cuts he wanted and the GOP filibustered it until the Bush tax cuts were added. Bush and the GOP were in complete control of all the spending and revenue right to the end of his last fiscal year.

The GOP have always been big spenders and always pay for their spending with borrowing, The Dems are also big spenders but try to pay for their spending with taxes. The debt always rises most when the GOP are in power because they cut taxes and increase borrowing while spending like drunken Democrats. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

 

[editec]

Can we just stop with all the "Republicans hate Obama because he's black" bullshit

We could if it wasn't mostly true, yes.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Bullshit!

Bush's last fiscal year ended with $11.9 trillion in debt. 100% of that $12 trillion came from 3 GOP presidents, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. Then you have $2 trillion in interest on the GOP national debt the last 5 years, which you can't blame on Obama, which puts $14 trillion of the debt on the GOP without counting the continuing costs of Bush's 2 wars.

Nope, in January of 2009 the national debt was 10T, today its 17T. when obama leaves it will be over 20T. Obama will have doubled it in 8 years. Obama could have stopped the bleeding, but he did just the opposite and increased the debt celling at every opportunity---------and the stupid pubs let him get away with because they were scared of the left wing media.

as to "bush's wars" both parties in congress authorized and funded those wasteful fiascos. They were, and are, DC's wars.

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

LOL, no they don't. It took 42 presidents and roughly 230+ years to amass that much debt. It took Obama 5 years to accrue HALF of that amount.

Debt on September 30, 2009: $11,909,829,003,511.75

Debt as of today: $17,413,220,474,647.90

Moving it up 9 months does not change the fact that Obama has spent more money, and put us in more debt than Bush.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Nope, in January of 2009 the national debt was 10T, today its 17T. when obama leaves it will be over 20T. Obama will have doubled it in 8 years. Obama could have stopped the bleeding, but he did just the opposite and increased the debt celling at every opportunity---------and the stupid pubs let him get away with because they were scared of the left wing media.

as to "bush's wars" both parties in congress authorized and funded those wasteful fiascos. They were, and are, DC's wars.

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

LOL, no they don't. It took 42 presidents and roughly 230+ years to amass that much debt. It took Obama 5 years to accrue HALF of that amount.

Debt on September 30, 2009: $11,909,829,003,511.75

Debt as of today: $17,413,220,474,647.90

Moving it up 9 months does not change the fact that Obama has spent more money, and put us in more debt than Bush.

Current U.S. Federal Budget Deficit
How It Impacts the US Economy

For Fiscal Year 2014 (October 1, 2013 -September 30, 2014) the U.S. Federal budget deficit will be $280 billion. That's because U.S. government spending, budgeted at $3.318 trillion is higher than projected U.S. government revenue, only $3.034 trillion. This is the lowest deficit since the recession, and is tiny compared to the record budget deficit of $1.4 trillion set in FY 2009.

It's also lower than the President's budget, which projected a $744 billion deficit. The lower amount is because Congress cut small amounts of the discretionary budgets for most departments.

What Caused The Recent Massive Budget Deficits?:

Most people blame the deficits on the 2008 financial crisis. However, that's only half the real story. These huge deficits were a result of four factors, and only the first two were related to the recession.

First, the $787 billion economic stimulus package was launched by newly-elected President Obama in March 2009. It cut taxes, extended unemployment benefits, and funded public works projects to create jobs directly. This expansionary fiscal policy was needed to kick-start the economy out of recession, which it did in the second quarter of 2009.

Second, the recession reduced Federal income. As the economy tanked, so did tax revenues. Government income fell from its all-time record of $2.568 trillion in FY 2007 to $2.1 trillion in FY 2009. It still hadn't recovered by FY 2012, reaching only $2.45 trillion.

The third reason has more to do with the attacks on 9/11 than the recession. The War on Terror drove military spending to a pre-recession record of $671 billion in FY 2007. Despite declines in revenue from the recession, defense and security-related spending increased as follows:

FY 2008 - $686 billion.
FY 2009 - $808 billion.
FY 2010 - $851 billion.
FY 2011 - $847 billion.
FY 2012 - $810 billion.
FY 2013 - $780.7 billion.
FY 2014 - $793.2 billion.

The fourth reason is that mandatory spending has increased. Spending to pay benefits for Social Security, Medicare and other mandated programs has been more than $2 trillion a year since FY 2011. These payments consume most of the revenue in each year. They cannot be changed without an act of Congress. This is difficult to do politically, since any benefits that are cut will take money out of the pockets of current beneficiaries.(Source: U.S. Office of Management and Budget, FY 2014 Budget Summary Table S-12)

It is very easy to say - look ... Obama did it!

It is not as easy as that....

