Bu-But Trump Wasn't Hitler the Last Time...

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This is what we hear from trump supporters or those who claim to be neutral but happen to defend trump in every instance. Apparently they never watched the interviews from members of the trump administration who detail the things trump wanted to do but they stopped it from happening. These people won't be around next time and the supreme court has given him absolute immunity.

No One Listens to the President​

Trump keeps issuing orders, and staffers keep ignoring them because they’re illegal or unwise. It’s an unsustainable situation—but it shows no sign of abating.

It’s been another dizzying few days in Washington, starting with yet another border controversy, as President Donald Trump threatened to bus unauthorized immigrants to sanctuary cities, and ending with the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report, which turned out to be far more damning than advertised by Trump’s attorney general.

These two very different stories have more in common than meets the eye. In each case, there’s a central tension between the president and aides who refuse to execute orders from him that they believe are illegal or foolish. Mueller’s report is packed with incidents in which White House staff not only didn’t do things Trump said, but never had any intention of doing them. In the case of the border, Immigration and Customs Enforcement staff rebuffed Trump’s plan to bus migrants on legal grounds; meanwhile, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Kevin McAleenan refused to turn away migrants seeking asylum, concluding that it was illegal. (Nielsen was sacked soon after, while McAleenan is now her acting replacement.)

In essence, executive-branch employees are hearing orders from Trump and responding, I don’t have to listen to you—you’re just the president. On the one hand, the constitutional system depends on the president executing the law and executive-branch employees following his directives; after all, he is the elected representative of the American people, and they are civil servants. On the other hand, so many of Trump’s orders are in fact illegal or dangerous that it’s difficult to fault staffers who don’t want to endanger the country or legally expose themselves by executing them.

Considering the incidents that are detailed, it’s no wonder. Sometimes aides didn’t want to follow orders that would require them to lie—as when Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein refused to say that firing FBI Director James Comey was his idea. At other times, they resisted orders that would violate government guidelines, as when then–Attorney General Jeff Sessions refused to cancel his recusal on Russia-related matters. And in some cases, they refused to do things to protect Trump from his own worst impulses, as when then–Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told the president he’d ask Sessions to resign, but just didn’t do it.

The acme, or the nadir, of noncompliance came from former White House Counsel Don McGahn, who first refused to fire Mueller and then refused to write a letter denying that he had refused to fire Mueller. Told he might be fired, he was defiant: “McGahn dismissed the threat, saying that the optics would be terrible if the President followed through with firing him on that basis.” McGahn was right, and he wasn’t fired then.

McGahn has since left the administration, though. So have Priebus and Sessions. So, too, have Defense Secretary James Mattis, who, according to Bob Woodward’s Fear, once simply decided to ignore an order to launch airstrikes; and the economic adviser Gary Cohn, who, according to Fear, swiped a letter terminating a trade agreement off Trump’s desk to avoid his signing it. In each case, the departed staffers’ decisions seem wiser than Trump’s, and the fact that the president didn’t seem to notice their sabotage doesn’t speak well to his decision making or attention span.


You can play this off if you want to because its from The AtlantIc but:

The Atlantic – Bias and Credibility

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  • Overall, we rate The Atlantic Left-Center Biased due to editorial positions and High for factual reporting based on excellent sourcing of information and a clean fact-check record.
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The Atlantic is "left-center"....ROFLMFAO!!!

The demented Kumdumpster schmucks have completely shot their impotent wad, if all they have left is ORANGE MAN HITLER!!

It's as though they expected their opponent to be dead.

rated ' left-center ' only because of the loaded words they use ... kinda like when one reads the OP/ED of any given paper vs - the actual reported news within that paper.

AND - that does not take away their rating for...



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FACTUAL REPORTING ...


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which is rated HIGH.
 
rated ' left-center ' only because of the loaded words they use ... kinda like when one reads the OP/ED of any given paper vs - the actual reported news within that paper.

AND - that does not take away their rating for...



...


FACTUAL REPORTING ...


....


which is rated HIGH.
It is difficult to believe Progs. In a not so good time, your lies will set into motion the events that will kill millions of your own in the beginning part of it.
 
This is what we hear from trump supporters or those who claim to be neutral but happen to defend trump in every instance. Apparently they never watched the interviews from members of the trump administration who detail the things trump wanted to do but they stopped it from happening. These people won't be around next time and the supreme court has given him absolute immunity.

No One Listens to the President​

Trump keeps issuing orders, and staffers keep ignoring them because they’re illegal or unwise. It’s an unsustainable situation—but it shows no sign of abating.

It’s been another dizzying few days in Washington, starting with yet another border controversy, as President Donald Trump threatened to bus unauthorized immigrants to sanctuary cities, and ending with the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report, which turned out to be far more damning than advertised by Trump’s attorney general.

