BREAKING: President Trump Shares Photos Of Kilmar Abrego Garcia's MS-13 Gang Tattoos

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[Flopper]

How was it "inadmissable?" The judge used it to determine he was a gang member.

You have a link to that version of the story? This is DHS's version:

On December 1, 2022, subject was observed speeding and unable to maintain its lane and was subsequently pulled it over by Trooper of the Tennessee Highway Patrol. Upon approach to the vehicle, encountering officer noted there were eight
other individuals in the vehicle with the subject, who was identified as the driver. Subject stated he was driving "three days ago" (11/27/2022) from Houston, TX to Temple Hills, MD (via St Louis, MO) to bring in people to perform construction work. There was
no luggage in the vehicle, leading the encountering officer to suspect this was a human trafficking incident. All the passengers gave the same home address as the subject's home address. During the interview, subject pretended to speak less English than he was capable of and attempted to put encountering officer off-track by responding to questions with questions. When asked what relationship he had with the registered owner of the vehicle, subject replied that the owner of the vehicle is his boss, and that his work is in construction. Encountering officer decided not to cite the subject for driving infractions but gave him a warning citation for driving with an expired driver's license. Subject's driver's license is a MD "Limited Term Temporary". Encountering officer gathered names of other occupants in vehicle, but could not read their handwriting, but did not pursue further due to no citation being issued. As a result, he did not pass the names, dates of birth and IDs of those individuals. No incident report number was created but the Computer Aided Dispatch number is 622057620.

IMMIGRATION/CRIMINAL HISTORY:

On 10/10/19, IJ issued written decision granting Withholding of Removal.
Per the Prince Georges County Police Gang Unit, ABREGO-Garcia was validated as a member of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS13) Gang.

Subject was identified as a member of the Mara Salvatrucha MS-13, "Chequeo" from the Western Clique a transnational criminal street gang. This information was provided by tested source who has provided truthful accurate information in the past. See Prince Georges County Police Department (Gang Sheet).

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

OFFICIAL USE ONLY | LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE

This document is loaned to you for official use only and remains the property of the Department of Homeland Security. Any further request for disclosure of this document or information contained herein should be referred to HSI Headquarters together with a copy of the document.

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2025/25_0418_hsi_referral-abrego-garcia.pdf

Is that a cut and paste from somewhere you did not link, or did the Former NYPD detective say that to you?

MS-13 arose in the interviewer’s write-up, in which he quoted statements allegedly made by a police informant who, in turn, had heard the information from others—regarding MS-13 gang members. Neither the interviewer nor the confidential informant was available to testify at the hearing. As a result, Judge Jones ruled that the statements constituted double hearsay and were therefore inadmissible.

This document, which was never admitted into evidence by any court, did not actually state that Garcia was a member of MS-13. It merely noted that his appearance and mannerisms were similar to those of known MS-13 members. Nevertheless, subsequent ICE and court documents asserted that he was an MS-13 member, relying primarily on this single report authored by a suspended former police officer.

Judge Jones ultimately granted Garcia “withholding of removal” status, citing a “well-founded fear” of persecution by Barrio 18 in El Salvador. The government did not appeal the decision, making the ruling final and still unchallenged.

The following two links seem very complete and are a pretty good history of Garcia in El Salvador and his battle with US immigration and ICE.

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?

The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Kilmar Ábrego García: Who is the man deported from Maryland to El Salvador?

Officials in the US and El Salvador have been unwilling to return the man home, sparking a legal battle.

www.bbc.com

I don't have a link for the NYPD detective's statement that I heard on a morning show, maybe the Today Show.

 

[Delldude]

MS-13 arose in the interviewer’s write-up, in which he quoted statements allegedly made by a police informant who, in turn, had heard the information from others—regarding MS-13 gang members.

Looking like he's toast on several other fronts.

Keep it up......the Latino vote has been further pushed away for the dems.....

Not coming back....................

 

[Seymour Flops]

MS-13 arose in the interviewer’s write-up, in which he quoted statements allegedly made by a police informant who, in turn, had heard the information from others—regarding MS-13 gang members. Neither the interviewer nor the confidential informant was available to testify at the hearing. As a result, Judge Jones ruled that the statements constituted double hearsay and were therefore inadmissible.

Which judge?

