Breaking:House Intel Chair: Trump and team spied on during transition

[TyroneSlothrop]

The Investigator Gets Investigated As Rep. Elijah Cummings Calls For Probe Of Devin Nunes

The top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) is calling for an investigation into House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) after the Intel Committee chair gave information to a White House under investigation.…

 

[tinydancer]

The Investigator Gets Investigated As Rep. Elijah Cummings Calls For Probe Of Devin Nunes

The top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) is calling for an investigation into House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) after the Intel Committee chair gave information to a White House under investigation.…

OK has everyone taken a freaking stupid pill? The takeaway from the information we do know from Nunes is that this surveillance had absolutely nothing to do with the Russians, nor the Russian investigation or any foreign intelligence.

Mmmmkay?

None. Zip. Nada. Cummings can go pound sand.

 

[tinydancer]

So who do you think authorized the spying errrrrrrrrrrrrr surveillance? I can't wait for the investigation to begin on the investigators.

 

[jc456]

Duh. You don't think a criminal investigation should include investigating the criminal? Ridiculous.

They should take that DNC server and see what he actually did. What do you think?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

A REVIEW OF WHAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED:

1.) On Monday, during a hearing of the House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence, the heads of the FBI and NSA categorically denied President Donald Trump’s tweets claiming that President Barack Obama ordered the US intelligence community to wiretap Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential campaign.
2.) Sometime between the hearing and Wednesday morning, the committee’s chair, Devin Nunes, received a tip from an unnamed source that US intelligence had picked up the communications of some Trump staff during the presidential transition.
3.) The raw intelligence that Nunes reviewed showed no evidence of a wiretap on Trump. Rather, it showed that the conversations had been intercepted incidentally under a court-ordered FISA warrant. In plain English, that means Trump officials had spoken to a foreign national whose communications were being monitored by US intelligence, so their conversations were picked up despite the fact that they weren’t targets of surveillance.
4.) Before taking this information to the FBI or the other members of the House Intelligence Committee, Nunes briefed his political boss, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.
5.) Around midday on Wednesday, Nunes went public, holding a press conference to announce that "the intelligence community incidentally collected information about US citizens involved in the Trump transition." During the press conference, he initially suggested the president’s personal communications had been hoovered up, but then backtracked to say it was merely "possible" that Trump was recorded.
6.) Afterwards, he went to the White House to brief the president’s team. He still had yet to meet with the ranking Democrat on House Intelligence, Adam Schiff.
7.) After his briefing with Nunes, around 3 pm, Trump told reporters that the Congress member’s revelations "somewhat" vindicated his claim that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower, even though they did nothing of the kind.
8.) Around the same time as Trump’s comments, Nunes told NBC’s Kasie Hunt that he could not share the raw intelligence with the rest of the House Intelligence Committee because he doesn’t actually have the raw intelligence in his possession — raising the question of how he managed to vet it sufficiently before going public in the first place.
9.) On Thursday, Nunes held another press conference. When a reporter asked him if the intercepts were given to him by members of the Trump administration, he refused to answer, saying "we’re not going to ever reveal sources."

The House Intelligence chair went public with his own read of raw intelligence transcripts before properly vetting it with his colleagues. He has offered no coherent explanation as to why bypassing normal vetting channels was acceptable behavior, where the information came from, or even what he was thinking when he decided to do it.

Nunes’s public presentation of this information was also incredibly confusing, done in a way that makes little sense unless he was deliberately trying to obscure the truth about whether the president was wiretapped.

So Nunes appears to have, in a very short amount of time, torched his own credibility in defense of a clearly false tweet sent out by Donald Trump. And he did all of this at a time when the FBI is investigating evidence that the Trump campaign may have coordinated with Russian efforts to undermine the US election — charges that the House Intelligence Committee is, in theory, supposed to be investigating as well.

This is not normal.

http://www.vox.com/world/20...

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

'What do the Russians have on Trump?': Bernie Sanders demands more information on the FBI investigat
Source: RawStory



‘What do the Russians have on Trump?’: Bernie Sanders demands more information on the FBI investigation

ELIZABETH PREZA
23 MAR 2017 AT 16:41 ET

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) on Thursday pressed for more information on the ongoing FBI investigation into possible collusion between the Donald Trump campaign and Russian officials, asking why the president “has nothing but nice things to say about” Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“What do the Russians have on Mr. Trump?” Sanders asked.
Bernie Sanders ✔ @BernieSanders


How does it happen that we have a president who has nothing but nice things to say about Mr. Putin? What do the Russians have on Mr. Trump?

