California moves to become sanctuary state

[danielpalos]

All refugees and illegals should head at once to California.
We should start a campaign to make all refugees around the world, and anyone else trying to sneak into the country, that California is the place you want to be!

Let California put it's money where it's mouth is.

California ended our drug war. we expect around a billion in revenue.

 

[EverCurious]

Silhouette to be fair California might as well just re-write their entire constitution every election the way they do it, every damn cycle amends it. The whole "The US Constitution is a living document" idea spawns from California's flippant [dis]regard for their own state constitution.

usually, it is rich guys dissatisfied with politics; and prefer to create some political rules themselves.

You mean politicians right? heh

 

[Silhouette]

All refugees and illegals should head at once to California.
We should start a campaign to make all refugees around the world, and anyone else trying to sneak into the country, that California is the place you want to be!

Let California put it's money where it's mouth is.

California ended our drug war. we expect around a billion in revenue.

Selling snow cones to Eskimos eh? How many states have legalized pot now? 6? 8? And as more do, how is it CA plans on trading with them at such hugely inflated prices? You've taken basic economics on supply and demand right? With wages at below $15/hour, what's your assurance that in the 8 states referenced that not every man woman and child will be churning out pot into giant warehouses backlogged for years as the market slows to a crawl? CA would be better off starting chicken farms because eggs are getting darned expensive these days and chicken farms much harder to come by.

CA will sink into the sea fiscally before the earthquake ever makes her. The people running that state are STUPID. Pretty faces and flair that apparently not one of them passed basic elementary school math and Jr. High economics. They COULD start producing solar linear fresnel thermal energy and tapping that big pool of oil just under the Central Valley as a hybrid source of power they could sell to other states. And using the same technology to distill fresh water from ocean water to sell....But that would make sense so, scratch that off the list.

 

[danielpalos]

Silhouette to be fair California might as well just re-write their entire constitution every election the way they do it, every damn cycle amends it. The whole "The US Constitution is a living document" idea spawns from California's flippant [dis]regard for their own state constitution.

usually, it is rich guys dissatisfied with politics; and prefer to create some political rules themselves.

You mean politicians right? heh

now, i guess; but, usually it is just guy's with gold who want some new rules.

 

[EverCurious]

danielpalos I disagree, it is /always/ politicians, they're total scum. Seriously it's the only profession in the world where lying to your employer's is the 'standard' - Shit even lawyers come straight to their employers (their client.)

Politicians are on par with drug dealers - they'll tell you anything it takes to keep you buying the shit they're selling...

 

[danielpalos]

All refugees and illegals should head at once to California.
We should start a campaign to make all refugees around the world, and anyone else trying to sneak into the country, that California is the place you want to be!

Let California put it's money where it's mouth is.

California ended our drug war. we expect around a billion in revenue.

Selling snow cones to Eskimos eh? How many states have legalized pot now? 6? 8? And as more do, how is it CA plans on trading with them at such hugely inflated prices? You've taken basic economics on supply and demand right? With wages at below $15/hour, what's your assurance that in the 8 states referenced that not every man woman and child will be churning out pot into giant warehouses backlogged for years as the market slows to a crawl? CA would be better off starting chicken farms because eggs are getting darned expensive these days and chicken farms much harder to come by.

CA will sink into the sea fiscally before the earthquake ever makes her. The people running that state are STUPID. Pretty faces and flair that apparently not one of them passed basic elementary school math and Jr. High economics. They COULD start producing solar linear fresnel thermal energy and tapping that big pool of oil just under the Central Valley as a hybrid source of power they could sell to other states. And using the same technology to distill fresh water from ocean water to sell....But that would make sense so, scratch that off the list.

A stock exchange which may include, "straddling options", capability.

 

[danielpalos]

danielpalos I disagree, it is /always/ politicians, they're total scum. Seriously it's the only profession in the world where lying to your employer's is the 'standard' - Shit even lawyers come straight to their employers (their client.)

Politicians are on par with drug dealers - they'll tell you anything it takes to keep you buying the shit they're selling...

I can understand where you are coming from.

However, conflicts of interest are already being advanced.

 

[EverCurious]

"Conflicts of interest are already being advanced"? More info plox.

 

[danielpalos]

"Conflicts of interest are already being advanced"? More info plox.

The web of President Donald Trump’s conflicts of interest has grown to encompass the American Red Cross, which will be hosting its annual ball on Saturday, February 4, at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida. By hosting the ball, the Trump Organization will be accepting money from an organization that, while not a federal agency per se, is subject to federal oversight that at some point in the next four years will likely involve President Trump.--https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interests/508382/

 

[EverCurious]

Except the reality that President Trump has zero influence nor knowledge of what any of the businesses he had are doing. He signed away /everything/, and shut down every single deal in the works when he took office. There are clauses specifically written in remove him /completely/ - to include from discussion about what the businesses are doing, or are thinking of doing. He hired on an outside advisor specifically to steer clear of /any/ impropriety or collusion between President Trump and his /son's/ businesses.

