Bust Up the US No Go Zones

[Pogo]

If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir

That's not what the article says. I read French. It does talk about using the army but it says nothing about the existence of your comic book fantasy zones.

 

[protectionist]

"Bust Up the US No Go Zones"

This is ignorant and ridiculous, given the fact 'no go zones' are a myth, a lie contrived by some on the right with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims and Islam.

The statement that no go zones is a myth, is a myth (and a stupid one) itself. There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America. They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University, the United Muslim-Christian Forum, the Islamic Post newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America, the Hands to Hands charity, Muslim Vets, the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team, and the Islamic Naat Group. A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

2. Islamberg, Hancock, NY - Islamberg is the 70-acre headquarters of Muslims of the Americas, the International Quranic Open University and the United Muslim Christian Forum. These organizations are led by a radical cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Islamberg originally had a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood

3. Gwynn Oak, Baltimore, Maryland, consisting of Muslim immigrants and African-American converts. The project is led by John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative. Cason explained that the neighborhood is a response to the problem that “Muslim communities are ruled by Western societal tenets, many of which clash with Islamic norms.” In his opinion, there is a need for communities with “the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.” As such, the Gwynn Oak enclave follows specific moral rules based on Islam and people there speak Arabic. On September 13, 2009, the construction of its three-story mosque began. Approximately 400 Muslims now live in the vicinity.

4. Islamic Center for Human Excellence, Little Rock, Arkansas - receives funding from the United Arab Emirates. In August 2004, it was granted permission to build a Muslim neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, complete with a mosque, school, and 22 homes; it would not allow the presence of alcohol. The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life, although the imam behind the effort said that non-Muslims are welcome to join. (if they become Muslims)

5. Holy Islamville, York County, SC - A 2004 report funded by the Justice Department identifies York County, S.C. as a “training compound” for Muslims of the Americas.[3] A 2006 report for law enforcement on the organization also said that York County, S.C. is home to one of at least seven “covert paramilitary training compounds.”[4] In 2010, nearby residents told a local newspaper that they had seen armed guards patrolling Islamville and that they sometimes heard gunfire at night.[5] The sound of gunfire coming from Islamville was recorded in November 2009, March 2011 and May 2011. A local resident reported the sounds of explosions on January 26, 2012 and April 6, 2012.[6]

6. Aliville, Odum, GA - a commune with a street named “Mecca Circle” that is believed to be run by Muslims of the Americas.

Others exist in >>

7.Red House, VA,

8.Hyattsville, MD, Falls Church, VA,

9. Macon, GA,

10. Dover, TN,

11. Buena Vista, CO,

12. Talihina, OK

13. Tulare Country, CA

14. Commerce. CA

15. Onalaska, WA

16. Sherman, PA Just to name a few

Yuh huh.

And how many of these have you actually seen?

You can put your self on record as being suckered by Islamists, and talking about as ridiculous as anyone can. No law against it. He, argue it out with the US Justice Dept and Dept of Homeland Security (as well as dozens of state & local police depts.) They're the ones who have documented it all.

Gwynn Oak Maryland - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[protectionist]

If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir

That's not what the article says. I read French. It does talk about using the army but it says nothing about the existence of your comic book fantasy zones.

FALSE! It says exactly what I said it says. Would you like me to present the English translation ?

 

[Skylar]

"Bust Up the US No Go Zones"

This is ignorant and ridiculous, given the fact 'no go zones' are a myth, a lie contrived by some on the right with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims and Islam.

The statement that no go zones is a myth, is a myth (and a stupid one) itself. There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America. They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University, the United Muslim-Christian Forum, the Islamic Post newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America, the Hands to Hands charity, Muslim Vets, the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team, and the Islamic Naat Group. A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

2. Islamberg, Hancock, NY - Islamberg is the 70-acre headquarters of Muslims of the Americas, the International Quranic Open University and the United Muslim Christian Forum. These organizations are led by a radical cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Islamberg originally had a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood

3. Gwynn Oak, Baltimore, Maryland, consisting of Muslim immigrants and African-American converts. The project is led by John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative. Cason explained that the neighborhood is a response to the problem that “Muslim communities are ruled by Western societal tenets, many of which clash with Islamic norms.” In his opinion, there is a need for communities with “the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.” As such, the Gwynn Oak enclave follows specific moral rules based on Islam and people there speak Arabic. On September 13, 2009, the construction of its three-story mosque began. Approximately 400 Muslims now live in the vicinity.

