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I can't say for sure about your attitude Eric, but I can say that if you aren't anxiously waiting to hear of the mentioned failure, you are the exception.I don't look forward to that day. Why do you? In order to gain petty partisan satisfaction, looks like.
Pathetically petty and dangerously sad.
You lack any understanding and you firmly demonstrate that you are completely incapable of any understanding.Pen, you can't be that blind. We have prisons for a reason. And most do not find God there.
Here, think of this girl as your daughter. Her name was Karla. She was raped and testified against her attacker. He was found guilty. They let him out of prison because they didn't want him to catch a virus. He blew her away outside of her apartment. I bet you'd give anything to have her back.
Pen, was it a wise decision to put the attacker back on the streets?
You lack any understanding and you firmly demonstrate that you are completely incapable of any understanding
I'm sure news of the many failures of turning animals back into society will happen.I can't say for sure about your attitude Eric, but I can say that if you aren't anxiously waiting to hear of the mentioned failure, you are the exception.
There's no evidence of any understanding in American minds over what California is trying to do.
America's justice system and prison system failures aren't being denied here. And attempts at reform or improvement shouldn't be quickly condemned as being wrongheaded.
I'm sure news of the many failures of turning animals back into society will happen.I can't say for sure about your attitude Eric, but I can say that if you aren't anxiously waiting to hear of the mentioned failure, you are the exception.
There's no evidence of any understanding in American minds over what California is trying to do.
America's justice system and prison system failures aren't being denied here. And attempts at reform or improvement shouldn't be quickly condemned as being wrongheaded.
Can't say I look forward to it or am eager for that to happen.
It just will. That's all.
You don't understand and you're not trying to understand. Would you like to try?You lack any understanding and you firmly demonstrate that you are completely incapable of any understanding
I understand what a bad idea it was to let that man out of prison. He raped her. Can you imagine her horror at stepping out of her car and seeing the man who she thought was safely locked away from her? Holding a gun, which was against the law for him to have, and the bullets hitting her and hitting her? What a nightmare death.
He had been found guilty of these crimes:
Bouaichi was charged with six felonies — rape, sodomy, strangulation, abduction, burglary and malicious wounding. But they released him because they were worried he might catch a virus. And he promised the judge he'd be a good boy and never miss church on Sunday.
No, America's system has made release necessary and so it's now a part of reform. Norway's system where prisoners are provide their own adequate living space is the example of a successful system in which release doesn't need to be considered for questionable cases.Reform all you want. Reform and release are two completely different things.
Make prisons safer....
to hell with the citizens
The dangers in their prisons are due to their failed prison system. crowded and overflowing and not serving to prevent recidivism. Just the opposite.First of all, I do believe that some sentences are not in the best interest of a nation, that isn't the issue. The issue is sending them out due to dangers in prison but not outside of prison.
I have been outspoken on how I believe the "three strikes you're out" is horrible policy in my opinion (I'm not American, I can only provide my own, best judgement and honesty to the debate, I'm not here to tell them "you must be like _____"). Morally, economically and security-wise, I think it's lazy, poorly directed policy.
You choose to not criticize them for their failures, but I do. If that's what you consider to be poor policy then that can be your opinion. I'll stay with mine. However I have to say that it's not clear what you are claiming as being poor policy.
Also, as someone who was targeted at a young age for simply being born in the wrong neighbourhood and to provide a career for some filthy covert dogs and their low performing lineage, I understand the abuses covert police engages in, in Canada. They all deserve their place in hell, you won't see me apologize for them,
You obviously have a chip on your shoulder and that's led you to attempting to compare Canad's police with America's. That's a bridge too far. That's not saying that Canada's police are immune to corruption. I have myself experienced and been the victim of bad policing but it didn't cause me to keep a chip on my shoulder for the rest of my life. However, your experience that you suffer from must have been more egregious than mine. Mine resulted in an impression that 'one' mountie was somewhat bad, as opposed to the entire RCMP.
THAT is "justice" as a Canadian.No charges, no allegations, no criminal record or prison time, in fact, no crime (but boy do some of us know about crimes the police themselves engaged in). In return for the filthy animals in Canada having a career and stealing from the taxpayer, my life was stolen perpetually.
That comes off as a rant with little meaning.
So, if you are a Canadian (maybe you're not), you better have an opinion about our creepy covert police of the TPS, OPP and RCMP. Our nation would be better off if we had Rule of law, transparency and accountability of policing rather than covert, unaccountable, East German creepy activities.
That's all about the chip on your shoulder. What is that all about?
There could be a rational conversation between us on Canada's policing as compared to America's. Especially starting with police murder of Americans on the streets, in cold blood.
Canadian police have destroyed our reputation, our young and our economy. So...maybe bite your lip on your "holier than thou" position, unless you wish to have the real debate about Canada vs. U.S on the issue of justice.
I welcome the debate. But I do because I'm curious about the reason for the 'chip'. Aside from that personal aspect, some examples of Canada's bad policing would be useful for making comparisons.
I can be two things at the same time, in support of more reasonable sentencing anywhere, but also quite offended by creepy, dishonest, life altering covet actions in Canada.