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nope, in January of 2009 the national debt was 10T, today its 17T. when obama leaves it will be over 20T. Obama will have doubled it in 8 years. Obama could have stopped the bleeding, but he did just the opposite and increased the debt celling at every opportunity---------and the stupid pubs let him get away with because they were scared of the left wing media.

as to "bush's wars" both parties in congress authorized and funded those wasteful fiascos. They were, and are, DC's wars.

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

LOL, no they don't. It took 42 presidents and roughly 230+ years to amass that much debt. It took Obama 5 years to accrue HALF of that amount.

Debt on September 30, 2009: $11,909,829,003,511.75

Debt as of today: $17,413,220,474,647.90

Moving it up 9 months does not change the fact that Obama has spent more money, and put us in more debt than Bush.

The president doesn't 'spend the money', that's absurd.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Republicans have opposed EVERY democrat president, staunchly even.

Has everyone forgotten the "vast rightwing conspiracy" Hillary propagated? Have you forgotten Clintons impeachment? Have you forgotten Limbaughs proclomation of America being "held hostage" from the beginning of Clintons term?
Unless I'm color blind Clinton is WHITE. The gop simply oppose the liberal agenda. Even when Clinton swung back towards the center he was still the target of the right.
Claiming all this crap is race related just shows your inability to form a coherent argument to promote your positions.

Why are you implying that the main defense of Obama is the race card? Can you prove that happens, for example, around here?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The actual fact here is that the 'because he's black' defense is more likely to be used by conservatives when a black conservative is criticized.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

LOL, no they don't. It took 42 presidents and roughly 230+ years to amass that much debt. It took Obama 5 years to accrue HALF of that amount.

Debt on September 30, 2009: $11,909,829,003,511.75

Debt as of today: $17,413,220,474,647.90

Moving it up 9 months does not change the fact that Obama has spent more money, and put us in more debt than Bush.

Current U.S. Federal Budget Deficit
How It Impacts the US Economy

For Fiscal Year 2014 (October 1, 2013 -September 30, 2014) the U.S. Federal budget deficit will be $280 billion. That's because U.S. government spending, budgeted at $3.318 trillion is higher than projected U.S. government revenue, only $3.034 trillion. This is the lowest deficit since the recession, and is tiny compared to the record budget deficit of $1.4 trillion set in FY 2009.

It's also lower than the President's budget, which projected a $744 billion deficit. The lower amount is because Congress cut small amounts of the discretionary budgets for most departments.

What Caused The Recent Massive Budget Deficits?:

Most people blame the deficits on the 2008 financial crisis. However, that's only half the real story. These huge deficits were a result of four factors, and only the first two were related to the recession.

First, the $787 billion economic stimulus package was launched by newly-elected President Obama in March 2009. It cut taxes, extended unemployment benefits, and funded public works projects to create jobs directly. This expansionary fiscal policy was needed to kick-start the economy out of recession, which it did in the second quarter of 2009.

Second, the recession reduced Federal income. As the economy tanked, so did tax revenues. Government income fell from its all-time record of $2.568 trillion in FY 2007 to $2.1 trillion in FY 2009. It still hadn't recovered by FY 2012, reaching only $2.45 trillion.

The third reason has more to do with the attacks on 9/11 than the recession. The War on Terror drove military spending to a pre-recession record of $671 billion in FY 2007. Despite declines in revenue from the recession, defense and security-related spending increased as follows:

FY 2008 - $686 billion.
FY 2009 - $808 billion.
FY 2010 - $851 billion.
FY 2011 - $847 billion.
FY 2012 - $810 billion.
FY 2013 - $780.7 billion.
FY 2014 - $793.2 billion.

The fourth reason is that mandatory spending has increased. Spending to pay benefits for Social Security, Medicare and other mandated programs has been more than $2 trillion a year since FY 2011. These payments consume most of the revenue in each year. They cannot be changed without an act of Congress. This is difficult to do politically, since any benefits that are cut will take money out of the pockets of current beneficiaries.(Source: U.S. Office of Management and Budget, FY 2014 Budget Summary Table S-12)

It is very easy to say - look ... Obama did it!

It is not as easy as that....

Okay, so Bush did it? You're kidding right? Bush poured the gas, Obama lit the match. Simple.

But wait!

The facts about the growth of spending under Obama, Part 3 - The Washington Post

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh and ummmm......ahemmm. FED popping monopoly money into the system for many months at 80 billion a pop.



And behind door #3????



The left will hammer you with bogus statistics until the cows come home......taking bows on THIS >>>>


FY 2008 - $686 billion.
FY 2009 - $808 billion.
FY 2010 - $851 billion.
FY 2011 - $847 billion.
FY 2012 - $810 billion.
FY 2013 - $780.7 billion.
FY 2014 - $793.2 billion.