4. Islamic Center for Human Excellence, Little Rock, Arkansas - receives funding from the United Arab Emirates. In August 2004, it was granted permission to build a Muslim neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, complete with a mosque, school, and 22 homes; it would not allow the presence of alcohol. The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life, although the imam behind the effort said that non-Muslims are welcome to join. (if they become Muslims)

5. Holy Islamville, York County, SC - A 2004 report funded by the Justice Department identifies York County, S.C. as a “training compound” for Muslims of the Americas.[3] A 2006 report for law enforcement on the organization also said that York County, S.C. is home to one of at least seven “covert paramilitary training compounds.”[4] In 2010, nearby residents told a local newspaper that they had seen armed guards patrolling Islamville and that they sometimes heard gunfire at night.[5] The sound of gunfire coming from Islamville was recorded in November 2009, March 2011 and May 2011. A local resident reported the sounds of explosions on January 26, 2012 and April 6, 2012.[6]

6. Aliville, Odum, GA - a commune with a street named “Mecca Circle” that is believed to be run by Muslims of the Americas.

Others exist in >>

7.Red House, VA,

8.Hyattsville, MD, Falls Church, VA,

9. Macon, GA,

10. Dover, TN,

11. Buena Vista, CO,

12. Talihina, OK

13. Tulare Country, CA

14. Commerce. CA

15. Onalaska, WA

16. Sherman, PA Just to name a few

And where, pray tell, is the Muslim 'no-go' zone you speak of? As every single source you cited is under US legal jurisdiction with US law still applying.

 

[protectionist]

relevant links please to back up your claims. Thanks.

Which claims ? The TOPIC what to do about the US no go zones. There are no "claims"

 

[Skylar]

If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir

That's not what the article says. I read French. It does talk about using the army but it says nothing about the existence of your comic book fantasy zones.

FALSE! It says exactly what I said it says. Would you like me to present the English translation ?

By all means, yes. And the translation needs to be verifiable, as your sources are notoriously unreliable. The last 'muslim no-go zone' myth thread you started used Steve Emerson as your primary source. The hapless idiot that even Fox News denounced when he started babbling about exactly this topic.

 

[Skylar]

relevant links please to back up your claims. Thanks.

Which claims ? The TOPIC what to do about the US no go zones. There are no "claims"

The topic is a claim. One you have yet to back up with evidence. As you haven't cited a single example of a place where US jurisdiction doesn't apply, or US law enforcement cannot go.

You know, the 'no go' in 'Mulslim no go zone'.

 

[protectionist]

"Bust Up the US No Go Zones"

This is ignorant and ridiculous, given the fact 'no go zones' are a myth, a lie contrived by some on the right with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims and Islam.

The statement that no go zones is a myth, is a myth (and a stupid one) itself. There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America. They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University, the United Muslim-Christian Forum, the Islamic Post newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America, the Hands to Hands charity, Muslim Vets, the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team, and the Islamic Naat Group. A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

2. Islamberg, Hancock, NY - Islamberg is the 70-acre headquarters of Muslims of the Americas, the International Quranic Open University and the United Muslim Christian Forum. These organizations are led by a radical cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Islamberg originally had a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood

3. Gwynn Oak, Baltimore, Maryland, consisting of Muslim immigrants and African-American converts. The project is led by John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative. Cason explained that the neighborhood is a response to the problem that “Muslim communities are ruled by Western societal tenets, many of which clash with Islamic norms.” In his opinion, there is a need for communities with “the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.” As such, the Gwynn Oak enclave follows specific moral rules based on Islam and people there speak Arabic. On September 13, 2009, the construction of its three-story mosque began. Approximately 400 Muslims now live in the vicinity.

