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The government has no right to infringe upon our rights. Period.
You keep missing out on the fact that CCW's were there and there is nothing legally the school can do about it.Here is the schools official bylaws:
“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited.
Possession of knives with a blade longer than 4” is prohibited.
Brandishing weapons is prohibited.
Misuse of personal defensive weapons – e.g., pepper spray, etc. is prohibited. The owner is responsible and accountable for any misuse of these devices.”
Do gun control laws lessen the frequency of mass shootings??? Have any of these measures been effective whatsoever in preventing gun homicides? That is an important question that you need to ask yourself. If the answer is no, then obviously it is NOT the answer to the problem. Of course we are always going to have whackos around. There always have been whackos, but we have a LOT more of them today than ever before because there are more people living in the US than ever before. Why not look at Hollywood which glorifies violence and gore and desensitizes us? Perhaps THAT is the culprit because guns have ALWAYS been a part of American culture.
This will be interesting.The government has no right to infringe upon our rights. Period.
Define "infringe".
Does requiring you to have a permit for a concealed weapon infringe upon your rights?
Yes or no?
If no, then why would requiring you to have a permit for a firearm in your house infringe upon your rights?
Here's the thing.What I seem to read a lot about is excuses not to do something rather than finding some common ground, a lot of responsible gun owners when polled think something should be done. You simply can't arm every nursery, school, university, security people can't man every corridor and you can't have everyone walking around with a gun. Do Americans want to live in that type of society?
Common ground - that is, compromise- requires that both sides give something to get what they want.
The side that wants more gun control has nothing to offer to gun owners in exchange for what they to the gun owners to give up.
Thus, compromise -- that is, common ground - is impossible,.
It worked in Australia.
I have a buddy that used to live in the UK but now resides in Spain and he is bewildered. We talked about this at length this morning.I'd like to thank everyone who answered my question. Its just very confusing and really difficult for us in the UK to understand the gun situation in America.
Dear God you really are a dummy.Very few of the states require registration.Could somebody please explain to me the normal procedure to buy a gun? Also does each State have a gun register so that all owners are on a central database?
There are two ways to buy a gun:
-Go to a dealer, pick it out, undergo a background check, pay for the gun, take the gun home.
-Go to a private individual, pay for the gun, take it home.
If gun owners were licensed the private sale would allow for the seller to verity the buyer was licensed; and, a license could be immediately suspended if the licensee were to be arrested for crimes of violence, DUI for drugs or alcohol, detained civilly as a danger to him or her self or others.
Legal gun owners commit very few violent crimes involving guns. Insane people and negro thugs commit 99.999% of violent crimes involving a gun.
You don't like guns in the hands of even the cops. You're a fucking LIB pajama-boy pussy.
I saw a lot of you fucking LIBs in VN. We called you all "pukers and shiters". You could set your watch when a dozen of you cowards would show up at the MI claiming you had a 'stomach ache' a few minutes after you heard an explosion a mile away. That's why I have no respect for you and yours.
And to think how many good men died to make sure you could attempt to destroy our freedoms. Now I'm going to puke.
I have a buddy that used to live in the UK but now resides in Spain and he is bewildered. We talked about this at length this morning.I'd like to thank everyone who answered my question. Its just very confusing and really difficult for us in the UK to understand the gun situation in America.
Well you have several levels of retardation going on here. Some are just plain selfish. Others are convinced the NWO is imminent. The nuttiest of the bunch are convinced that Sandy Hook was staged and didnt really happen. We have a few people on this forum that probably think it didnt really happen.I have a buddy that used to live in the UK but now resides in Spain and he is bewildered. We talked about this at length this morning.I'd like to thank everyone who answered my question. Its just very confusing and really difficult for us in the UK to understand the gun situation in America.
Yes bewildered is where I'm at. This massacre got a lot of attention on our news. Its just so awful for those poor families. What really hit home though was the Sandy Hook massacre of those children. How can people turn a blind eye, surely as a nation America has to try everything possible that still allows people their 2nd Am right but marries that with sensible regulations. You of course can never totally eradicate these things from happening but you have to try.
