California Businesses Moving

[Lonestar_logic]

So, let me ask you this. Our new GOP Governor in Virginia, Bob McDonnell, rolled out a plan for corporate socialism in hopes of attracting businesses to VA. NO taxes, sweet government backed loans, etc. Would you blame CA or VA for a company who chose to relocate here?

Link?

McDonnell for Governor | Press Releases | McDonnell and Bolling Announce Job Initiatives

Well I see no mention of "no taxes". So I reckon you just pulled that out of your ass.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Link please.

you dont need a link....i read about companies moving everyday while looking at the morning paper.....just this week 9 more leaving OC... 6 to Colorado....the politicians in California dont give a shit....they help them pack....and that big asshole Arnie,who campaigned about how bad this was.....does not even talk about it anymore....but the people who are going with the companies are happy....they get to leave this place,and relocate,with a job....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I did a spot check....did you know that "expanding" to other states is not the same as moving? Just sayin'.

they are leaving Bo....most of them anyway....but go ahead....treat it like the politicians of this State do...

 

[WillowTree]

I did a spot check....did you know that "expanding" to other states is not the same as moving? Just sayin'.

they are leaving Bo....most of them anyway....but go ahead....treat it like the politicians of this State do...

that's pretty sad Harry. Where does California expect to get revenue from? Will there be enough rich people left to cover the expenses?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Never mind Fyrenza.. you'll find that a common tactic of the libturds here. they demand a link then scoff at what you provide. once you provide a link they don't like it's up to them to move on and either find a link they like or find a link that disputes your claims. you are under no obligation to jump through libturd hoops. btw.. thanks for the information. looks like Arizona is the destination of many exiting californicator business.. Hooray for Arizona.

I just thought this link would be a tad helpful if anyone 'missed the boat' and prefered seeing the 'linkies' with topics.

The PREMISE of the BLOG author and apparently the OP, is that government is responsible for these businesses "leaving" CA. I am still waiting for the linkies that prove that. Did I overlook one?

its called taxing the fuck out of them and regulating the fuck out of them....2 years ago i was delivering to a business complex here in the Anaheim hills that had every building full...200 businesses....now there are 93 left and vacancies up the ass...a hell of a lot of their change of add forms were for OUT OF STATE....many...and i mean many was because of the aforementioned reasons...California is not a very business friendly State.....SMALL businesses find it very hard to survive here....big bus can handle it....but some of them have left also....

 

[boedicca]

Bailing out GM was a completely different kettle of fish.

The Govt went in and negated the contracts the shareholders and bondholders had and basically took over the company. The folks who had money invested in GM got screwed.

How legal was it?? Don't know but there are probably court cases pending on this bs.

If GM had been allowed to go bankrupt they could have restructured and renegotiated the contracts with providers, etc. They ended up in bakrupcy anyway and it cost we the taxpayers instead of the bond and shareholders.

Not socialism in my book. Just good old fashioned theft.

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Government sponsored looting is looting no matter what ISM is applied.

And now we're all going to witness the short term cashing in when GM has its IPO. It will make Frank Quattrone's Friends & Family pay-offs look like church bingo.

 

[boedicca]

I did a spot check....did you know that "expanding" to other states is not the same as moving? Just sayin'.

they are leaving Bo....most of them anyway....but go ahead....treat it like the politicians of this State do...

that's pretty sad Harry. Where does California expect to get revenue from? Will there be enough rich people left to cover the expenses?

The city governments are desperate to find ways to increase property taxes via fees and fines. I expect we'll also see another increase in sales tax and lowering of the income levels at which the "millionaire" income tax surcharge applies.

 

[GHook93]

More from this great website. We need more AZ's, TX and UT and less CA's!

The list will grow as Sacramento considers more measures that will increase corporate taxes, increase workers' comp costs, increase regulatory reporting requirements (along with higher fines for minor infractions), increase gasoline and diesel-fuel taxes, increase water rates, increase electric-power rates, and increase assorted fees that will cause services to become more expensive.

California officials will go to great lengths to avoid admitting companies are leaving for locations elsewhere, although one state economic development official admitted that in 2007 (before the economic meltdown) the state lost "only" 1,000 businesses. The official did not comment on the California Manufacturers and Technology Association study that showed the state lost 25 percent of its total manufacturing employment between 1990 and 2007. For additional perspective, see: "California factory jobs have disappeared."

Sorry about that!

The full article can be found at:
The Business Relocation Coach: California's Hostile Business Climate: 100 'Moving-Out-of-State' Events (See newer list)

And the Newer List, at:
The Business Relocation Coach: Updated: California's Hostile Business Climate -- 114 'Moving-Out-of-State' Events

 

[Harry Dresden]

Cause and effect is a difficult concept for the, uh, challenged. I might surmise many reason for businesses to expand to other states from California, as well as businesses moving from other states to California.
I know that South Beach, the eastern shore of San Francisco, is enjoying a renewal fueled by AT&T Park and an ever growing high tech/bio tech revolution. What once was light industrial is now a mecca for young, intelligent, educated twenty and thirty somethings. High rise offices, urban parks, bicycle and public transit friendly it seems as if each day a new building is under construction.
I know that Hunter's Point, an area known more for public housing and crime is under planning to develop a seaport for cruise ships, a new stadium to be shared by the 9ers and Raiders (possibly) and up-scale hotels, restaurants and housing.
One day Californian's may figure out that the R's who hold our legislature hostage with a NO on taxes of any kind are the anchor which prevents movement and progress. Laws requiring a 2/3 vote to raise taxes which provide public transportation, police and fire protection and the necessary infrastructure to support development die of attrition as the conservative block, a minority in the legislature put their own reelection before the state as a whole. No one likes taxes, but few like pot holes, and even less want to wait for a 911 call to be answered and help to be dispatched.

Wry Dean chimes in....."the Republican minority holds this State Hostage"....the legislature as well as the voting populace is well on the Democratic side.....but those Rascally Republicans are holding California back....the Democratic side of this State is just so innocent.....let me ask you something Wry.....why are a hell of a lot of propositions that ask for tax raises or bonds defeated in this State?...because of the republicans?.....or because of the voters?....why hasnt Prop 13 been overturned?....another one of your bitches....for someone who lives in this State and puts this States downfall ...TOTALLY ON THE MINORITY party in this State....and forgets to even give the MAJORITY PARTY even a little bit of fault....tells me one thing about you.....you are just another San Francisco Elitist who has been washed in the glow of the Pelosi-Newsome-Dean bullshit machine....