AlexanderPK
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Isn't that the same trigger that could get Americans to lose even more money than Russia would, or in your fantasy world the laws of nature apply anywhere but America?
BREAKING: What if Ukraine surrenders to Moscow empire , It will be the greatest betrayal of a European ally since Poland in 1945
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Litwin
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Kyzr, you can read my mind. Trump is an American Lukašenka, he has adapted byzantine diplomacy toward Moscow empire. He knows that
appeasement has never worked , and his plan to finish off Moscow- Mongol imperial project with low oil - gas prices . Donald Trump wants to cut global oil prices in half ( ITS less than 30 $ US for Urals ) ... if he does so , Moscow 
empire won´t survive his 4 years in the office ...
On Russia, Biden should learn from Reagan how economic warfare is done
Countries resistance to President Biden’s pleas ought to be a clear signal of how badly he is managing international issues. He could learn a lot from Reagan on effectively conducting economi…
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In four months, Saudi extraction rose from two million to 10 million barrels a day, and prices plummeted from $32 a barrel to $10. For the USSR’s economy - already accustomed to exorbitant incomes from its oil, this was a death blow. in 1986 alone, the USSR lost more than $20 billion (approximately 7.5% of the USSR’s annual income), and it already had a budget deficit.
But Saudi Arabia’s economy was also punished because of the low prices! Why did they do it? Allen’s opinion is that Casey offered the sheiks financial reparations in exchange for the move; this opinion is backed up by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron – all American companies.
The Soviet Union plunged into recession following the 1985-1986 oil crisis. It was enough for the already unhealthy, command-style Soviet economy to crumble. In 1986, USSR’s external loans were about $30 billion; by 1989 they had reached $50 billion.
... The US predictably profited: in 1986, American gas stations even gave away free petrol for advertising.
The oil crisis significantly helped the US win the Cold War against the USSR: the economic recession led Mikhail Gorbachev to make hugely unpopular political decisions. An attempt to reform the governmental system (known as Perestroika) was largely hopeless due to the lack of funds. Gorbachev’s populist rhetoric didn’t play well with an impoverished population. They demanded responsibility for the government’s short-sighted actions, and that’s when Boris Yeltsin came in with his harsh critique of the Soviet system at large. By the end of the 1980s, the collapse of the Soviet EMPIRE was all but inevitable.
How Saudi Arabia’s oil policy triggered the collapse of the USSR
Saudi Arabia has recently launched an oil price war that affects the global economy. Previously, the same measures contributed to the collapse of the...
Litwin
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Donald Trump knows that
empire won´t survive his 4 years in the office ...
On Russia, Biden should learn from Reagan how economic warfare is done
Countries resistance to President Biden’s pleas ought to be a clear signal of how badly he is managing international issues. He could learn a lot from Reagan on effectively conducting economi…
nypost.com
In four months, Saudi extraction rose from two million to 10 million barrels a day, and prices plummeted from $32 a barrel to $10. For the USSR’s economy - already accustomed to exorbitant incomes from its oil, this was a death blow. in 1986 alone, the USSR lost more than $20 billion (approximately 7.5% of the USSR’s annual income), and it already had a budget deficit.
But Saudi Arabia’s economy was also punished because of the low prices! Why did they do it? Allen’s opinion is that Casey offered the sheiks financial reparations in exchange for the move; this opinion is backed up by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron – all American companies.
The Soviet Union plunged into recession following the 1985-1986 oil crisis. It was enough for the already unhealthy, command-style Soviet economy to crumble. In 1986, USSR’s external loans were about $30 billion; by 1989 they had reached $50 billion.
... The US predictably profited: in 1986, American gas stations even gave away free petrol for advertising.
The oil crisis significantly helped the US win the Cold War against the USSR: the economic recession led Mikhail Gorbachev to make hugely unpopular political decisions. An attempt to reform the governmental system (known as Perestroika) was largely hopeless due to the lack of funds. Gorbachev’s populist rhetoric didn’t play well with an impoverished population. They demanded responsibility for the government’s short-sighted actions, and that’s when Boris Yeltsin came in with his harsh critique of the Soviet system at large. By the end of the 1980s, the collapse of the Soviet EMPIRE was all but inevitable.
How Saudi Arabia’s oil policy triggered the collapse of the USSR
Saudi Arabia has recently launched an oil price war that affects the global economy. Previously, the same measures contributed to the collapse of the...
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How Saudi Arabia’s oil policy triggered the collapse of the USSR
Saudi Arabia has recently launched an oil price war that affects the global economy. Previously, the same measures contributed to the collapse of the...
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LordBrownTrout
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Good deal. No more hundreds of billions of our money being squandered.
news.yahoo.com
Trump upends US policy on Ukraine and says he and Putin have agreed to begin talks on ending the war
President Donald Trump upended three years of U.S. policy toward Ukraine on Wednesday, saying that he and Russian leader Vladimir Putin had agreed to begin negotiations on ending the war following a sudden prisoner swap. Trump said he spent more than an hour on the phone with Putin and “I think...
Litwin
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we will see.Good deal. No more hundreds of billions of our money being squandered.
Trump upends US policy on Ukraine and says he and Putin have agreed to begin talks on ending the war
President Donald Trump upended three years of U.S. policy toward Ukraine on Wednesday, saying that he and Russian leader Vladimir Putin had agreed to begin negotiations on ending the war following a sudden prisoner swap. Trump said he spent more than an hour on the phone with Putin and “I think...
On Russia, Biden should learn from Reagan how economic warfare is done
Countries resistance to President Biden’s pleas ought to be a clear signal of how badly he is managing international issues. He could learn a lot from Reagan on effectively conducting economi…
nypost.com
Litwin
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Moscow imperial economy is badly damaged ....
Russian Economy is on the Brink of Collapse
As the war in Ukraine goes into a stalemate, the domestic situation with Russia also enters into great uncertainty.
moderndiplomacy.eu
LordBrownTrout
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Mac1958
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Incredible. But not surprising at this point.
China, I'm sure you saw this.
China, I'm sure you saw this.
Litwin
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Good deal. No more hundreds of billions of our money being squandered.
Trump upends US policy on Ukraine and says he and Putin have agreed to begin talks on ending the war
President Donald Trump upended three years of U.S. policy toward Ukraine on Wednesday, saying that he and Russian leader Vladimir Putin had agreed to begin negotiations on ending the war following a sudden prisoner swap. Trump said he spent more than an hour on the phone with Putin and “I think...
kyzr
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We have our own oil and gas thank you very much. So how would we lose money getting an end to the war in Ukraine?
SeaMajor7
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Trump ending the war and disclosing massive fraud has got the demented LEFT all sorts of big mad.
AlexanderPK
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What did you think I was talking about? It costs money to get those out from underground, doesn't it? When out that gas and oil are supposed to be sold, the higher the price the better. And now, all of a sudden, your business people are so altruistic that they all forget about their losses and are pumping oil just to please hohols and dimwits like you, right? Hey, while they're at it why don't you ask them to cover your mortgage or student loan?
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kyzr
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I'm not sure what your argument is?
I want Trump to threaten a boycott on Russian oil to get Putin to the peace table. That's all.
We all know Putin's only revenue stream is oil & gas sales.
Oil is $70 a bbl. Any price above $40 a bbl is good for US producers. Ending the war in Ukraine is worth altruism.
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