Calif Train to Nowhere Cost At $77B and

[Rustic]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
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High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Why do you want others to believe the US can't build high speed trains? Rail between cities which reaches MPH faster than what we see and many experience every day at commute times (which continue to expand) rarely reach the legal speed limit.

Electric trains 'fueled' by solar panels & wind turbines are the future. If we were smart, we would invest in the latest and newest form of green, renewable and nuclear energy, and put coal burners out of business.

Keep your trains in crazy Cali and the east coast... they have no place in flyover America...

 

[Weatherman2020]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Why do you want others to believe the US can't build high speed trains? Rail between cities which reaches MPH faster than what we see and many experience every day at commute times (which continue to expand) rarely reach the legal speed limit.

Electric trains 'fueled' by solar panels & wind turbines are the future. If we were smart, we would invest in the latest and newest form of green, renewable and nuclear energy, and put coal burners out of business.

Why do you want others to believe the US can't build high speed trains?

Trick question?
Because they are already 400% overbudget and 6 years behind schedule on the easiest part and have already lowered speeds on many sections to be just regular train speed?

 

[Weatherman2020]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

Who wants to go from Bakersfield to madera?

Ask Calif Democrats. I have no clue. Car is faster and you have your car when you arrive.

 

[Weatherman2020]

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Flexible tunnel technologies; the Eureka State should be on it.

Great plan, you just quadrupled the cost.

We are getting into quantum mechanics, now; better planning can provide better solutions.

We should should establish a State Corps of Engineers to make sure public policy can be advanced in a practical manner.

Not that the state of Ca. has a debt of 400+ billion already. It can just put that pipe dream on the list.

And a shortage of drinking water and burning down.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Flexible tunnel technologies; the Eureka State should be on it.

Great plan, you just quadrupled the cost.

We are getting into quantum mechanics, now; better planning can provide better solutions.

We should should establish a State Corps of Engineers to make sure public policy can be advanced in a practical manner.

Not that the state of Ca. has a debt of 400+ billion already. It can just put that pipe dream on the list.

And a shortage of drinking water and burning down.

Wry Catcher if Treason Jerry wasn’t throwing $25b per year at wetbacks we could have had your Meth Train long ago huh?

 

[Harry Dresden]

By the time you get to Victorville your almost to Vegas. Who’s going to wait 2 hours for the train then have to rent a car once you get there?

You're not even almost to Barstow when you get to Victorville.

Yup. Victorville is just up the hill from San Bernardino, good grief, who thought up that one?

And we all know how special Victorville is....LOL.

Hey, hey, hey.....Roy Rogers had his Roy Rogers museum in Victorville, show a little reverence.

i loved nelly bell.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

Who wants to go from Bakersfield to madera?

madera is beautiful this time of year....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Flexible tunnel technologies; the Eureka State should be on it.

Great plan, you just quadrupled the cost.

We are getting into quantum mechanics, now; better planning can provide better solutions.

We should should establish a State Corps of Engineers to make sure public policy can be advanced in a practical manner.

Not that the state of Ca. has a debt of 400+ billion already. It can just put that pipe dream on the list.

One of the first things that Kascih did when took over as Governor was send DumBama his Train to Nowhere check back. I don't agree with Kasich on a lot of things, but sending that check back saved our state billions in future debt.

 

[Thinker101]

And billions more just to complete 119 miles from Bakersfield to Madera on flat even ground.

The few remaining Republicans had to go to court to get Democrats to conduct the audit.

California's rush to start building high-speed rail sent costs soaring

One of these bad boys cost $250M. California could have purchased 308 of these.
View attachment 232051

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

Lincoln got the Transcontinental R.R. going during the Civil War, in the days before greed and fiscal conservatism opposed major projects.

How much and how well did the Trillions $$$$$ of Dollars benefit our country, when spent to invade and occupy Iraq, and continue the war in Afghanistan? In fact we will continue to spend money to treat the thousands of men and women wounded physically and mentally (PTSD) in this war of choice well into the 21st Century.