There's no sound reason for gun owners to acquiesce to those that want more gun control because the additional gun control they want - not to mention the gun controls in place - will do nothing to prevent gun-related violence.Surely gun owners are human like the rest of us! If they could do something to help shouldn't they, I'm sure gun owners see these massacres and feel for the families.Here's the thing.What I seem to read a lot about is excuses not to do something rather than finding some common ground, a lot of responsible gun owners when polled think something should be done. You simply can't arm every nursery, school, university, security people can't man every corridor and you can't have everyone walking around with a gun. Do Americans want to live in that type of society?
Common ground - that is, compromise- requires that both sides give something to get what they want.
The side that wants more gun control has nothing to offer to gun owners in exchange for what they to the gun owners to give up.
Thus, compromise -- that is, common ground - is impossible,.
Every gun control law that affects only the law abiding -- background checks, registration, licenses, etc - creates a imitation on the rights of the law abiding. In our country, rights cannot be limited unless the state can show a compelling need to do so and a effective, limited means to meet that need. None of the additional restrictions meet that test, and so there's no sound reason gun owners should allow them.In terms of gun owners giving up something. Well no ones taking their gun away so what are they giving up
There is no freedom from fear.I hear a lot about freedom, shouldn't Americans have the freedom to go to a cinema, school etc without fear of being murdered.
President Obama openly states that he wants to ban an assortment of rifles, handguns and shotguns. There is no false concern here.all I see is a lot of hysteria from the NRA screaming that Obama is after your guns,
You have the right to life.How about the rights of innocent people to not be murdered.
What power am I giving them? What about the racists? I still have my gun to kill them should they attack me in my home.Why would you want to give the "man" that kind of power over you? What about all those "racists" who want to hold you down. You know, the man, whitey.
You want the government to be able to "control" people's rights. The only people that such controls effect are the people that care about the law. Do you really think people who would commit mass murder care or would not find some other way to do as much damage as possible?
Your strawman has been noted and I will address it. The government already controls your rights. How did you not know that? Who said people determined to commit mass murder would not find another way?
You blaming the tool and trying to gain control over a tool. It's never going to work. It's just delusional and avoidance of what the ACTUAL problem might be with society.
Q. What are the ACTUAL problems.
A. Many:
and the greatest problem is The Congress,
- Poverty
- Education
- Jobs
- Mental Health
- Partisanship
- Ignorance
- Selfishness
- Racism
- Bigotry
- Wedge Issues
More mindless nonsense from an anti-gun loon who smiles at the deaths of innocents.You are an angry old man, full of hate. You and other deranged people should never own a gun.Dear God you really are a dummy.Very few of the states require registration.Could somebody please explain to me the normal procedure to buy a gun? Also does each State have a gun register so that all owners are on a central database?
There are two ways to buy a gun:
-Go to a dealer, pick it out, undergo a background check, pay for the gun, take the gun home.
-Go to a private individual, pay for the gun, take it home.
If gun owners were licensed the private sale would allow for the seller to verity the buyer was licensed; and, a license could be immediately suspended if the licensee were to be arrested for crimes of violence, DUI for drugs or alcohol, detained civilly as a danger to him or her self or others.
Legal gun owners commit very few violent crimes involving guns. Insane people and negro thugs commit 99.999% of violent crimes involving a gun.
You don't like guns in the hands of even the cops. You're a fucking LIB pajama-boy pussy.
I saw a lot of you fucking LIBs in VN. We called you all "pukers and shiters". You could set your watch when a dozen of you cowards would show up at the MI claiming you had a 'stomach ache' a few minutes after you heard an explosion a mile away. That's why I have no respect for you and yours.
And to think how many good men died to make sure you could attempt to destroy our freedoms. Now I'm going to puke.
