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I can't argue.Every President alive supported NAFTA. They all showed up to offer support for Free Trade. And we have displaced millions of workers over time as a result, and lowered wage standards as a result.I'm not an isolationist but free trade is inevitable. In the future there won't be poor nations I hope. They will unionize.Doubtful. We can buy tacos here already.Maybe like my grandparents picked up and moved here from greece one day you'll be sneaking across the border into mexico.Free Trade agreements help poor countries and hurt modern countries. In their mission statements they say that their goals are to end world poverty. The only way for that to happen is for the poor countries wage standards to eventually go up, while the modern countries wage standards go down. Meeting in equallibrium somewhere down the road.....................
Meaning we get the shaft, while Mexico gets the boom.
There is no doubt that are manufacturing jobs in this country have been severely hurt by these deals.
It is lowering our jobs, and hurting the American worker so big business can haul ass and take advantage of cheap labor and sell the products back here..............And they continue to do so as more and more jobs migrate to the 3rd World.
TPP is NAFTA on Steroids....................and guarantees we get fucked again.
Your point............................Are you for or against Free Trade and the loss of jobs that go with it....................But hey man, we get Chinese crap stuff for cheap now. ECONOMICS 101........it's basic............how are you going to spend all that extra money on cheaper goods man................So says the ones pushing for it............as they ignore the lost jobs in this country. Are you one of those people...........
You make a good point. We already buy our shit from china. Now you are complaining? Who'd you vote for in 1988? Cause the GOP and bush 1 made NAFTA. Clinton just signed it.
Every country protected their vital industries except America why? Because American workers make too much.
I'm very aware the GOP supports Free trade agreements....................and I've NEVER BEEN ON BOARD with them. I've argued against it since NAFTA.
It's NOT ALL FREE TRADE...........The term is BS under the WTO as tariffs still apply under the WTO. Countries like China hose us over by using taxes like the VAT, to substitute for tariffs.................and use currency manipulation to increase their exports.........not to mention the disputes with subsidizing their products that get sold over here..........and the WTO pretty much lets them get away with it. Given their FAVORED STATUS on the WTO rules for tariffs on products.
aka they are fucking us and we don't even get a reach around. In the past we dealt directly with them and other countries and didn't use foreign entities to decide our fate on trade..................and when unfair policies came up we threw up walls to make them come to the table over trade.