You people do not even understand what this man did for you, for this nation. The world and history will look back on all of you lefties as the ungrateful spoiled idiot children you are acting like. I can only hope that our children and grandchildren see the terrible lesson of what happens when you let emotions sans logic take over a nation.

 

[danielpalos]

Except the reality that President Trump has zero influence nor knowledge of what any of the businesses he had are doing. He signed away /everything/, and shut down every single deal in the works when he took office. There are clauses specifically written in remove him /completely/ - to include from discussion about what the businesses are doing, or are thinking of doing. He hired on an outside advisor specifically to steer clear of /any/ impropriety or collusion between President Trump and his /son's/ businesses.

You people do not even understand what this man did for you, for this nation. The world and history will look back on all of you lefties as the ungrateful spoiled idiot children you are acting like. I can only hope that our children and grandchildren see the terrible lesson of what happens when you let emotions sans logic take over a nation.

that is just one instance.

 

[EverCurious]

What part of President Trump doesn't have any businesses nor business interest are you not understanding?

 

[MindWars]

Unlike Obama, President Trump is not trying to making new laws by executive decree. In his Executive Order, the president is only reminding mayors and governors of existing federal law dating to 1996:

U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part IX › § 1373
8 U.S. Code § 1373 – Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service:

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entitiesNotwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.
(Pub. L. 104–208, div. C, title VI, § 642, Sept. 30, 1996, 110 Stat. 3009–707.

The president’s executive order is not only good news for law enforcement, it is also a good civics lesson for some mayors and even some members of Congress.

• The mayor of Denver last week said in the same breath that Denver is not a sanctuary city but it will continue to defy federal immigration law.
• Congressman Michael Coffman, whose district office is located in Aurora, Colorado,

Tancredo: Over 300 Sanctuary Cities Are Costing State and Local Taxpayers over $7,000,000,000 Annually - Breitbart

Our federales have no police power over the several, United States.

ONCE THIS HAPPENS YOUR STATE IS GOING TO TANK FASTER THAN AN EARTHQUAKE TAKING IT OUT......

This bill would, among other things, prohibit state and local law enforcement agencies and school police and security departments from using resources to investigate, interrogate, detain, detect, report, or arrest persons for immigration enforcement purposes, or to investigate, enforce, or assist in the investigation or enforcement of any federal program requiring registration of individuals on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or national or ethnic origin, as specified. The bill would require require, within 6 months after the effective date of the bill, state agencies to review their confidentiality policies and identify any changes necessary to ensure that information collected from individuals is limited to that necessary to perform agency duties and is not used or disclosed for any other purpose, as specified. The bill would require public schools, hospitals, and courthouses to establish and make public policies that limit immigration enforcement on their premises and The bill would requirerequire, within 3 months after the effective date of the bill, the Attorney General, in consultation with appropriate stakeholders, to publish model policies for use by those entities for those purposes. The bill would also require, within 3 months after the effective date of the bill, the Attorney General to publish model contractual provisions for all state agencies that partner with private vendors for data collection purposes to ensure that those vendors comply with the confidentiality policies, as specified. The bill would require all public schools, health facilities operated by the state or a political subdivision of the state, courthouses, and shelters to implement the model policy, or an equivalent policy. The bill would state that all other organizations and entities that provide services related to physical or mental health and wellness, education, or access to justice, including the University of California, are encouraged to adopt the model policy.
Bill Text - SB-54 Law enforcement: sharing data.

FROM this article :

BILL 54: CALIFORNIA TO BECOME SANCTUARY STATE, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT BARRED FROM SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS

Bill 54: California To Become Sanctuary State, All Law Enforcement Barred From Schools And Hospitals - Conservative Daily Post

 

[MindWars]

THIS IS FROM 2014----------------------- JUST THINK ABOUT WHERE IT IS AT TODAY TRUMP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

 

[Silhouette]

BILL 54: CALIFORNIA TO BECOME SANCTUARY STATE, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT BARRED FROM SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS

Bill 54: California To Become Sanctuary State, All Law Enforcement Barred From Schools And Hospitals - Conservative Daily Post

No, such an initiative that affects the entire state must be ratified by the people in a vote during the next election cycle...or a special election cycle. This is not within unilateral power of the legislature in CA. Upon that fact alone this bluff will be defeated in the higher courts for sure.

