BREAKING : Vance Wields Threat of Sanctions, Military Action to Push putin Into Ukraine Deal

[Litwin]

as I expected, so guys what do you think ?



Timothy Snyder: "The West Needs To Abandon The Fantasy That There's Anything We Can Say Or Do To "Make Moscow empire Normal"


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ook_odd_and_scary_but_we_cant_control_it.html

 

[theHawk]

The borders of Ukraine are going to get redrawn.

Deal with it.

 

[kyzr]

The borders of Ukraine are going to get redrawn. Deal with it.

True. But the war will end or Trump tightens the screws on Russia's oil revenue.

 

[Litwin]

The borders of Ukraine are going to get redrawn.

Deal with it.

The borders of Moscow - Mongol horde are going to get redrawn.


Deal with it.

 

[Litwin]

Trump tightens the screws on Russia's oil revenue.

The Republican and Democrat elites want decolonization, oil revenue is maybe the shortest , easiest way

 

[Lesh]

So Vance is threatening WAR??

 

[White 6]

as I expected, so guys what do you think ?



Timothy Snyder: "The West Needs To Abandon The Fantasy That There's Anything We Can Say Or Do To "Make Moscow empire Normal"


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ook_odd_and_scary_but_we_cant_control_it.html

Just more reaction over the Hegseth public statement screwup, that he had to walk back. Looks like Maj Hegseth (the Fox News host) doesn't get to call negotiation policy position at the table.

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/vance-wields-threat-of-sanctions-military-action-to-push-putin-into-ukraine-deal-da9c18ac

 

[Zincwarrior]

as I expected, so guys what do you think ?



Timothy Snyder: "The West Needs To Abandon The Fantasy That There's Anything We Can Say Or Do To "Make Moscow empire Normal"


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ook_odd_and_scary_but_we_cant_control_it.html

Ukrainians should be fleeing. Trump's election gives Putin the equivalent of ten new tank divisions.

 

[Litwin]

So Vance is threatening WAR??

the only language which Mongol - Moscow horde understands

I am convinced that there is nothing they (Muscovites ) admire so much as strength, and there is nothing for which they have less respect than for weakness, especially military weakness.
- Winston Churchill

 

[theHawk]

Ukrainians should be fleeing. Trump's election gives Putin the equivalent of ten new tank divisions.

Ukrainians have already been fleeing since the start of the war. They have no interest in fighting this dumb war. But Dictator Zelensky closed his borders and forced conscription of men.

Like you all, he gets off on sending men to die in a war that he doesn’t have to fight in.

 

[Litwin]

Ukrainians should be fleeing.

they have nowhere to go , they will stay and fight to the end, with US brothers or without

 

[Litwin]

Ukrainians have already been fleeing since the start of the war. They have no interest in fighting this dumb war. But Dictator Zelensky closed his borders and forced conscription of men.

Like you all, he gets off on sending men to die in a war that he doesn’t have to fight in.

RT crap as usual, from THE N1 putin´s cuckold HERE

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Yeah, you do need to grow up and quit relying on everyone to defend you every time. Pathetic.

NATO Sec-Gen Bends to VP Vance: 'You Are Absolutely Right, We Have to Grow Up.'

MUNICH, Germany – Vice President J.D. Vance attended his first bilateral meeting this morning alongside NATO leaders, including Secretary-General Mark

thenationalpulse.com

 

[TimFitz]

Well, let’s see where we are.

Hegsgeth launched things by declaring that Ukraine must agree to give up territory.

Trump doubled down on that, and added the demand thst Ukraine hold elections (a opening up the opportunity for the Russians to try and install a new puppet government)

He also announced that he and Putin would be meeting….without Zelinsky.

The Russians never confirmed Trump’s announcement, leaving the White House hanging.

Zelinsky told Trump to pound sand.

Condemnation of Trump and Hegseth’s duplicity was swift and universal (outside the narrow little Trump cult bubble).

Now Vance is out there half walking it back and going around in circles.

Yet another Trump Administration clown show gone off the rails.

 

[Dragonlady]

The borders of Ukraine are going to get redrawn.

Deal with it.

