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29 Jun 2020 ~~ By Rosamina Lowi
The current mania for pulling down statues of so-called morally corrupt historical figures is a classic case of presentism: "reading modern notions of morality" onto the past. It seems that those driven to do so may be honestly trying to rectify the "sins" of the past — whether it be colonial conquest, slavery, genocide, or whatever else. How corrupt were these historical figures? Were they indeed much more reprehensible than anyone in the present day? What did these people actually think in the awful before times when our Western European ancestors discovered the "New World" and practiced conquest and slavery? We are not able to read their minds — only to speculate upon their intent by examining historical documents: the writings, recollections, and stories of those who experienced those days. Indeed, how many of these activists so intent on destroying these representations of the past are fully knowledgeable of these documents that underpin the respect once given to these historical figures resulting in their statuary honors?
~~snip~~
Throughout history, there is much can be learned from both the accomplishments and the mistakes made by those that came before us. Erasing history serves only to throw the baby out with the bath water.
We are supposedly morally evolved for the better now — against slavery, racism and bigotry, conquest and war — yet one open-eyed observation across our planet today would reveal that human beings are practicing these "awful" behaviors almost everywhere in some form or another.
~~snip~~
It raises the question — is the current violence and outrage simply a case of hubris and ignorance, or is there another purpose driving this need to erase the past? Should our historical figures be seen not as good examples at all, but as horrible warnings? Even if so, we are still charged to learn from the past to both appreciate the benefits that have sprung from their effort and forge a better future by avoiding their mistakes.
In any case, the destructive so-called activists — i.e., vandals — definitely fall into the category of being not good examples, but horrible warnings to a civil society. Woe to a human experience with no history, no memory of either joy or pain. Without memory, we have no understanding. It is better to add to the history we think we know — to unveil the hidden, to recognize and honor the forgotten, in order to make the record more honest and complete. Doing so can inform our work to build a better future's past. History demands our humble understanding, not our hubristic outrage.


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You cannot reason with a mob of ill equiped brainwashed educated people. They are Philistines, ignorant and proudly so. They are the Bolsheviks Russians entering Berlin, raping, killing and stealing toilets because they think they are potato washers because they have never seen indoor plumbing.
Surely these know little of the 1918 intervention by America and it's allies to stave off the Civil War in Russia.
See: https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-viole...1918-1921.html

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...war-180971470/

It does not matter how many statues they tear down, books they burn, or the media censoring history and speech, history will remain the same. The Democratic party was the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation. And they are still manipulating the people of color through these actions by continuing to make them out as victims, while creating ghettos in their blue cities, instead of helping them to be the great people they are.
As an example the last Republican Mayor of Baltimore was in 1967 that 53 years ago and murder and overall crime has risen under Democrat control. Yet, Democrats that raised effigies to their political ideology abound while education has suffered greatly. Black children graduating are on the verge of illiteracy much less know much of history including their own. They never heard of George Washington Carver, or Frederick Douglas and others that rose above their circumstances and contribute to this country.
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"A society that believes in itself builds monuments, a sick society does not, and a dying society watches as they are torn down."
 

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Fascists always begin with statues and works of art....then they deny free speech....voting.....and freedom of thought....the schools turn all the way into government re education camps and book burning centers.....they can't have some of us not believing in global warming and white privilege and abortion on demand...we would all have to be re educated....and voting would stop until we all thought the same way....enjoy dummies......this is where we are headed....
 