Anyone keen on stopping CA Legislature from doing this need only read Article 2 of the California Constitution. (which was taken offline at the official website recently...for some strange reason...lol...) Such an act taken by the legislature that will affect the state fiscally to a huge degree, without the state voters' permission is treason by definition of Article 2.. Lawyers need to get on this now. An oligarchy with the help of judicial activists has been steadily and insidiously and illegally taking power away from the People of California. It needs to stop. Lawyers need to get on this and get on it hard...NOW. That state is literally teetering on the brink of complete fascism. That real estate is too valuable to the US to abdicate to what has nearly become a totalitarian regime.

The CA Legislature and their pal Gerry Brown fancy themselves as more powerful than the People. The initiative system was put in place by the voters there for the purpose of limiting (not expanding) the power of the Legislature above the simple direct consent of the People. This act would be an unprecedented expansion of power not allowed by the intent of the initiative system.

 

[danielpalos]

What part of President Trump doesn't have any businesses nor business interest are you not understanding?

just right wing reading incomprehension, dear?

...is subject to federal oversight that at some point in the next four years will likely involve President Trump....

 

[danielpalos]

Unlike Obama, President Trump is not trying to making new laws by executive decree. In his Executive Order, the president is only reminding mayors and governors of existing federal law dating to 1996:

U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part IX › § 1373
8 U.S. Code § 1373 – Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service:

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entitiesNotwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.
(Pub. L. 104–208, div. C, title VI, § 642, Sept. 30, 1996, 110 Stat. 3009–707.

The president’s executive order is not only good news for law enforcement, it is also a good civics lesson for some mayors and even some members of Congress.

• The mayor of Denver last week said in the same breath that Denver is not a sanctuary city but it will continue to defy federal immigration law.
• Congressman Michael Coffman, whose district office is located in Aurora, Colorado,

Tancredo: Over 300 Sanctuary Cities Are Costing State and Local Taxpayers over $7,000,000,000 Annually - Breitbart

Our federales have no police power over the several, United States.

ONCE THIS HAPPENS YOUR STATE IS GOING TO TANK FASTER THAN AN EARTHQUAKE TAKING IT OUT......

This bill would, among other things, prohibit state and local law enforcement agencies and school police and security departments from using resources to investigate, interrogate, detain, detect, report, or arrest persons for immigration enforcement purposes, or to investigate, enforce, or assist in the investigation or enforcement of any federal program requiring registration of individuals on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or national or ethnic origin, as specified. The bill would require require, within 6 months after the effective date of the bill, state agencies to review their confidentiality policies and identify any changes necessary to ensure that information collected from individuals is limited to that necessary to perform agency duties and is not used or disclosed for any other purpose, as specified. The bill would require public schools, hospitals, and courthouses to establish and make public policies that limit immigration enforcement on their premises and The bill would requirerequire, within 3 months after the effective date of the bill, the Attorney General, in consultation with appropriate stakeholders, to publish model policies for use by those entities for those purposes. The bill would also require, within 3 months after the effective date of the bill, the Attorney General to publish model contractual provisions for all state agencies that partner with private vendors for data collection purposes to ensure that those vendors comply with the confidentiality policies, as specified. The bill would require all public schools, health facilities operated by the state or a political subdivision of the state, courthouses, and shelters to implement the model policy, or an equivalent policy. The bill would state that all other organizations and entities that provide services related to physical or mental health and wellness, education, or access to justice, including the University of California, are encouraged to adopt the model policy.
Bill Text - SB-54 Law enforcement: sharing data.

FROM this article :

BILL 54: CALIFORNIA TO BECOME SANCTUARY STATE, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT BARRED FROM SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS

Bill 54: California To Become Sanctuary State, All Law Enforcement Barred From Schools And Hospitals - Conservative Daily Post

we recently legalized pot, for just this contingency.

 

[danielpalos]

THIS IS FROM 2014----------------------- JUST THINK ABOUT WHERE IT IS AT TODAY TRUMP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

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Mexico is currently our 3rd largest goods trading partner with $531 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2015. Goods exports totaled $236 billion; goods imports totaled $295 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015.--https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

Can we see the methodology that accounts for that data?

 

[EverCurious]

What part of President Trump doesn't have any businesses nor business interest are you not understanding?

just right wing reading incomprehension, dear?

...is subject to federal oversight that at some point in the next four years will likely involve President Trump....

I'm quite sure you are the one with a reading comprehension problem here.

Trump has /NO BUSINESSES/ and therefore there is no conflict of interest with the Red Cross, nor anything else. There are /NO BUSINESSES/ to cause a conflict of interest with. He has /NO BUSINESSES/ at all.

 

[Slashsnake]

Democrats would lose every election going forward if this were to happen. 38 million idiots in one state gone.