4. Islamic Center for Human Excellence, Little Rock, Arkansas - receives funding from the United Arab Emirates. In August 2004, it was granted permission to build a Muslim neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, complete with a mosque, school, and 22 homes; it would not allow the presence of alcohol. The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life, although the imam behind the effort said that non-Muslims are welcome to join. (if they become Muslims)

5. Holy Islamville, York County, SC - A 2004 report funded by the Justice Department identifies York County, S.C. as a “training compound” for Muslims of the Americas.[3] A 2006 report for law enforcement on the organization also said that York County, S.C. is home to one of at least seven “covert paramilitary training compounds.”[4] In 2010, nearby residents told a local newspaper that they had seen armed guards patrolling Islamville and that they sometimes heard gunfire at night.[5] The sound of gunfire coming from Islamville was recorded in November 2009, March 2011 and May 2011. A local resident reported the sounds of explosions on January 26, 2012 and April 6, 2012.[6]

6. Aliville, Odum, GA - a commune with a street named “Mecca Circle” that is believed to be run by Muslims of the Americas.

Others exist in >>

7.Red House, VA,

8.Hyattsville, MD, Falls Church, VA,

9. Macon, GA,

10. Dover, TN,

11. Buena Vista, CO,

12. Talihina, OK

13. Tulare Country, CA

14. Commerce. CA

15. Onalaska, WA

16. Sherman, PA Just to name a few

And where, pray tell, is the Muslim 'no-go' zone you speak of? As every single source you cited is under US legal jurisdiction with US law still applying.

That's the point. On paper, US law is supposed to apply. But it doesn't, inside the enclaves, and this is being protected by the US govt, when it shouldn't be. That's why the OP calls for the STATES to take action. Did you read the OP (AND its LINKS) Please don't come into the thread unprepared.

 

[protectionist]

relevant links please to back up your claims. Thanks.

Which claims ? The TOPIC what to do about the US no go zones. There are no "claims"

The topic is a claim. One you have yet to back up with evidence. As you haven't cited a single example of a place where US jurisdiction doesn't apply, or US law enforcement cannot go.

You know, the 'no go' in 'Mulslim no go zone'.

NO, the topic is NOT a claim. Unless you don't accept YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)

 

[Skylar]

"Bust Up the US No Go Zones"

This is ignorant and ridiculous, given the fact 'no go zones' are a myth, a lie contrived by some on the right with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims and Islam.

The statement that no go zones is a myth, is a myth (and a stupid one) itself. There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America. They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University, the United Muslim-Christian Forum, the Islamic Post newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America, the Hands to Hands charity, Muslim Vets, the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team, and the Islamic Naat Group. A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

2. Islamberg, Hancock, NY - Islamberg is the 70-acre headquarters of Muslims of the Americas, the International Quranic Open University and the United Muslim Christian Forum. These organizations are led by a radical cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Islamberg originally had a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood

3. Gwynn Oak, Baltimore, Maryland, consisting of Muslim immigrants and African-American converts. The project is led by John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative. Cason explained that the neighborhood is a response to the problem that “Muslim communities are ruled by Western societal tenets, many of which clash with Islamic norms.” In his opinion, there is a need for communities with “the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.” As such, the Gwynn Oak enclave follows specific moral rules based on Islam and people there speak Arabic. On September 13, 2009, the construction of its three-story mosque began. Approximately 400 Muslims now live in the vicinity.

4. Islamic Center for Human Excellence, Little Rock, Arkansas - receives funding from the United Arab Emirates. In August 2004, it was granted permission to build a Muslim neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, complete with a mosque, school, and 22 homes; it would not allow the presence of alcohol. The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life, although the imam behind the effort said that non-Muslims are welcome to join. (if they become Muslims)

5. Holy Islamville, York County, SC - A 2004 report funded by the Justice Department identifies York County, S.C. as a “training compound” for Muslims of the Americas.[3] A 2006 report for law enforcement on the organization also said that York County, S.C. is home to one of at least seven “covert paramilitary training compounds.”[4] In 2010, nearby residents told a local newspaper that they had seen armed guards patrolling Islamville and that they sometimes heard gunfire at night.[5] The sound of gunfire coming from Islamville was recorded in November 2009, March 2011 and May 2011. A local resident reported the sounds of explosions on January 26, 2012 and April 6, 2012.[6]

6. Aliville, Odum, GA - a commune with a street named “Mecca Circle” that is believed to be run by Muslims of the Americas.