I don't think so. The EU will not tolerate it. They made that clear to Vance and Rubio. Germany is declaring a state of emergency.

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/scholz-proposes-declaring-state-of-emergency-1739500

NOBODY is going to go along with what your orange clown wants to do, nor will Trump be allowed to negotiate ANYTHING with Putin, by the rest of the world. See the Afghanistan Peace Treaty, which handed the nation over to the Taliban and didn't even include the Afghan government in the negotiations.

Trump is negotiating with Putin. In other words, Trump will give Putin anything he wants, and the Zelensky won't even be consulted.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Zelinsky told Trump to pound sand.

Good.

Then the comical decorator needs no further help from the U.S. and that money can be spent on increasing egg production in the U.S,

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Well, let’s see where we are.

Hegsgeth launched things by declaring that Ukraine must agree to give up territory.

Trump doubled down on that, and added the demand thst Ukraine hold elections (a opening up the opportunity for the Russians to try and install a new puppet government)

He also announced that he and Putin would be meeting….without Zelinsky.

The Russians never confirmed Trump’s announcement, leaving the White House hanging.

Zelinsky told Trump to pound sand.

Condemnation of Trump and Hegseth’s duplicity was swift and universal (outside the narrow little Trump cult bubble).

Now Vance is out there half walking it back and going around in circles.

Yet another Trump Administration clown show gone off the rails.

Lol, but it all started with obama.

"The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking. Russian intelligence intercepted and leaked to the international media a Nuland telephone call in which she and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffey Pyatt discussed in detail their preferences for specific personnel in a post-Yanukovych government. The U.S‑favored candidates included Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power. During the telephone call, Nuland stated enthusiastically that “Yats is the guy” who would do the best job.

Nuland and Pyatt were engaged in such planning at a time when Yanukovych was still Ukraine’s lawful president. It was startling to have diplomatic representatives of a foreign country—and a country that routinely touts the need to respect democratic processes and the sovereignty of other nations—to be scheming about removing an elected government and replacing it with officials meriting U.S. approval."

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I don't think so. The EU will not tolerate it. They made that clear to Vance and Rubio. Germany is declaring a state of emergency.

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/scholz-proposes-declaring-state-of-emergency-1739500

NOBODY is going to go along with what your orange clown wants to do, nor will Trump be allowed to negotiate ANYTHING with Putin, by the rest of the world. See the Afghanistan Peace Treaty, which handed the nation over to the Taliban and didn't even include the Afghan government in the negotiations.

Trump is negotiating with Putin. In other words, Trump will give Putin anything he wants, and the Zelensky won't even be consulted.

The EU is weak. They have no say.

 

[berg80]

The borders of Ukraine are going to get redrawn.

Deal with it.

Senior Republican senator ‘puzzled’ and ‘disturbed’ by Hegseth’s Ukraine remarks​

MUNICH — U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth made a “rookie mistake” when he said a return to Ukraine’s pre-war borders was “unrealistic,” Senate Armed Services Chair Roger Wicker said Friday.

Hegseth on Thursday pulled back some of the comments he made about Ukraine a day earlier, where he said that NATO membership for Kyiv was off the table and that the country could not return to its internationally recognized borders.

Senior Republican senator ‘puzzled’ and ‘disturbed’ by Hegseth’s Ukraine remarks

Senate Armed Services Chair Roger Wicker is breaking with the line from the Trump White House.

www.politico.eu

This won't be the last time Pete steps in shit due to his lack of qualifications.

 

[berg80]

Good.

Then the comical decorator needs no further help from the U.S. and that money can be spent on increasing egg production in the U.S,

Kremlin seeks clarification of JD Vance comment on military levers​

MOSCOW, Feb 14 (Reuters) - The Kremlin said on Friday it hoped the U.S. would clarify remarks by Vice President JD Vance that Washington had military as well as economic levers with which to press Russia to agree a good peace deal with Ukraine.

After Washington faced criticism from some European countries over a call this week between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, Vance said in an interview with the Wall Street Journal ahead of the Munich Security Conference that the U.S. had tools it could use to encourage Russia to reach a settlement to end the war.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-seeks-clarification-jd-vance-comment-military-levers-2025-02-14/

Let the backtracking begin.