This guy has been in front of several judges, since he's had so much due process.

This document, which was never admitted into evidence by any court, did not actually state that Garcia was a member of MS-13. It merely noted that his appearance and mannerisms were similar to those of known MS-13 members. Nevertheless, subsequent ICE and court documents asserted that he was an MS-13 member, relying primarily on this single report authored by a suspended former police officer.

Yes, gang members don't usually leave much of a paper trail. You cannot just call their HR department for verification of employment. Could he have been convicted on that evidence if it were a crime just to be in MS13? Depends on what witnesses would say. Being arrested in the company of MS13 gang members in a group that had just thrown what turned out to be containers of marijuana would have been evidence.

But no one is trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is MS13. He is clearly a "suspected MS13 gang member," while at the same time is an illegal alien with an order of removal. Plenty of reason to prioritize him for deportation.

Judge Jones ultimately granted Garcia “withholding of removal” status,

That's an incomplete sentence. He was give a "witholding of removal to El Salvador," not a "witholding of removal." He did not have a golden ticket to remain illegally in this country.

citing a “well-founded fear” of persecution by Barrio 18 in El Salvador. The government did not appeal the decision, making the ruling final and still unchallenged.

Of course the Biden administration did not appeal the order, they were interested in keeping all the illegals and bringing in more. The first Trump administration likely moved on to easier to deport people, but this guy was literally caught in gang activity, so the got bumped up the priority list.

The following two links seem very complete and are a pretty good history of Garcia in El Salvador and his battle with US immigration and ICE.

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?

The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Kilmar Ábrego García: Who is the man deported from Maryland to El Salvador?

Officials in the US and El Salvador have been unwilling to return the man home, sparking a legal battle.

www.bbc.com

I don't have a link for the NYPD detective's statement that I heard on a morning show, maybe the Today Show.

Thank you for the links, I'll analyze them. Meanwhile, I'll accept what you say are the facts. I just added other relevant facts and came to a different conclusion.

 

[Flopper]

Which judge?

This guy has been in front of several judges, since he's had so much due process.

Yes, gang members don't usually leave much of a paper trail. You cannot just call their HR department for verification of employment. Could he have been convicted on that evidence if it were a crime just to be in MS13? Depends on what witnesses would say. Being arrested in the company of MS13 gang members in a group that had just thrown what turned out to be containers of marijuana would have been evidence.

But no one is trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is MS13. He is clearly a "suspected MS13 gang member," while at the same time is an illegal alien with an order of removal. Plenty of reason to prioritize him for deportation.

That's an incomplete sentence. He was give a "witholding of removal to El Salvador," not a "witholding of removal." He did not have a golden ticket to remain illegally in this country.

Of course the Biden administration did not appeal the order, they were interested in keeping all the illegals and bringing in more. The first Trump administration likely moved on to easier to deport people, but this guy was literally caught in gang activity, so the got bumped up the priority list.

Thank you for the links, I'll analyze them. Meanwhile, I'll accept what you say are the facts. I just added other relevant facts and came to a different conclusion.

He has been put in a terrorist prison for life because as you said, he was suspected of being an MS13 gang member. He has never been convicted of a crime in the US or anywhere else.

This isn't justice. It's profiling, and it's a betrayal of the principles of due process and human rights that our legal system is supposed to uphold. It will go down in history as one greatest failures of American justice.

 

[JimH52]

He has been put in a terrorist prison for life because as you said, he was suspected of being an MS13 gang member. He has never been convicted of a crime in the US or anywhere else.

This isn't justice. It's profiling, and it's a betrayal of the principles of due process and human rights that our legal system is supposed to uphold. It will go down in history as one greatest failures of American justice.

trump studied Hitler. Now we know why.

 

[Lesh]

Which judge?

This guy has been in front of several judges, since he's had so much due process.

Yes, gang members don't usually leave much of a paper trail. You cannot just call their HR department for verification of employment. Could he have been convicted on that evidence if it were a crime just to be in MS13? Depends on what witnesses would say. Being arrested in the company of MS13 gang members in a group that had just thrown what turned out to be containers of marijuana would have been evidence.

But no one is trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is MS13. He is clearly a "suspected MS13 gang member," while at the same time is an illegal alien with an order of removal. Plenty of reason to prioritize him for deportation.