Others exist in >>

7.Red House, VA,

8.Hyattsville, MD, Falls Church, VA,

9. Macon, GA,

10. Dover, TN,

11. Buena Vista, CO,

12. Talihina, OK

13. Tulare Country, CA

14. Commerce. CA

15. Onalaska, WA

16. Sherman, PA Just to name a few

And where, pray tell, is the Muslim 'no-go' zone you speak of? As every single source you cited is under US legal jurisdiction with US law still applying.

That's the point. On paper, US law is supposed to apply. But it doesn't, inside the enclaves, and this is being protected by the US govt, when it shouldn't be.

So you say. And this is where your argument breaks. You can't back that claim up with evidence. You're offering us a list of cities. But nothing to indicate that those cities are what you claim they are.

I've followed several of your links. And they're more statements of affirmative opinion. But not actual evidence. And given that your last 'muslim no go zone' fantasy thread was based on the ramblings of Steve Emerson.....a man so spectacularly clueless that even Fox News condemned his inane 'no go zone' ramblings, with Emerson himself issuing an apology and admitting his ignorance....I'm gonna need more than unsubstantiated lists.

So what have you got?

Or let me make this simpler for you. Prove that Dearborn Michigan is a muslim 'no go zone'. I suspect that you'll cite a fist fight from a 2012 youtube video. But not actual evidence backing your claim.

 

[Skylar]

relevant links please to back up your claims. Thanks.

Which claims ? The TOPIC what to do about the US no go zones. There are no "claims"

The topic is a claim. One you have yet to back up with evidence. As you haven't cited a single example of a place where US jurisdiction doesn't apply, or US law enforcement cannot go.

You know, the 'no go' in 'Mulslim no go zone'.

NO, the topic is NOT a claim. Unless you don't accept YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)

Oh yes it is. Quote one of your 'documented reports' proving that say, Dearborn Michigan is a Muslim no go zone. Its number 1 on your list, so it should be remarkably easy for you to do so.

Unless you're talking out of your ass, in which case you'll give us excuses for why you can't.

 

[protectionist]

If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir

That's not what the article says. I read French. It does talk about using the army but it says nothing about the existence of your comic book fantasy zones.

FALSE! It says exactly what I said it says. Would you like me to present the English translation ?

By all means, yes. And the translation needs to be verifiable, as your sources are notoriously unreliable. The last 'muslim no-go zone' myth thread you started used Steve Emerson as your primary source. The hapless idiot that even Fox News denounced when he started babbling about exactly this topic.

HA HA. My sources are unreliable ? Andrew McCarthy, lead prosecutor in the 1993 World Trade Center terrorist bombing. The sources are only unreliable. only according to your unreliable Islamapologist media, which doesn't even report Islamization at all. As I said in Post # 15 >>>

INVALIDATION is hard-wired into Islamapologiststs.

As for Emerson, he is a longtime EXCELLENT protectionist, and I could give examples of where he has exposed Islamists, if not raked them over the coals (available on request). So he made a slight mistake in his wording about Birmingham. That's not a big deal. Everybody makes these little mistakes from time to time. Let he who is 100% correct, always, cast the first stone.

What the silly critics are missing, is that Emerson's statement, was very meaningful, with or without his slight error. Birmingham DOES have many no-go zones. Hardly matters if ALL of it is no go, or just parts of it. NONE of it should be no go zones.

 

[Skylar]

If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir

That's not what the article says. I read French. It does talk about using the army but it says nothing about the existence of your comic book fantasy zones.

FALSE! It says exactly what I said it says. Would you like me to present the English translation ?

By all means, yes. And the translation needs to be verifiable, as your sources are notoriously unreliable. The last 'muslim no-go zone' myth thread you started used Steve Emerson as your primary source. The hapless idiot that even Fox News denounced when he started babbling about exactly this topic.

HA HA. My sources are unreliable ? Andrew McCarthy, lead prosecutor in the 1993 World Trade Center terrorist bombing. The sources are only unreliable. only according to your unreliable Islamapologist media, which doesn't even report Islamization at all. As I said in Post # 15 >>>

INVALIDATION is hard-wired into Islamapologiststs.