3:05 PM - 23 Mar 2017



Sanders has been an active critic of the Trump administration, though he’s promised to work with the president on areas of common ground, including infrastructure. Recent developments in the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election seems to have soured any semblance of good will between the men.

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Read more: ‘What do the Russians have on Trump?’: Bernie Sanders demands more information on the FBI investigation

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

So who do you think authorized the spying errrrrrrrrrrrrr surveillance? I can't wait for the investigation to begin on the investigators.

Have another scupper full of trump piss. You obviously can't get enough to satisfy your cravings with the amount you keep regurgitating daily!

 

[radical right]

Duh. You don't think a criminal investigation should include investigating the criminal? Ridiculous.

They should take that DNC server and see what he actually did. What do you think?

It's like doing an evasive hours long vaginal exam to a rape victim to see and document exactly how much damage was done.

 

[oreo]

Nothing has been debunked except by Comey who apparently cannot find his own ass, or the leakers in his own organization.

You Lil Einstien Trump supporters are really an insult to a functioning human brain.



So where are we so far:

1. CLEVELAND during the RNC Convention: July 2016 Trump advisers admit to meeting with Russian ambassador (after Jeff Sessions was accused of lying under oath to congress.)

"Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today. Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.'
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

2. We know that the Trump administration (5 times) denied any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

3. Jeff Sessions accused of lying under oath during his confirmation hearing. According to a source it's not unusual for member on the armed service committee to meet with Foreign ambassadors, but none of the other 13 on this committee had met with the Russian ambassador, only Sessions did twice during the campaign season. Sessions also filled out a questionaire prior to the confirmation hearing and stated that he had no contact with any Russians and signed it. Sessions then recuses himself from the Russian investigation.
Sessions recuses himself from Russia investigations - CNNPolitics.com

"When he was asked in his confirmation hearing what he would do if there was evidence anyone associated with Donald Trump’s presidential campaign had communicated with the Russians, Sessions replied that he wasn’t aware of any such “activities,” and added, “I did not have communications with the Russians.” A questionnaire he filled out for the committee also asked whether he had had contact with the Russians, to which Sessions, according to the Post, wrote, “No.”
Jeff Sessions spoke twice with Russian envoy during presidential campaign: Department of Justice

4. General Flynn also lied to the FBI under oath. Stating he did not have a conversation with the Russian Ambassador regarding the new sanctions that Obama was imposing on Russia for hacking into the election. Obviously the conversation was wiretapped. Flynn gone.Over this weekend we learned that General Flynn was also a paid lobbyist for Turkey, being paid 500K and actually attending intelligence briefings. AND OF COURSE THEY WIRE TAPPED FLYNN TALKING TO THE RUSSIANS DURING THE TRANSITION, THAT'S HOW HE GOT BUSTED.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/world/europe/turkey-flynn-erdogan-gulen.html?_r=0
Flynn reportedly lied to FBI about sanctions talk with Russian envoy
Flynn's consulting firm paid $530K to lobby for Turkey during election

We know that the Russian phone lines were wiretapped, and out comes this information.
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com



5. We know that Obama ordered this investigation to be done BEFORE he left office, and that he had "preserved intelligence."

"citing former American officials, reported that these officials were concerned that the information they were gaining on the Russian meddling in the election and the possible campaign contact could be compromised with the new administration, and they wanted to set up any future investigation with the information.
According to The Times, after Obama asked for an investigation into Russian tampering into the elections, officials found some "damning" evidence.
Obama administration reportedly raced to preserve intelligence on possible contact between Russians and Trump associates

6. Roger Stone a long time friend and Trump Senior adviser ADMITS to having a back door into Wikileaks and actually being in contact with the Russian that hacked into DNC databases.

"In the final months of the 2016 campaign, longtime Donald Trump associate Roger Stone repeatedly discussed his backchannel communications with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and claimed knowledge of forthcoming leaks from the group, a CNN KFile review of his public statements shows. Stone's comments about WikiLeaks have come under increased scrutiny as the FBI and congressional committees investigate whether Trump associates were involved in Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election."
Trump adviser Roger Stone repeatedly claimed to know of forthcoming WikiLeaks dumps - CNNPolitics.com

"President Donald Trump's former campaign adviser and longtime confidante Roger Stone said he exchanged private messages with a hacker implicated in a massive cyberattack that targeted the Democratic National Commitee last year. Stone told Business Insider in an email late Thursday night that he had a private conversation on Twitter with the person, nicknamed "Guccifer 2.0," and that the interaction was so "brief and banal, I had forgotten it."
Top Trump confidante admits to speaking privately with Guccifer 2.0, an alleged Russian cyberspy

BREAKING NEWS:
7. "The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, US officials told CNN. This is partly what FBI Director James Comey was referring to when he made a bombshell announcement Monday before Congress that the FBI is investigating the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, according to one source."
US Officials: Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians - CNNPolitics.com

8.