That's an incomplete sentence. He was give a "witholding of removal to El Salvador," not a "witholding of removal." He did not have a golden ticket to remain illegally in this country.

Of course the Biden administration did not appeal the order, they were interested in keeping all the illegals and bringing in more. The first Trump administration likely moved on to easier to deport people, but this guy was literally caught in gang activity, so the got bumped up the priority list.

Thank you for the links, I'll analyze them. Meanwhile, I'll accept what you say are the facts. I just added other relevant facts and came to a different conclusion.

Almost ANYONE can be a “suspected gang member”.

What horse shit

 

[Flopper]

Looking like he's toast on several other fronts.

Keep it up......the Latino vote has been further pushed away for the dems.....

Not coming back....................

I seriously doubt that conservatives or anyone who believes in the rule of law will benefit from one of the worst miscarriages of justice we’ve seen in years. Deporting someone to a life in one of the world’s harshest prisons based on suspicion of gang affiliation without a single criminal conviction, sounds like something out of Russia, not the United States.

This isn’t justice. It’s a stain on the values we claim to uphold.

 

[Delldude]

FYI- - I mentioned Turley and Rubio saying some law negated the withholding order. It's the Alien and Enemies Act.

I seriously doubt that conservatives or anyone who believes in the rule of law will benefit from one of the worst miscarriages of justice we’ve seen in years. Deporting someone to a life in one of the world’s harshest prisons based on suspicion of gang affiliation without a single criminal conviction, sounds like something out of Russia, not the United States.

This isn’t justice. It’s a stain on the values we claim to uphold.

Get off it. The dem's have seen the goods........why do you think Van Hollen said he he wasn't here to defend the man?

Already a dead issue.... time to move on.

 

[Delldude]

trump studied Hitler. Now we know why.

And Hillary and Obama studied Marx and Alinsky.

 

[JimH52]

Almost ANYONE can be a “suspected gang member”.

What horse shit

That is the opinion of trump, the Mafia Boss.

 

[Seymour Flops]

He has been put in a terrorist prison for life because as you said, he was suspected of being an MS13 gang member. He has never been convicted of a crime in the US or anywhere else.

This isn't justice. It's profiling, and it's a betrayal of the principles of due process and human rights that our legal system is supposed to uphold. It will go down in history as one greatest failures of American justice.

I doubt he'll be in prison for life. I do know that for however long he is in prison, he won't be murdering any innocent people, trafficking carloads of illegals, and he won't keep beating his wife until he finally kills her.

He did not illegally enter the U.S. to enjoy our due process protections, any more than he did to pick our crops or clean our motel rooms, as Democrats claim most illegals do.

I think that even you must agree that when he sat down for drinks with Senator Van Hollen, he looked none the worse for wear, hardly the torture victim the left was claiming that he was. Well, now he has been transferred to a more lenient prison, which - I assure you - did not happen without Trump's behind the scenes intervention.

At this point, your best strategy is to de-emphasize that one person, planning to get him released when you regain the White House - which may not happen in your lifetime if you keep your wagon hitched to Kilmar.

I've never seen you lament the death of Rachel Morin, who did not get any due process from her killer. What about Lesbia Mileth Ramirez-Guerra? She was also an illegal alien who was given the death penalty by her illegal alien boyfriend and his uncle. Can you describe the due process she received? Either that or point me to the posts in which you were angry that she did not get a jury trial.

As to Rachel Morin, I suppose Senator Van Hollen spoke for you when asked about her. He said something like "Yeh, Yeh, my heart goes out to her family. Now about those so-called margaritas with Kilmar . . ."

Why are Democrats doing this to yourselves? Are you that led by the media?

 

[scruffy]

I seriously doubt that conservatives or anyone who believes in the rule of law will benefit from one of the worst miscarriages of justice we’ve seen in years.

Justice was served. The deportation orders issued by two judges were satisfied.

Deporting someone to a life in one of the world’s harshest prisons based on suspicion of gang affiliation without a single criminal conviction, sounds like something out of Russia, not the United States.

The United States had nothing to do with it. The illegal alien was deported to his home country. They're the ones who decided to throw him in jail, not us.

This isn’t justice. It’s a stain on the values we claim to uphold.