As for Emerson, he is a longtime EXCELLENT protectionist, and I could give examples of where he has exposed Islamists, if not raked them over the coals (available on request). So he made a slight mistake in his wording about Birmingham. That's not a big deal. Everybody makes these little mistakes from time to time. Let he who is 100% correct, always, cast the first stone.

What the silly critics are missing, is that Emerson's statement, was very meaningful, with or without his slight error. Birmingham DOES have many no-go zones. Hardly matters if ALL of it is no go, or just parts of it. NONE of it should be no go zones.

Then it will be remarkably easy for you to show us those 'YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)' that Dearborn Michigan is a Muslim 'no-go' zone.

Show us. Don't tell us. This is number 1 on your list, so I'm tossing a slow, underhanded softball of a case.

Or.....will you give us yet more excuses why you can't?

 

[protectionist]

"Bust Up the US No Go Zones"

This is ignorant and ridiculous, given the fact 'no go zones' are a myth, a lie contrived by some on the right with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims and Islam.

The statement that no go zones is a myth, is a myth (and a stupid one) itself. There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America. They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University, the United Muslim-Christian Forum, the Islamic Post newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America, the Hands to Hands charity, Muslim Vets, the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team, and the Islamic Naat Group. A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

2. Islamberg, Hancock, NY - Islamberg is the 70-acre headquarters of Muslims of the Americas, the International Quranic Open University and the United Muslim Christian Forum. These organizations are led by a radical cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Islamberg originally had a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood

3. Gwynn Oak, Baltimore, Maryland, consisting of Muslim immigrants and African-American converts. The project is led by John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative. Cason explained that the neighborhood is a response to the problem that “Muslim communities are ruled by Western societal tenets, many of which clash with Islamic norms.” In his opinion, there is a need for communities with “the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.” As such, the Gwynn Oak enclave follows specific moral rules based on Islam and people there speak Arabic. On September 13, 2009, the construction of its three-story mosque began. Approximately 400 Muslims now live in the vicinity.

4. Islamic Center for Human Excellence, Little Rock, Arkansas - receives funding from the United Arab Emirates. In August 2004, it was granted permission to build a Muslim neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, complete with a mosque, school, and 22 homes; it would not allow the presence of alcohol. The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life, although the imam behind the effort said that non-Muslims are welcome to join. (if they become Muslims)

5. Holy Islamville, York County, SC - A 2004 report funded by the Justice Department identifies York County, S.C. as a “training compound” for Muslims of the Americas.[3] A 2006 report for law enforcement on the organization also said that York County, S.C. is home to one of at least seven “covert paramilitary training compounds.”[4] In 2010, nearby residents told a local newspaper that they had seen armed guards patrolling Islamville and that they sometimes heard gunfire at night.[5] The sound of gunfire coming from Islamville was recorded in November 2009, March 2011 and May 2011. A local resident reported the sounds of explosions on January 26, 2012 and April 6, 2012.[6]

6. Aliville, Odum, GA - a commune with a street named “Mecca Circle” that is believed to be run by Muslims of the Americas.

Others exist in >>

7.Red House, VA,

8.Hyattsville, MD, Falls Church, VA,

9. Macon, GA,

10. Dover, TN,

11. Buena Vista, CO,

12. Talihina, OK

13. Tulare Country, CA

14. Commerce. CA

15. Onalaska, WA

16. Sherman, PA Just to name a few

And where, pray tell, is the Muslim 'no-go' zone you speak of? As every single source you cited is under US legal jurisdiction with US law still applying.

That's the point. On paper, US law is supposed to apply. But it doesn't, inside the enclaves, and this is being protected by the US govt, when it shouldn't be.

So you say. And this is where your argument breaks. You can't back that claim up with evidence. You're offering us a list of cities. But nothing to indicate that those cities are what you claim they are.

I've followed several of your links. And they're more statements of affirmative opinion. But not actual evidence. And given that your last 'muslim no go zone' fantasy thread was based on the ramblings of Steve Emerson.....a man so spectacularly clueless that even Fox News condemned his inane 'no go zone' ramblings, with Emerson himself issuing an apology and admitting his ignorance....I'm gonna need more than unsubstantiated lists.