 

[tinydancer]

'What do the Russians have on Trump?': Bernie Sanders demands more information on the FBI investigat
Source: RawStory



‘What do the Russians have on Trump?’: Bernie Sanders demands more information on the FBI investigation

ELIZABETH PREZA
23 MAR 2017 AT 16:41 ET

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) on Thursday pressed for more information on the ongoing FBI investigation into possible collusion between the Donald Trump campaign and Russian officials, asking why the president “has nothing but nice things to say about” Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“What do the Russians have on Mr. Trump?” Sanders asked.
Bernie Sanders ✔ @BernieSanders


How does it happen that we have a president who has nothing but nice things to say about Mr. Putin? What do the Russians have on Mr. Trump?

3:05 PM - 23 Mar 2017



Sanders has been an active critic of the Trump administration, though he’s promised to work with the president on areas of common ground, including infrastructure. Recent developments in the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election seems to have soured any semblance of good will between the men.

###

Read more: ‘What do the Russians have on Trump?’: Bernie Sanders demands more information on the FBI investigation

#3 is complete bullshit. The reason Nunes went forward with these revelations is that this surveillance had nothing to do with Russia, the Russian investigation nor foreign intelligence.

I don't know how many times this has to be pointed out. This is why his sources brought him the documentation of the spying errrrrrrrrrrrr surveillance.

This operation only dealt with Trump and his transition teams communications. aka spying on the new administration.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

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[tinydancer]

Nothing has been debunked except by Comey who apparently cannot find his own ass, or the leakers in his own organization.

You Lil Einstien Trump supporters are really an insult to a functioning human brain.



So where are we so far:

1. CLEVELAND during the RNC Convention: July 2016 Trump advisers admit to meeting with Russian ambassador (after Jeff Sessions was accused of lying under oath to congress.)

"Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today. Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.'
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

2. We know that the Trump administration (5 times) denied any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

3. Jeff Sessions accused of lying under oath during his confirmation hearing. According to a source it's not unusual for member on the armed service committee to meet with Foreign ambassadors, but none of the other 13 on this committee had met with the Russian ambassador, only Sessions did twice during the campaign season. Sessions also filled out a questionaire prior to the confirmation hearing and stated that he had no contact with any Russians and signed it. Sessions then recuses himself from the Russian investigation.
Sessions recuses himself from Russia investigations - CNNPolitics.com

"When he was asked in his confirmation hearing what he would do if there was evidence anyone associated with Donald Trump’s presidential campaign had communicated with the Russians, Sessions replied that he wasn’t aware of any such “activities,” and added, “I did not have communications with the Russians.” A questionnaire he filled out for the committee also asked whether he had had contact with the Russians, to which Sessions, according to the Post, wrote, “No.”
Jeff Sessions spoke twice with Russian envoy during presidential campaign: Department of Justice

4. General Flynn also lied to the FBI under oath. Stating he did not have a conversation with the Russian Ambassador regarding the new sanctions that Obama was imposing on Russia for hacking into the election. Obviously the conversation was wiretapped. Flynn gone.Over this weekend we learned that General Flynn was also a paid lobbyist for Turkey, being paid 500K and actually attending intelligence briefings. AND OF COURSE THEY WIRE TAPPED FLYNN TALKING TO THE RUSSIANS DURING THE TRANSITION, THAT'S HOW HE GOT BUSTED.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/world/europe/turkey-flynn-erdogan-gulen.html?_r=0
Flynn reportedly lied to FBI about sanctions talk with Russian envoy
Flynn's consulting firm paid $530K to lobby for Turkey during election

We know that the Russian phone lines were wiretapped, and out comes this information.
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com



5. We know that Obama ordered this investigation to be done BEFORE he left office, and that he had "preserved intelligence."

"citing former American officials, reported that these officials were concerned that the information they were gaining on the Russian meddling in the election and the possible campaign contact could be compromised with the new administration, and they wanted to set up any future investigation with the information.
According to The Times, after Obama asked for an investigation into Russian tampering into the elections, officials found some "damning" evidence.
Obama administration reportedly raced to preserve intelligence on possible contact between Russians and Trump associates

6. Roger Stone a long time friend and Trump Senior adviser ADMITS to having a back door into Wikileaks and actually being in contact with the Russian that hacked into DNC databases.