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By Destroying History, Liberals Make an Example of Themselves
By Destroying History, Liberals Make an Example of Themselves
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29 Jun 2020 ~~ By Rosamina Lowi
The current mania for pulling down statues of so-called morally corrupt historical figures is a classic case of presentism: "reading modern notions of morality" onto the past. It seems that those driven to do so may be honestly trying to rectify the "sins" of the past — whether it be colonial conquest, slavery, genocide, or whatever else. How corrupt were these historical figures? Were they indeed much more reprehensible than anyone in the present day? What did these people actually think in the awful before times when our Western European ancestors discovered the "New World" and practiced conquest and slavery? We are not able to read their minds — only to speculate upon their intent by examining historical documents: the writings, recollections, and stories of those who experienced those days. Indeed, how many of these activists so intent on destroying these representations of the past are fully knowledgeable of these documents that underpin the respect once given to these historical figures resulting in their statuary honors?
~~snip~~
Throughout history, there is much can be learned from both the accomplishments and the mistakes made by those that came before us. Erasing history serves only to throw the baby out with the bath water.
We are supposedly morally evolved for the better now — against slavery, racism and bigotry, conquest and war — yet one open-eyed observation across our planet today would reveal that human beings are practicing these "awful" behaviors almost everywhere in some form or another.
~~snip~~
It raises the question — is the current violence and outrage simply a case of hubris and ignorance, or is there another purpose driving this need to erase the past? Should our historical figures be seen not as good examples at all, but as horrible warnings? Even if so, we are still charged to learn from the past to both appreciate the benefits that have sprung from their effort and forge a better future by avoiding their mistakes.
In any case, the destructive so-called activists — i.e., vandals — definitely fall into the category of being not good examples, but horrible warnings to a civil society. Woe to a human experience with no history, no memory of either joy or pain. Without memory, we have no understanding. It is better to add to the history we think we know — to unveil the hidden, to recognize and honor the forgotten, in order to make the record more honest and complete. Doing so can inform our work to build a better future's past. History demands our humble understanding, not our hubristic outrage.


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You cannot reason with a mob of ill equiped brainwashed educated people. They are Philistines, ignorant and proudly so. They are the Bolsheviks Russians entering Berlin, raping, killing and stealing toilets because they think they are potato washers because they have never seen indoor plumbing.
Surely these know little of the 1918 intervention by America and it's allies to stave off the Civil War in Russia.
See: https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-viole...1918-1921.html

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...war-180971470/

It does not matter how many statues they tear down, books they burn, or the media censoring history and speech, history will remain the same. The Democratic party was the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation. And they are still manipulating the people of color through these actions by continuing to make them out as victims, while creating ghettos in their blue cities, instead of helping them to be the great people they are.
As an example the last Republican Mayor of Baltimore was in 1967 that 53 years ago and murder and overall crime has risen under Democrat control. Yet, Democrats that raised effigies to their political ideology abound while education has suffered greatly. Black children graduating are on the verge of illiteracy much less know much of history including their own. They never heard of George Washington Carver, or Frederick Douglas and others that rose above their circumstances and contribute to this country.
See:

"A society that believes in itself builds monuments, a sick society does not, and a dying society watches as they are torn down."
The Southern Democrats was the party of slavery not the Unionist Northern Democrats, could you at least recite history more accurately if you are going to try and defend it?
 

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Fascists always begin with statues and works of art....then they deny free speech....voting.....and freedom of thought....the schools turn all the way into government re education camps and book burning centers.....they can't have some of us not believing in global warming and white privilege and abortion on demand...we would all have to be re educated....and voting would stop until we all thought the same way....enjoy dummies......this is where we are headed....
Those fascist Christians destroyed pagan statues and symbols did that ever bother yous?
 

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Fascists always begin with statues and works of art....then they deny free speech....voting.....and freedom of thought....the schools turn all the way into government re education camps and book burning centers.....they can't have some of us not believing in global warming and white privilege and abortion on demand...we would all have to be re educated....and voting would stop until we all thought the same way....enjoy dummies......this is where we are headed....
Those fascist Christians destroyed pagan statues and symbols did that ever bother yous?
I wasn't alive at the time so no....not at all.....
 