Your reference to 'covert' actions by Canada's police isn't specific and so I'll neither acknowledge or deny.
You should be too, if this is really the issue you care about.
The issue I care about here in this discussion is America's failure of it's justice system and it's prison system. But I'll take the time to hear you out on your grievances over Canada's.
Fwiw, I have a good friend who is a retired mountie. His attitude toward law enforcement is quite out of step with mine, but I would suspect could be consistent with yours. That is judging from your attitude of seeing little fault in the US system and your attempts to compare their mess to Canada's policing.
The last time that I checked, prison was never supposed to be like Buckingham Palace.Just another indication that Democrats put criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens....
Why am I not surprised????
California releasing 63,000 violent felons back onto the streets in effort to create 'safer prisons' (msn.com)
California is set to release at least 63,000 inmates convicted of violent crimes in an effort to create “safer prisons.”
Of those who are set to be released, nearly 20,000 are serving life sentences. Another 10,000 inmates were convicted for serious nonviolent offenses who have served half of their initial sentence.
I've got 3 45-70 rounds I'll let you have for 34.00.I guess i need to purchase a few more rounds of ammo.Just another indication that Democrats put criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens....
Why am I not surprised????
California releasing 63,000 violent felons back onto the streets in effort to create 'safer prisons' (msn.com)
California is set to release at least 63,000 inmates convicted of violent crimes in an effort to create “safer prisons.”
Of those who are set to be released, nearly 20,000 are serving life sentences. Another 10,000 inmates were convicted for serious nonviolent offenses who have served half of their initial sentence.
California won't let you have a gun, especially not for self protectionWell that is going to raise the murder stats assuming that the dems just don't redefine them as well. Everyone needs to buy a gun for self protection-----------Just another indication that Democrats put criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens....
Why am I not surprised????
California releasing 63,000 violent felons back onto the streets in effort to create 'safer prisons' (msn.com)
California is set to release at least 63,000 inmates convicted of violent crimes in an effort to create “safer prisons.”
Of those who are set to be released, nearly 20,000 are serving life sentences. Another 10,000 inmates were convicted for serious nonviolent offenses who have served half of their initial sentence.
I got a shit load of them.California won't let you have a gun, especially not for self protectionWell that is going to raise the murder stats assuming that the dems just don't redefine them as well. Everyone needs to buy a gun for self protection-----------Just another indication that Democrats put criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens....
Why am I not surprised????
California releasing 63,000 violent felons back onto the streets in effort to create 'safer prisons' (msn.com)
California is set to release at least 63,000 inmates convicted of violent crimes in an effort to create “safer prisons.”
Of those who are set to be released, nearly 20,000 are serving life sentences. Another 10,000 inmates were convicted for serious nonviolent offenses who have served half of their initial sentence.
Covert? You'll have to explain what you're complaining about?It's not a chip on my shoulder as opposed to anger, disappointment and frustration regarding the creepy covert system that Canada employs with full support by their shills and weak politicians. We are closer to the old Soviet system than a justice system based on basic premises.
They would have been in the U.S if they didn't resign first.
THAT is what other nations know of Canada.
Mark Saunders, Bill Blair, Julien Fantino, Jennifer Evans, Zaccardelli, Bob Paulson, Paul Martin (the police chief). The list of former police chiefs is quite lengthy, maybe there are a few public scandals or two that might interest our allies.
Google is the friend of Americans and European allies, they can do their own searching and compiling. Let them compare their systems to Canadas and then you can tell us where Canada stands in terms of civil liberties and human rights.
I've often said, the reason Canadian judges are often lenient in sentencing, isn't because they want to see a return to crime, but often because they have enough experience to know when policing methods and actors are full of shyte, or outright criminals themselves.
Since we don't enjoy the character of legitimate accountability for these officers from politicians or law (the Ontario Police Services Act is an insult to humane nations), our judges have to play the administrator of policing the police. Being less harsh on the accused when they know the Dirty Trick campaigns engaged in by Covert Canadian Police (CCP for short) are very real.
Perata is that you?I got a shit load of them.California won't let you have a gun, especially not for self protectionWell that is going to raise the murder stats assuming that the dems just don't redefine them as well. Everyone needs to buy a gun for self protection-----------Just another indication that Democrats put criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens....
Why am I not surprised????
California releasing 63,000 violent felons back onto the streets in effort to create 'safer prisons' (msn.com)
California is set to release at least 63,000 inmates convicted of violent crimes in an effort to create “safer prisons.”
Of those who are set to be released, nearly 20,000 are serving life sentences. Another 10,000 inmates were convicted for serious nonviolent offenses who have served half of their initial sentence.
Just another indication that Democrats put criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens....
Why am I not surprised????
California releasing 63,000 violent felons back onto the streets in effort to create 'safer prisons' (msn.com)
California is set to release at least 63,000 inmates convicted of violent crimes in an effort to create “safer prisons.”
Of those who are set to be released, nearly 20,000 are serving life sentences. Another 10,000 inmates were convicted for serious nonviolent offenses who have served half of their initial sentence.