These two very different stories have more in common than meets the eye. In each case, there’s a central tension between the president and aides who refuse to execute orders from him that they believe are illegal or foolish. Mueller’s report is packed with incidents in which White House staff not only didn’t do things Trump said, but never had any intention of doing them. In the case of the border, Immigration and Customs Enforcement staff rebuffed Trump’s plan to bus migrants on legal grounds; meanwhile, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Kevin McAleenan refused to turn away migrants seeking asylum, concluding that it was illegal. (Nielsen was sacked soon after, while McAleenan is now her acting replacement.)

In essence, executive-branch employees are hearing orders from Trump and responding, I don’t have to listen to you—you’re just the president. On the one hand, the constitutional system depends on the president executing the law and executive-branch employees following his directives; after all, he is the elected representative of the American people, and they are civil servants. On the other hand, so many of Trump’s orders are in fact illegal or dangerous that it’s difficult to fault staffers who don’t want to endanger the country or legally expose themselves by executing them.

Considering the incidents that are detailed, it’s no wonder. Sometimes aides didn’t want to follow orders that would require them to lie—as when Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein refused to say that firing FBI Director James Comey was his idea. At other times, they resisted orders that would violate government guidelines, as when then–Attorney General Jeff Sessions refused to cancel his recusal on Russia-related matters. And in some cases, they refused to do things to protect Trump from his own worst impulses, as when then–Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told the president he’d ask Sessions to resign, but just didn’t do it.

The acme, or the nadir, of noncompliance came from former White House Counsel Don McGahn, who first refused to fire Mueller and then refused to write a letter denying that he had refused to fire Mueller. Told he might be fired, he was defiant: “McGahn dismissed the threat, saying that the optics would be terrible if the President followed through with firing him on that basis.” McGahn was right, and he wasn’t fired then.

McGahn has since left the administration, though. So have Priebus and Sessions. So, too, have Defense Secretary James Mattis, who, according to Bob Woodward’s Fear, once simply decided to ignore an order to launch airstrikes; and the economic adviser Gary Cohn, who, according to Fear, swiped a letter terminating a trade agreement off Trump’s desk to avoid his signing it. In each case, the departed staffers’ decisions seem wiser than Trump’s, and the fact that the president didn’t seem to notice their sabotage doesn’t speak well to his decision making or attention span.


You can play this off if you want to because its from The AtlantIc but:

The Atlantic – Bias and Credibility

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  • Overall, we rate The Atlantic Left-Center Biased due to editorial positions and High for factual reporting based on excellent sourcing of information and a clean fact-check record.
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It is difficult to believe Progs. In a not so good time, your lies will set into motion the events that will kill millions of your own in the beginning part of it.

what lies might that be?
what events?
beginning part of what exactly?
 
rated ' left-center ' only because of the loaded words they use ... kinda like when one reads the OP/ED of any given paper vs - the actual reported news within that paper.

AND - that does not take away their rating for...



...


FACTUAL REPORTING ...


....


which is rated HIGH.
They can dismiss what was written all they want, but like you said... the credibility.
 
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Trump has NOTHING in common with Hitler.
Apprently you didn't study Germany before Hitler or how or why Hitler came to power.

Hitler had huge rallies and spoke for hours just like Trump, but it is the Generals who studied war and people like Hitler who have said Trump was like Hitler. Those Generals know more about those things than either of us.
 
Apprently you didn't study Germany before Hitler or how or why Hitler came to power.

Hitler had huge rallies and spoke for hours just like Trump, but it is the Generals who studied war and people like Hitler who have said Trump was like Hitler. Those Generals know more about those things than either of us.
So, big rallies make one Hitler?

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Apprently you didn't study Germany before Hitler or how or why Hitler came to power.
Oh lordy, don't tell me why Hitler came into power. I already know. He came into power because the reparations from World War I destroyed the German economy. He came into power because of that and also because he wanted to reclaim territory to reclaim what Germany lost during World War I.
 
Yes, IM2 is a Marxist who calls Trump Hitler.
Have you ever read Marx little boy? Or is this another slogan you repeat that you get told.

Trump IS like Hitler. Little boy, you were having wet dreams when trump took office. The most important issue to you was getting a date to the prom. I was a grown ass man working when Trump took office. While you were trying to be popular with the other kids or playing on your x box, I was paying attention to what Trump was doing. Members of his own staff stopped him from doing crazy things that would have caused great harm. THEY are the ones who saved us from war. They are the ones that stopped trump from sending troops to the border, which violated the law. They are the ones that stopped trump from invoking the insurrection act in cities. Trump put Michael Cohen in solitary because he refused trumps demand that he not write his first book. Trump fired Alexander Vidnman for testfying to congress abouthis extrtion of Ukraine. Trump demnded a loyaty pledge from his cabinet members. Trump got angry wth Sessions becuse Sessions did not act as his personal fixer when he ws AG. Trump had William Barr stop criminal cases against his cronies. I can keep going with what Trump was doing while you were in the lunchroom.

You don't know what Marxism is and you definitely have no clue of what trump did while he was president.
 
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