As you can see nicolondon the gun huggers are locked into this concept that all gun crime is stopped by gun control at once or nothing at all. There is no sign of rational thinking that allows for a slow reduction.There's no sound reason for gun owners to acquiesce to those that want more gun control because the additional gun control they want - not to mention the gun controls in place - will do nothing to prevent gun-related violence.Surely gun owners are human like the rest of us! If they could do something to help shouldn't they, I'm sure gun owners see these massacres and feel for the families.Here's the thing.What I seem to read a lot about is excuses not to do something rather than finding some common ground, a lot of responsible gun owners when polled think something should be done. You simply can't arm every nursery, school, university, security people can't man every corridor and you can't have everyone walking around with a gun. Do Americans want to live in that type of society?
Common ground - that is, compromise- requires that both sides give something to get what they want.
The side that wants more gun control has nothing to offer to gun owners in exchange for what they to the gun owners to give up.
Thus, compromise -- that is, common ground - is impossible,.
Every gun control law that affects only the law abiding -- background checks, registration, licenses, etc - creates a imitation on the rights of the law abiding. In our country, rights cannot be limited unless the state can show a compelling need to do so and a effective, limited means to meet that need. None of the additional restrictions meet that test, and so there's no sound reason gun owners should allow them.In terms of gun owners giving up something. Well no ones taking their gun away so what are they giving up
There is no freedom from fear.I hear a lot about freedom, shouldn't Americans have the freedom to go to a cinema, school etc without fear of being murdered.
Freedom itself, after all is a scary thing.
President Obama openly states that he wants to ban an assortment of rifles, handguns and shotguns. There is no false concern here.all I see is a lot of hysteria from the NRA screaming that Obama is after your guns,
You have he right to life.How about the rights of innocent people to not be murdered.
No law will prevent someone who wants to illegally deprive you of that right from doing so.
The government has no right to infringe upon our rights. Period.
Define "infringe".
Does requiring you to have a permit for a concealed weapon infringe upon your rights?
Yes or no?
If no, then why would requiring you to have a permit for a firearm in your house infringe upon your rights?
Do gun control laws lessen the frequency of mass shootings??? Have any of these measures been effective whatsoever in preventing gun homicides? That is an important question that you need to ask yourself. If the answer is no, then obviously it is NOT the answer to the problem. Of course we are always going to have whackos around. There always have been whackos, but we have a LOT more of them today than ever before because there are more people living in the US than ever before. Why not look at Hollywood which glorifies violence and gore and desensitizes us? Perhaps THAT is the culprit because guns have ALWAYS been a part of American culture.
It worked in Australia.
There's no sound reason for gun owners to acquiesce to those that want more gun control because the additional gun control they want - not to mention the gun controls in place - will do nothing to prevent gun-related violence.Surely gun owners are human like the rest of us! If they could do something to help shouldn't they, I'm sure gun owners see these massacres and feel for the families.Here's the thing.What I seem to read a lot about is excuses not to do something rather than finding some common ground, a lot of responsible gun owners when polled think something should be done. You simply can't arm every nursery, school, university, security people can't man every corridor and you can't have everyone walking around with a gun. Do Americans want to live in that type of society?
Common ground - that is, compromise- requires that both sides give something to get what they want.
The side that wants more gun control has nothing to offer to gun owners in exchange for what they to the gun owners to give up.
Thus, compromise -- that is, common ground - is impossible,.
Every gun control law that affects only the law abiding -- background checks, registration, licenses, etc - creates a imitation on the rights of the law abiding. In our country, rights cannot be limited unless the state can show a compelling need to do so and a effective, limited means to meet that need. None of the additional restrictions meet that test, and so there's no sound reason gun owners should allow them.In terms of gun owners giving up something. Well no ones taking their gun away so what are they giving up
There is no freedom from fear.I hear a lot about freedom, shouldn't Americans have the freedom to go to a cinema, school etc without fear of being murdered.
Freedom itself, after all is a scary thing.
President Obama openly states that he wants to ban an assortment of rifles, handguns and shotguns. There is no false concern here.all I see is a lot of hysteria from the NRA screaming that Obama is after your guns,
You have the right to life.How about the rights of innocent people to not be murdered.
No law will prevent someone who wants to illegally deprive you of that right from doing so.
