BREAKING: What if Ukraine surrenders to Moscow empire , It will be the greatest betrayal of a European ally since Poland in 1945

ā€œ[Putin] doesn’t feel any threat that he’ll be held accountable.
Ceasefires?
Do you know what ceasefires are for him?
An opportunity to reload, an opportunity to pick more targets.ā€

- Pete Hegseth (2022)

a good point ...
 
I understand the personal hysteria of the Russians here.

Their handlers are watching.

If they don't step up the quality of their propaganda, they might end up getting sent to the Ukraine front.

That brings up a moral dilemna. If we keep on humiliating the Putin-lackeys here, and they get sent to the front, are we responsible for their deaths?
 
Ukraine is more realistic and it is willing to trade territories with Russia. Zelensky proposed a land swap, by which Ukraine may reclaim an eastern region in exchange for Kursk that is partly occupied by Ukraine. Pro-war hawks in the EU don't care about more Cossacks dying for a lost cause.



Zelenskyy revealed in an hour-long interview earlier this week that he intended to propose a straightforward territorial exchange with Russia to facilitate an end to the war, including the transfer of Ukrainian-held pockets of Kursk.

ā€œWe will swap one territory for another,ā€ Zelenskyy said, adding that he did not know which part of Russian-occupied territory Ukraine would ask for back. ā€œI don’t know, we will see. But all our territories are important, there is no priority,ā€ he said.

 
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Ukraine is more realistic and it is willing to trade territories with Russia. Zelensky proposed a land swap, by which Ukraine may reclaim an eastern region in exchange for Kursk that is partly occupied by Ukraine.



Zelenskyy revealed in an hour-long interview earlier this week that he intended to propose a straightforward territorial exchange with Russia to facilitate an end to the war, including the transfer of Ukrainian-held pockets of Kursk.

ā€œWe will swap one territory for another,ā€ Zelenskyy said, adding that he did not know which part of Russian-occupied territory Ukraine would ask for back. ā€œI don’t know, we will see. But all our territories are important, there is no priority,ā€ he said.


šŸ‡·šŸ‡ŗ ivan, What the hell is going on anymore x2
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I understand the personal hysteria of the Russians here.

Their handlers are watching.

If they don't step up the quality of their propaganda, they might end up getting sent to the Ukraine front.

That brings up a moral dilemna. If we keep on humiliating the Putin-lackeys here, and they get sent to the front, are we responsible for their deaths?
ā€œAn appeaser is one who feeds a šŸ‡·šŸ‡ŗ crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.ā€

- Winston Churchill


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Well said most of the people in Britain Support the brave people of Ukraine . Always give a bully what they want, so they will stop bullying? Who in their right mind believes that? Giving a bully what they want only convinces the bully that bullying works and they bully some more.


Davey is almost as stupid as you are, mistake you make is you are talking to people like me who know what they are talking about and not the Zombified herd, the war isn't like 1939 it's more like 1941 when the Nazis invaded Ukraine and within days they with their Ukrainian helpers started murdering thousands of Jews.
 

Speaking of the so called security conference in Munich Zelenskey had to bring something to the table so he brought yet another false flag about a attack on Chernobyl all designed to sabotage any Trump peace deal, in 2007 when Putin was at that Munich conference he stated a red line for Russia was Ukraine in Nato, and in 1990 the Americans gave their word there would be no further expansion out of a unified Germany, that went well,
 
Genius negotiator Trump opened negotiations, as he always does, with abject unconditional surrender.

His opening offer was that Russia keeps all conquered terrority, forever, and Ukraine can't join NATO or get any security guarantees. Trump will make more concessions from that.

I just hope that, if Trump gives away pieces of the USA to Russia, he'll at least give away the red states that love Russia.
a good point here:

 
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Ukraine
  1. wanted to give Crimea to NATO,
  2. used Nazis to kill ethnic Russians in Donbas
  3. thought it was a good idea to let Vicky Nuland place bioweapond labs
  4. ignored every warning by Russia
Yet still thinks they're completely blameless

And now tells us that $100 Billion of our "aid" is "missing"

 
Ukraine
  1. wanted to give Crimea to NATO,
  2. used Nazis to kill ethnic Russians in Donbas
  3. thought it was a good idea to let Vicky Nuland place bioweapond labs
  4. ignored every warning by Russia
Yet still thinks they're completely blameless

And now tells us that $100 Billion of our "aid" is "missing"


The ones who make me sick are the MSM they have lied about what has happened in Ukraine since 2014 and the scum are still lying i am listening to LBC at the moment and according to them this war started in 2022 and ignore what took place for the eleven years before as if it never happened, the same filth have supported head hacking thugs in Syria for years so supporting some plastic Nazis in Ukraine won't bother them including Bozo the clown Johnson meeting Azov Nazis in Parliament.
 
The ones who make me sick are the MSM they have lied about what has happened in Ukraine since 2014 and the scum are still lying i am listening to LBC at the moment and according to them this war started in 2022 and ignore what took place for the eleven years before as if it never happened, the same filth have supported head hacking thugs in Syria for years so supporting some plastic Nazis in Ukraine won't bother them including Bozo the clown Johnson meeting Azov Nazis in Parliament.
It’s because Born in Kenya Barack was behind it
 
It’s because Born in Kenya Barack was behind it
The whole Western establishment were behind it, they thought the time was right to try and break up Russia and plunder it, people talk about WW3, well i believe that started with the attack on Yugoslavia, at that time Russia was weak led by a drunken asshole so NATO did smell blood at the time.
 
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