So what have you got?

Or let me make this simpler for you. Prove that Dearborn Michigan is a muslim 'no go zone'. I suspect that you'll cite a fist fight from a 2012 youtube video. But not actual evidence backing your claim.

I just answered your ignorant comment about Emerson. No need to repeat. We already realize you know nothing about Emerson. And if you'd like to have me describe one of his trouncings of jihadists, just say the the word, and you shall have it.

I think every state has an Army National Guard unit, and state police dept.. They can get logistical info from the Dept of Homeland Security, the Justice dept, and other govt units, as described in the links (which you all seem to have not read, judging by the very comments you're posting.

 

[Skylar]

"Bust Up the US No Go Zones"

This is ignorant and ridiculous, given the fact 'no go zones' are a myth, a lie contrived by some on the right with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims and Islam.

The statement that no go zones is a myth, is a myth (and a stupid one) itself. There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America. They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University, the United Muslim-Christian Forum, the Islamic Post newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America, the Hands to Hands charity, Muslim Vets, the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team, and the Islamic Naat Group. A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

2. Islamberg, Hancock, NY - Islamberg is the 70-acre headquarters of Muslims of the Americas, the International Quranic Open University and the United Muslim Christian Forum. These organizations are led by a radical cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Islamberg originally had a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood

3. Gwynn Oak, Baltimore, Maryland, consisting of Muslim immigrants and African-American converts. The project is led by John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative. Cason explained that the neighborhood is a response to the problem that “Muslim communities are ruled by Western societal tenets, many of which clash with Islamic norms.” In his opinion, there is a need for communities with “the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.” As such, the Gwynn Oak enclave follows specific moral rules based on Islam and people there speak Arabic. On September 13, 2009, the construction of its three-story mosque began. Approximately 400 Muslims now live in the vicinity.

4. Islamic Center for Human Excellence, Little Rock, Arkansas - receives funding from the United Arab Emirates. In August 2004, it was granted permission to build a Muslim neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, complete with a mosque, school, and 22 homes; it would not allow the presence of alcohol. The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life, although the imam behind the effort said that non-Muslims are welcome to join. (if they become Muslims)

5. Holy Islamville, York County, SC - A 2004 report funded by the Justice Department identifies York County, S.C. as a “training compound” for Muslims of the Americas.[3] A 2006 report for law enforcement on the organization also said that York County, S.C. is home to one of at least seven “covert paramilitary training compounds.”[4] In 2010, nearby residents told a local newspaper that they had seen armed guards patrolling Islamville and that they sometimes heard gunfire at night.[5] The sound of gunfire coming from Islamville was recorded in November 2009, March 2011 and May 2011. A local resident reported the sounds of explosions on January 26, 2012 and April 6, 2012.[6]

6. Aliville, Odum, GA - a commune with a street named “Mecca Circle” that is believed to be run by Muslims of the Americas.

Others exist in >>

7.Red House, VA,

8.Hyattsville, MD, Falls Church, VA,

9. Macon, GA,

10. Dover, TN,

11. Buena Vista, CO,

12. Talihina, OK

13. Tulare Country, CA

14. Commerce. CA

15. Onalaska, WA

16. Sherman, PA Just to name a few

And where, pray tell, is the Muslim 'no-go' zone you speak of? As every single source you cited is under US legal jurisdiction with US law still applying.

That's the point. On paper, US law is supposed to apply. But it doesn't, inside the enclaves, and this is being protected by the US govt, when it shouldn't be.

So you say. And this is where your argument breaks. You can't back that claim up with evidence. You're offering us a list of cities. But nothing to indicate that those cities are what you claim they are.

I've followed several of your links. And they're more statements of affirmative opinion. But not actual evidence. And given that your last 'muslim no go zone' fantasy thread was based on the ramblings of Steve Emerson.....a man so spectacularly clueless that even Fox News condemned his inane 'no go zone' ramblings, with Emerson himself issuing an apology and admitting his ignorance....I'm gonna need more than unsubstantiated lists.