Bush was a drunken sailor with spending. Obama has the whole ship bombed.

 

[rightwinger]

LOL, no they don't. It took 42 presidents and roughly 230+ years to amass that much debt. It took Obama 5 years to accrue HALF of that amount.

Debt on September 30, 2009: $11,909,829,003,511.75

Debt as of today: $17,413,220,474,647.90

Moving it up 9 months does not change the fact that Obama has spent more money, and put us in more debt than Bush.

Current U.S. Federal Budget Deficit
How It Impacts the US Economy

For Fiscal Year 2014 (October 1, 2013 -September 30, 2014) the U.S. Federal budget deficit will be $280 billion. That's because U.S. government spending, budgeted at $3.318 trillion is higher than projected U.S. government revenue, only $3.034 trillion. This is the lowest deficit since the recession, and is tiny compared to the record budget deficit of $1.4 trillion set in FY 2009.

It's also lower than the President's budget, which projected a $744 billion deficit. The lower amount is because Congress cut small amounts of the discretionary budgets for most departments.

What Caused The Recent Massive Budget Deficits?:

Most people blame the deficits on the 2008 financial crisis. However, that's only half the real story. These huge deficits were a result of four factors, and only the first two were related to the recession.

First, the $787 billion economic stimulus package was launched by newly-elected President Obama in March 2009. It cut taxes, extended unemployment benefits, and funded public works projects to create jobs directly. This expansionary fiscal policy was needed to kick-start the economy out of recession, which it did in the second quarter of 2009.

Second, the recession reduced Federal income. As the economy tanked, so did tax revenues. Government income fell from its all-time record of $2.568 trillion in FY 2007 to $2.1 trillion in FY 2009. It still hadn't recovered by FY 2012, reaching only $2.45 trillion.

The third reason has more to do with the attacks on 9/11 than the recession. The War on Terror drove military spending to a pre-recession record of $671 billion in FY 2007. Despite declines in revenue from the recession, defense and security-related spending increased as follows:

FY 2008 - $686 billion.
FY 2009 - $808 billion.
FY 2010 - $851 billion.
FY 2011 - $847 billion.
FY 2012 - $810 billion.
FY 2013 - $780.7 billion.
FY 2014 - $793.2 billion.

The fourth reason is that mandatory spending has increased. Spending to pay benefits for Social Security, Medicare and other mandated programs has been more than $2 trillion a year since FY 2011. These payments consume most of the revenue in each year. They cannot be changed without an act of Congress. This is difficult to do politically, since any benefits that are cut will take money out of the pockets of current beneficiaries.(Source: U.S. Office of Management and Budget, FY 2014 Budget Summary Table S-12)

It is very easy to say - look ... Obama did it!

It is not as easy as that....

Okay, so Bush did it? You're kidding right? Bush poured the gas, Obama lit the match. Simple.

But wait!

The facts about the growth of spending under Obama, Part 3 - The Washington Post

More like Bush left a raging fire and Republicans blocked Obama from using the hose

 

[dblack]

Republicans have opposed EVERY democrat president, staunchly even.

Has everyone forgotten the "vast rightwing conspiracy" Hillary propagated? Have you forgotten Clintons impeachment? Have you forgotten Limbaughs proclomation of America being "held hostage" from the beginning of Clintons term?
Unless I'm color blind Clinton is WHITE. The gop simply oppose the liberal agenda. Even when Clinton swung back towards the center he was still the target of the right.
Claiming all this crap is race related just shows your inability to form a coherent argument to promote your positions.

Agreed. If Obama was Republican, they'd love him. Because he's black.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nope, in January of 2009 the national debt was 10T, today its 17T. when obama leaves it will be over 20T. Obama will have doubled it in 8 years. Obama could have stopped the bleeding, but he did just the opposite and increased the debt celling at every opportunity---------and the stupid pubs let him get away with because they were scared of the left wing media.

as to "bush's wars" both parties in congress authorized and funded those wasteful fiascos. They were, and are, DC's wars.

The fiscal year does not end in January. You are a typical low information voter. The GOP own at least $14 trillion of the GOP national debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

LOL, no they don't. It took 42 presidents and roughly 230+ years to amass that much debt. It took Obama 5 years to accrue HALF of that amount.

Debt on September 30, 2009: $11,909,829,003,511.75

Debt as of today: $17,413,220,474,647.90

Moving it up 9 months does not change the fact that Obama has spent more money, and put us in more debt than Bush.

Obama 'spends' about 250 billion a year on interest on the debt. That's every president's debt not just his.

The entire annual expenditure of the budgets of previous presidents did not even exceed 250 billion per year until 1974.