YOU claim to uphold. Most of us want our children to be safe and free of gang influence. For those of us with children, that value is more important than the fate of an illegal alien.

Garcia should have been deported years ago. Ex President Biden fell asleep on the job and failed to do so.

 

[Lesh]

I doubt he'll be in prison for life. I do know that for however long he is in prison, he won't be murdering any innocent people, trafficking carloads of illegals, and he won't keep beating his wife until he finally kills her.

He did not illegally enter the U.S. to enjoy our due process protections, any more than he did to pick our crops or clean our motel rooms, as Democrats claim most illegals do.

I think that even you must agree that when he sat down for drinks with Senator Van Hollen, he looked none the worse for wear, hardly the torture victim the left was claiming that he was. Well, now he has been transferred to a more lenient prison, which - I assure you - did not happen without Trump's behind the scenes intervention.

At this point, your best strategy is to de-emphasize that one person, planning to get him released when you regain the White House - which may not happen in your lifetime if you keep your wagon hitched to Kilmar.

I've never seen you lament the death of Rachel Morin, who did not get any due process from her killer. What about Lesbia Mileth Ramirez-Guerra? She was also an illegal alien who was given the death penalty by her illegal alien boyfriend and his uncle. Can you describe the due process she received? Either that or point me to the posts in which you were angry that she did not get a jury trial.

As to Rachel Morin, I suppose Senator Van Hollen spoke for you when asked about her. He said something like "Yeh, Yeh, my heart goes out to her family. Now about those so-called margaritas with Kilmar . . ."

Why are Democrats doing this to yourselves? Are you that led by the media?

That’s a whole lotta ******* words salad

 

[Lesh]

Justice was served. The deportation orders issued by two judges were satisfied.



The United States had nothing to do with it. The illegal alien was deported to his home country. They're the ones who decided to throw him in jail, not us.



YOU claim to uphold. Most of us want our children to be safe and free of gang influence. For those of us with children, that value is more important than the fate of an illegal alien.

Garcia should have been deported years ago. Ex President Biden fell asleep on the job and failed to do so.

He was granted withholding protection from deportation to El Salvador in 2019. Trump was president then.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That’s a whole lotta ******* words salad

I know you have a hard time reading posts longer than:

Yeah! The Orange Man SUX!

 

[Delldude]

He was granted withholding protection from deportation to El Salvador in 2019. Trump was president then.

Pretty sure that goes out the window when labeled a terrorist.

 

[Lesh]

Pretty sure that goes out the window when labeled a terrorist.

When PROVEN a Terrorist

Anyone can be “labeled” a terrorist

 

[Delldude]

When PROVEN a Terrorist

Anyone can be “labeled” a terrorist

Proven...........ask your posse why they don't claim he's not MS13 anymore.

Didn't get the memo?

 

[Lesh]

I doubt he'll be in prison for life. I do know that for however long he is in prison, he won't be murdering any innocent people, trafficking carloads of illegals, and he won't keep beating his wife until he finally kills her.

He did not illegally enter the U.S. to enjoy our due process protections, any more than he did to pick our crops or clean our motel rooms, as Democrats claim most illegals do.

I think that even you must agree that when he sat down for drinks with Senator Van Hollen, he looked none the worse for wear, hardly the torture victim the left was claiming that he was. Well, now he has been transferred to a more lenient prison, which - I assure you - did not happen without Trump's behind the scenes intervention.

At this point, your best strategy is to de-emphasize that one person, planning to get him released when you regain the White House - which may not happen in your lifetime if you keep your wagon hitched to Kilmar.

I've never seen you lament the death of Rachel Morin, who did not get any due process from her killer. What about Lesbia Mileth Ramirez-Guerra? She was also an illegal alien who was given the death penalty by her illegal alien boyfriend and his uncle. Can you describe the due process she received? Either that or point me to the posts in which you were angry that she did not get a jury trial.

As to Rachel Morin, I suppose Senator Van Hollen spoke for you when asked about her. He said something like "Yeh, Yeh, my heart goes out to her family. Now about those so-called margaritas with Kilmar . . ."

Why are Democrats doing this to yourselves? Are you that led by the media?

Ya know asshole, all those people you mention have NOTHING to do with Garcia. He hasn’t committed ANY violent crimes