So what have you got?

Or let me make this simpler for you. Prove that Dearborn Michigan is a muslim 'no go zone'. I suspect that you'll cite a fist fight from a 2012 youtube video. But not actual evidence backing your claim.

I just answered your ignorant comment about Emerson. No need to repeat. We already realize you know nothing about Emerson. And if you'd like to have me describe one of his trouncings of jihadists, just say the the word, and you shall have it.

Every state has an Army National Guard unit. They can get logistical info from the Dept of Homeland Security, the Justice dept, and other govt units, as described in the links (which you all seem to have not read, judging by the very coments you're posting.

Emerson the man that just apologized for his spectacularly ignorant statement about Muslim no-go zones...is your source on muslim no-go zones? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same guy.

And for the third time....and its getting ridiculously obvious that you have exactly jack shit to back up the claim......show us those 'YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)' that Dearborn Michigan is a Muslim 'no-go' zone.

If you can't manage that with the number one city on your list, then surely you can understand if the rest of your list loses a tremendous amount of credibility.

 

[Clementine]

The left is so quick to cite religious freedom when a Muslim insists on sharia law over our laws. The women don't want to remove their burkas for photo IDs and one woman is suing the police dept because they made her remove it after she was arrested. Of course, CAIR lawyers jumped in and are bitching that her religious freedom was violated.

What we need to remember is that with Muslims, their religion and government are inseparable. When they claim religious freedom, they are actually saying that the laws, women's rights and individual freedoms of our country are wrong and they do not wish to follow them.

Allowing them to control areas where other people are expected to behave as if they are entering another country is something we should not tolerate. There are other religions and people in this country should not be expected to have laws imposed on them by radicals. Muslims do act like we have to bend over for them because their religion finds us and our customs intolerable. One woman had a bacon billboard taken down because if offended here. Muslim taxi drivers won't take passengers who were drinking or blind people with seeing eye dogs. Muslim workers won't touch pork products so other workers pick up the slack.

It's getting real old. We should never have to be imposed upon in this manner. Come to America, take it as is or get the hell out. We eat bacon, we have laws regarding photo IDs and mug shots. We have security at airports that might involve body searches. If your religion forbids any of these things, stay the hell away.

 

[Skylar]

The left is so quick to cite religious freedom when a Muslim insists on sharia law over our laws.

Who is this 'left'? Or is this like the boards 'communists' where it best not to ask any specific questions or ask for any names?

I soundly reject religious supremecy over civil law. For both muslims wanting to practice sharia. And for Christians looking to have themselves exempted from PA laws.

 

[protectionist]

If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir

That's not what the article says. I read French. It does talk about using the army but it says nothing about the existence of your comic book fantasy zones.

FALSE! It says exactly what I said it says. Would you like me to present the English translation ?

By all means, yes. And the translation needs to be verifiable, as your sources are notoriously unreliable. The last 'muslim no-go zone' myth thread you started used Steve Emerson as your primary source. The hapless idiot that even Fox News denounced when he started babbling about exactly this topic.

HA HA. My sources are unreliable ? Andrew McCarthy, lead prosecutor in the 1993 World Trade Center terrorist bombing. The sources are only unreliable. only according to your unreliable Islamapologist media, which doesn't even report Islamization at all. As I said in Post # 15 >>>

INVALIDATION is hard-wired into Islamapologiststs.

As for Emerson, he is a longtime EXCELLENT protectionist, and I could give examples of where he has exposed Islamists, if not raked them over the coals (available on request). So he made a slight mistake in his wording about Birmingham. That's not a big deal. Everybody makes these little mistakes from time to time. Let he who is 100% correct, always, cast the first stone.

What the silly critics are missing, is that Emerson's statement, was very meaningful, with or without his slight error. Birmingham DOES have many no-go zones. Hardly matters if ALL of it is no go, or just parts of it. NONE of it should be no go zones.

Then it will be remarkably easy for you to show us those 'YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)' that Dearborn Michigan is a Muslim 'no-go' zone.

Show us. Don't tell us. This is number 1 on your list, so I'm tossing a slow, underhanded softball of a case.

Or.....will you give us yet more excuses why you can't?