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By Destroying History, Liberals Make an Example of Themselves
By Destroying History, Liberals Make an Example of Themselves
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...hemselves.html
29 Jun 2020 ~~ By Rosamina Lowi
The current mania for pulling down statues of so-called morally corrupt historical figures is a classic case of presentism: "reading modern notions of morality" onto the past. It seems that those driven to do so may be honestly trying to rectify the "sins" of the past — whether it be colonial conquest, slavery, genocide, or whatever else. How corrupt were these historical figures? Were they indeed much more reprehensible than anyone in the present day? What did these people actually think in the awful before times when our Western European ancestors discovered the "New World" and practiced conquest and slavery? We are not able to read their minds — only to speculate upon their intent by examining historical documents: the writings, recollections, and stories of those who experienced those days. Indeed, how many of these activists so intent on destroying these representations of the past are fully knowledgeable of these documents that underpin the respect once given to these historical figures resulting in their statuary honors?
~~snip~~
Throughout history, there is much can be learned from both the accomplishments and the mistakes made by those that came before us. Erasing history serves only to throw the baby out with the bath water.
We are supposedly morally evolved for the better now — against slavery, racism and bigotry, conquest and war — yet one open-eyed observation across our planet today would reveal that human beings are practicing these "awful" behaviors almost everywhere in some form or another.
~~snip~~
It raises the question — is the current violence and outrage simply a case of hubris and ignorance, or is there another purpose driving this need to erase the past? Should our historical figures be seen not as good examples at all, but as horrible warnings? Even if so, we are still charged to learn from the past to both appreciate the benefits that have sprung from their effort and forge a better future by avoiding their mistakes.
In any case, the destructive so-called activists — i.e., vandals — definitely fall into the category of being not good examples, but horrible warnings to a civil society. Woe to a human experience with no history, no memory of either joy or pain. Without memory, we have no understanding. It is better to add to the history we think we know — to unveil the hidden, to recognize and honor the forgotten, in order to make the record more honest and complete. Doing so can inform our work to build a better future's past. History demands our humble understanding, not our hubristic outrage.


Comment:
You cannot reason with a mob of ill equiped brainwashed educated people. They are Philistines, ignorant and proudly so. They are the Bolsheviks Russians entering Berlin, raping, killing and stealing toilets because they think they are potato washers because they have never seen indoor plumbing.
Surely these know little of the 1918 intervention by America and it's allies to stave off the Civil War in Russia.
See: https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-viole...1918-1921.html

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...war-180971470/

It does not matter how many statues they tear down, books they burn, or the media censoring history and speech, history will remain the same. The Democratic party was the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation. And they are still manipulating the people of color through these actions by continuing to make them out as victims, while creating ghettos in their blue cities, instead of helping them to be the great people they are.
As an example the last Republican Mayor of Baltimore was in 1967 that 53 years ago and murder and overall crime has risen under Democrat control. Yet, Democrats that raised effigies to their political ideology abound while education has suffered greatly. Black children graduating are on the verge of illiteracy much less know much of history including their own. They never heard of George Washington Carver, or Frederick Douglas and others that rose above their circumstances and contribute to this country.
See:

"A society that believes in itself builds monuments, a sick society does not, and a dying society watches as they are torn down."
The Southern Democrats was the party of slavery not the Unionist Northern Democrats, could you at least recite history more accurately if you are going to try and defend it?
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Wasn't it a New Jersey professor at Princeton a Democrat president that segregated the military and federal employment, then allowed the KKK to march down Pennsylvania Ave...?He even showed "Birth of A Nation" nightly in the White House.
Then there were that good ole Governors Maddox and Wallace that refused to desegregate the schools, or ther great Senator from West Virginia and Grand Klegel of the KKK, that filibustered and would not vote for the American Civil Rights Act.
Hmm...., I remember how well he was revered and spoken of at his funeral by his fellow racist Democrats.