Some may feel high speed rail is the future, unfortunately it needs to go HIGH SPEED, which it won't.

Why do you want others to believe the US can't build high speed trains? Rail between cities which reaches MPH faster than what we see and many experience every day at commute times (which continue to expand) rarely reach the legal speed limit.

Electric trains 'fueled' by solar panels & wind turbines are the future. If we were smart, we would invest in the latest and newest form of green, renewable and nuclear energy, and put coal burners out of business.

Cmon now, we're talking California here. No doubt the US can build high speed trains, but the train in California is not a high speed train (might want to read the fine print).

 

[Thinker101]

By the time you get to Victorville your almost to Vegas. Who’s going to wait 2 hours for the train then have to rent a car once you get there?

You're not even almost to Barstow when you get to Victorville.

Yup. Victorville is just up the hill from San Bernardino, good grief, who thought up that one?

And we all know how special Victorville is....LOL.

Hey, hey, hey.....Roy Rogers had his Roy Rogers museum in Victorville, show a little reverence.

I may have to question you on this. Technically, wasn't Roy in Apple Valley?

 

[Markle]

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

The time for high-speed rail is long gone. A massive waste of money for something that will NEVER be cost effective.

Cost estimates for the California boondoggle have doubled. California, a state drowning in debt,

One of Richard Blum's companies just won a nearly ONE BILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT for this fiasco. Who is Richard Blum and how did he get that contract? His wife is Senator Dianne Feinstein. Go figure!!

 

[jasonnfree]

It must suck having nothing to do on Saturday but worry about the trains in California. Must be boring as hell being a right winger.

 

[Thinker101]

It must suck having nothing to do on Saturday but worry about the trains in California. Must be boring as hell being a right winger.

Yup, not all of us lead the obviously exciting life you have.

 

[candycorn]

It must suck having nothing to do on Saturday but worry about the trains in California. Must be boring as hell being a right winger.

Unending seething hatred makes you do strange things.

 

[fncceo]

High speed rail is the future

 

[candycorn]

What is a mystery to me this; a freighter from China docks at Long Beach and it has 8,000 containers or so. Each container goes onto a truck or train and is taken somewhere else. If it's on the back of a truck you have a lag time of days before the goods are taken to a distribution center then sent to the stores from there. If the DC is in Denver, what is that, 2 days to get there, then unloaded then put on an outbound truck to the stores or (more than likely) another warehouse or wholesaler. Seems to me like high-speed freight trains would be the optimum solution for both importers, shippers, exporters on the other end, etc... Once you get that infrastructure up and going (Long Beach to Chicago in 12 hours for example) then add passenger cars to the mix I doubt high speed rail will ever take root in the US if passenger traffic is the only use.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It must suck having nothing to do on Saturday but worry about the trains in California. Must be boring as hell being a right winger.

Yeah, how pathetic. It's a good thing you're not one of those people.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

High speed rail is the future, no wonder the Reactionaries seek to regress and keep the internal combustion polluters, and pull more oil out of the ground creating man-made earthquakes.

The time for high-speed rail is long gone. A massive waste of money for something that will NEVER be cost effective.

Cost estimates for the California boondoggle have doubled. California, a state drowning in debt,

One of Richard Blum's companies just won a nearly ONE BILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT for this fiasco. Who is Richard Blum and how did he get that contract? His wife is Senator Dianne Feinstein. Go figure!!

If there was anyway to make a profit on rails, private industry would have capitalized on it long ago. But the truth is there is no freedom like having your own personal transportation.

This is why they are all subsidized like most other public transportation systems. Most public transportation could never survive on it's own because most people don't want it.

 

[Shrimpbox]

It must suck having nothing to do on Saturday but worry about the trains in California. Must be boring as hell being a right winger.

Unending seething hatred makes you do strange things.

You should know

 

[Markle]

better planning can lower costs.

ONLY by eliminating the boondoggle entirely.

Better planning! Keep in mind you're talking about California!