I don't HAVE TO show you what is common knowledge (unless you're a liberal who has been sheltered from Islamization information) And it's all in my links, and their links. Want me to hold your hand too ? What is public info, you need me to show you ? NO, you don't.

So, if the National Guards and state cops close down the enclaves

 

[Skylar]

That's not what the article says. I read French. It does talk about using the army but it says nothing about the existence of your comic book fantasy zones.

FALSE! It says exactly what I said it says. Would you like me to present the English translation ?

By all means, yes. And the translation needs to be verifiable, as your sources are notoriously unreliable. The last 'muslim no-go zone' myth thread you started used Steve Emerson as your primary source. The hapless idiot that even Fox News denounced when he started babbling about exactly this topic.

HA HA. My sources are unreliable ? Andrew McCarthy, lead prosecutor in the 1993 World Trade Center terrorist bombing. The sources are only unreliable. only according to your unreliable Islamapologist media, which doesn't even report Islamization at all. As I said in Post # 15 >>>

INVALIDATION is hard-wired into Islamapologiststs.

As for Emerson, he is a longtime EXCELLENT protectionist, and I could give examples of where he has exposed Islamists, if not raked them over the coals (available on request). So he made a slight mistake in his wording about Birmingham. That's not a big deal. Everybody makes these little mistakes from time to time. Let he who is 100% correct, always, cast the first stone.

What the silly critics are missing, is that Emerson's statement, was very meaningful, with or without his slight error. Birmingham DOES have many no-go zones. Hardly matters if ALL of it is no go, or just parts of it. NONE of it should be no go zones.

Then it will be remarkably easy for you to show us those 'YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)' that Dearborn Michigan is a Muslim 'no-go' zone.

Show us. Don't tell us. This is number 1 on your list, so I'm tossing a slow, underhanded softball of a case.

Or.....will you give us yet more excuses why you can't?

I don't HAVE TO show you what is common knowledge (unless you're a liberal who has been sheltered from Islamization information) And it's all in my links, and their links. Want me to hold your hand too ? What is public info, you need me to show you ? NO, you don't.

So, if the National Guards and state cops close down the enclaves

Laughing.....So, 'YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)'....except Dearborn. Gee, exactly as I predicted, excuses for why you can't back up your bullshit. How did I know that was coming?

Lets try another city on your list.

Show us the ''YEARS of DOCUMENTED reports of the US govt (DOJ & DHS)'' that Gwynn Oak is a Muslim 'no go zone'. Or shall we add that to Dearborn on the list of nonsense you can't possibly back up and save us both some time?

 

[Pogo]

The left is so quick to cite religious freedom when a Muslim insists on sharia law over our laws. The women don't want to remove their burkas for photo IDs and one woman is suing the police dept because they made her remove it after she was arrested. Of course, CAIR lawyers jumped in and are bitching that her religious freedom was violated.

What we need to remember is that with Muslims, their religion and government are inseparable. When they claim religious freedom, they are actually saying that the laws, women's rights and individual freedoms of our country are wrong and they do not wish to follow them.

Allowing them to control areas where other people are expected to behave as if they are entering another country is something we should not tolerate. There are other religions and people in this country should not be expected to have laws imposed on them by radicals. Muslims do act like we have to bend over for them because their religion finds us and our customs intolerable. One woman had a bacon billboard taken down because if offended here. Muslim taxi drivers won't take passengers who were drinking or blind people with seeing eye dogs. Muslim workers won't touch pork products so other workers pick up the slack.

It's getting real old. We should never have to be imposed upon in this manner. Come to America, take it as is or get the hell out. We eat bacon, we have laws regarding photo IDs and mug shots. We have security at airports that might involve body searches. If your religion forbids any of these things, stay the hell away.

Charming rant -- unfortunately this thread isn't about Mooooslims or Sharia or religion at all. This thread is about Gullible's Travels and how some will swallow whatever conspiratorial theory they find on the internets that equate to "scary monster stories I like" without a shred of substance backing it up, apparently unaware that such vetting is even needed.

As for all those incidents in the rest of your post, well you're gonna need links. Have fun trying to round them up. Might be an eye opener.