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By Destroying History, Liberals Make an Example of Themselves
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29 Jun 2020 ~~ By Rosamina Lowi
The current mania for pulling down statues of so-called morally corrupt historical figures is a classic case of presentism: "reading modern notions of morality" onto the past. It seems that those driven to do so may be honestly trying to rectify the "sins" of the past — whether it be colonial conquest, slavery, genocide, or whatever else. How corrupt were these historical figures? Were they indeed much more reprehensible than anyone in the present day? What did these people actually think in the awful before times when our Western European ancestors discovered the "New World" and practiced conquest and slavery? We are not able to read their minds — only to speculate upon their intent by examining historical documents: the writings, recollections, and stories of those who experienced those days. Indeed, how many of these activists so intent on destroying these representations of the past are fully knowledgeable of these documents that underpin the respect once given to these historical figures resulting in their statuary honors?
~~snip~~
Throughout history, there is much can be learned from both the accomplishments and the mistakes made by those that came before us. Erasing history serves only to throw the baby out with the bath water.
We are supposedly morally evolved for the better now — against slavery, racism and bigotry, conquest and war — yet one open-eyed observation across our planet today would reveal that human beings are practicing these "awful" behaviors almost everywhere in some form or another.
~~snip~~
It raises the question — is the current violence and outrage simply a case of hubris and ignorance, or is there another purpose driving this need to erase the past? Should our historical figures be seen not as good examples at all, but as horrible warnings? Even if so, we are still charged to learn from the past to both appreciate the benefits that have sprung from their effort and forge a better future by avoiding their mistakes.
In any case, the destructive so-called activists — i.e., vandals — definitely fall into the category of being not good examples, but horrible warnings to a civil society. Woe to a human experience with no history, no memory of either joy or pain. Without memory, we have no understanding. It is better to add to the history we think we know — to unveil the hidden, to recognize and honor the forgotten, in order to make the record more honest and complete. Doing so can inform our work to build a better future's past. History demands our humble understanding, not our hubristic outrage.


Comment:
You cannot reason with a mob of ill equiped brainwashed educated people. They are Philistines, ignorant and proudly so. They are the Bolsheviks Russians entering Berlin, raping, killing and stealing toilets because they think they are potato washers because they have never seen indoor plumbing.
Surely these know little of the 1918 intervention by America and it's allies to stave off the Civil War in Russia.
See: https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-viole...1918-1921.html

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...war-180971470/

It does not matter how many statues they tear down, books they burn, or the media censoring history and speech, history will remain the same. The Democratic party was the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation. And they are still manipulating the people of color through these actions by continuing to make them out as victims, while creating ghettos in their blue cities, instead of helping them to be the great people they are.
As an example the last Republican Mayor of Baltimore was in 1967 that 53 years ago and murder and overall crime has risen under Democrat control. Yet, Democrats that raised effigies to their political ideology abound while education has suffered greatly. Black children graduating are on the verge of illiteracy much less know much of history including their own. They never heard of George Washington Carver, or Frederick Douglas and others that rose above their circumstances and contribute to this country.
See:

"A society that believes in itself builds monuments, a sick society does not, and a dying society watches as they are torn down."
The Southern Democrats was the party of slavery not the Unionist Northern Democrats, could you at least recite history more accurately if you are going to try and defend it?
~~~~~~
Wasn't it a New Jersey professor at Princeton a Democrat president that segregated the military and federal employment, then allowed the KKK to march down Pennsylvania Ave...?He even showed "Birth of A Nation" nightly in the White House.
Then there were that good ole Governors Maddox and Wallace that refused to desegregate the schools, or ther great Senator from West Virginia and Grand Klegel of the KKK, that filibustered and would not vote for the American Civil Rights Act.
Hmm...., I remember how well he was revered and spoken of at his funeral by his fellow racist Democrats.



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Woodrow Wilson would be a republican today. You're not destroying American history by taking down statues of a nation called the confederacy that waged war on this country.
 

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29 Jun 2020 ~~ By Rosamina Lowi
The current mania for pulling down statues of so-called morally corrupt historical figures is a classic case of presentism: "reading modern notions of morality" onto the past. It seems that those driven to do so may be honestly trying to rectify the "sins" of the past — whether it be colonial conquest, slavery, genocide, or whatever else. How corrupt were these historical figures? Were they indeed much more reprehensible than anyone in the present day? What did these people actually think in the awful before times when our Western European ancestors discovered the "New World" and practiced conquest and slavery? We are not able to read their minds — only to speculate upon their intent by examining historical documents: the writings, recollections, and stories of those who experienced those days. Indeed, how many of these activists so intent on destroying these representations of the past are fully knowledgeable of these documents that underpin the respect once given to these historical figures resulting in their statuary honors?
~~snip~~
Throughout history, there is much can be learned from both the accomplishments and the mistakes made by those that came before us. Erasing history serves only to throw the baby out with the bath water.
We are supposedly morally evolved for the better now — against slavery, racism and bigotry, conquest and war — yet one open-eyed observation across our planet today would reveal that human beings are practicing these "awful" behaviors almost everywhere in some form or another.
~~snip~~
It raises the question — is the current violence and outrage simply a case of hubris and ignorance, or is there another purpose driving this need to erase the past? Should our historical figures be seen not as good examples at all, but as horrible warnings? Even if so, we are still charged to learn from the past to both appreciate the benefits that have sprung from their effort and forge a better future by avoiding their mistakes.
In any case, the destructive so-called activists — i.e., vandals — definitely fall into the category of being not good examples, but horrible warnings to a civil society. Woe to a human experience with no history, no memory of either joy or pain. Without memory, we have no understanding. It is better to add to the history we think we know — to unveil the hidden, to recognize and honor the forgotten, in order to make the record more honest and complete. Doing so can inform our work to build a better future's past. History demands our humble understanding, not our hubristic outrage.


Comment:
You cannot reason with a mob of ill equiped brainwashed educated people. They are Philistines, ignorant and proudly so. They are the Bolsheviks Russians entering Berlin, raping, killing and stealing toilets because they think they are potato washers because they have never seen indoor plumbing.
Surely these know little of the 1918 intervention by America and it's allies to stave off the Civil War in Russia.
See: https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-viole...1918-1921.html

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...war-180971470/

It does not matter how many statues they tear down, books they burn, or the media censoring history and speech, history will remain the same. The Democratic party was the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation. And they are still manipulating the people of color through these actions by continuing to make them out as victims, while creating ghettos in their blue cities, instead of helping them to be the great people they are.
As an example the last Republican Mayor of Baltimore was in 1967 that 53 years ago and murder and overall crime has risen under Democrat control. Yet, Democrats that raised effigies to their political ideology abound while education has suffered greatly. Black children graduating are on the verge of illiteracy much less know much of history including their own. They never heard of George Washington Carver, or Frederick Douglas and others that rose above their circumstances and contribute to this country.
See:

"A society that believes in itself builds monuments, a sick society does not, and a dying society watches as they are torn down."
The Southern Democrats was the party of slavery not the Unionist Northern Democrats, could you at least recite history more accurately if you are going to try and defend it?
~~~~~~
Wasn't it a New Jersey professor at Princeton a Democrat president that segregated the military and federal employment, then allowed the KKK to march down Pennsylvania Ave...?He even showed "Birth of A Nation" nightly in the White House.
Then there were that good ole Governors Maddox and Wallace that refused to desegregate the schools, or ther great Senator from West Virginia and Grand Klegel of the KKK, that filibustered and would not vote for the American Civil Rights Act.
Hmm...., I remember how well he was revered and spoken of at his funeral by his fellow racist Democrats.



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Woodrow Wilson would be a republican today. You're not destroying American history by taking down statues of a nation called the confederacy that waged war on this country.
You say you are better then others. you have the same sickness. You can not mind your own business. You have to know what others are doing. It is ingrained on the human DNA. It is our major weakness. We promote the strength of the surveillance we created. But the nastiness of it is never touched. People have been destroyed for nothing. We turned simple things into major issues. People needing help during a beatdown are not but they are recorded for social media while you hear the laughter. And many times by people who should know better. This pandemic and riots are the revenge tools that can wipe out a lot of angst people cause to others if it goes on long enough. We can be taken over a lot more easily by anything that promotes us having to know what another human being is doing 24 hours a day. Including here. So while a good show is being put on these boards the people in the groups of people who have been screwed over are most likely getting their revenge. Spreading the plague is easy. If it is a plague. Destroying things by helping people by doing it with them is easy. Imagine when some of them get WMD's or use everyday products to get their revenge. And who can blame them?
 

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