"In the final months of the 2016 campaign, longtime Donald Trump associate Roger Stone repeatedly discussed his backchannel communications with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and claimed knowledge of forthcoming leaks from the group, a CNN KFile review of his public statements shows. Stone's comments about WikiLeaks have come under increased scrutiny as the FBI and congressional committees investigate whether Trump associates were involved in Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election."
Trump adviser Roger Stone repeatedly claimed to know of forthcoming WikiLeaks dumps - CNNPolitics.com

"President Donald Trump's former campaign adviser and longtime confidante Roger Stone said he exchanged private messages with a hacker implicated in a massive cyberattack that targeted the Democratic National Commitee last year. Stone told Business Insider in an email late Thursday night that he had a private conversation on Twitter with the person, nicknamed "Guccifer 2.0," and that the interaction was so "brief and banal, I had forgotten it."
Top Trump confidante admits to speaking privately with Guccifer 2.0, an alleged Russian cyberspy

BREAKING NEWS:
7. "The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, US officials told CNN. This is partly what FBI Director James Comey was referring to when he made a bombshell announcement Monday before Congress that the FBI is investigating the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, according to one source."
US Officials: Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians - CNNPolitics.com

8.

All your points are bullshit and have been refuted before.

 

[jc456]

Duh. You don't think a criminal investigation should include investigating the criminal? Ridiculous.

They should take that DNC server and see what he actually did. What do you think?

It's like doing an evasive hours long vaginal exam to a rape victim to see and document exactly how much damage was done.

well let's get that sucker up there and swab away!!!!

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Campaign
Biden: 'McCain is right: Need select committee' for Russia
BY Rebecca Savransky 03/23/17 03:07 PM EDT

 

[bripat9643]

I'm sure Nunes will get a large kickback for his latest lie, which only makes him as complicit as Not My President Comrade Trump and his comrades.

Nunes will get kicked all right.

And how exactly will that happen?

Pissing Russian prostitutes in his room?
Was he caught jerking off in the ladies room?

What's the ******* justification for interference of an ongoing investigation?????

He destroyed the credibility of the committee that is supposed to have oversight of the executive by giving evidence to the man they're investigating. He will be removed unless Ryan pusses out.

It's clear that leaks aren’t what they're after, which is were the felonies occured. Why is that?
If you were in an investigation and your coworkers showed no interest at getting to the truth, wouldn't you speak up?????

Nice try.
Nunes did what no other before him has.
He brought into question the credibility of his committee and damaged the ability of the committee to conduct oversight in the future.

Certainly as a green beret you understand the concept of acting so as to not dishonor yourself or your organization.

ROFL! He did nothing of the sort.

 

[ClosedCaption]

A fairy tale conspiracy theory asserting that a presidential candidate and the leader of Russia conspired to rig a presidential election: absolutely ZERO evidence; absurd; and politically motivated.

After a while you cant use the excuse of "1000 connections are just happy coincidences" anymore.

The standard of proof that was established for Hillary's escapades was, as long as there is no conviction in a court of law, the defendant is free and clear of taint and contamination. I see no reason to change that standard now.

Ahh, it's just a coincidence that you agree with the standard you just made up? Very slick.

 

[bripat9643]

There is a big storm brewing. Before it is all said and done many Democrat pols are going to prison.

Since it appears to be legal surveillance, which would require a valid FISA search warrent request, the ones more likely to be going to prison are members of Trump's campaign who were being surveiled.

The communications that were being disseminated had nothing to do with Russia, the Russian investigation or any foreign intelligence of any value.

Since it appears to be legal surveillance, which would require a valid FISA search warrent request, the ones more likely to be going to prison are members of Trump's campaign who were being surveiled

Whether it was "legal surveillance" isn't the issue. The names were unmasked and then it was distributed to Whitehouse personnel, both of which are blatantly illegal.

 

[bripat9643]

A fairy tale conspiracy theory asserting that a presidential candidate and the leader of Russia conspired to rig a presidential election: absolutely ZERO evidence; absurd; and politically motivated.

After a while you cant use the excuse of "1000 connections are just happy coincidences" anymore.

The standard of proof that was established for Hillary's escapades was, as long as there is no conviction in a court of law, the defendant is free and clear of taint and contamination. I see no reason to change that standard now.

Ahh, it's just a coincidence that you agree with the standard you just made up? Very slick.

Comey, Loretta Lynch and the partisan media made it up, douche bag.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

A REVIEW OF WHAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED:

So Nunes appears to have, in a very short amount of time, torched his own credibility in defense of a clearly false tweet sent out by Donald Trump. And he did all of this at a time when the FBI is investigating evidence that the Trump campaign may have coordinated with Russian efforts to undermine the US election — charges that the House Intelligence Committee is, in theory, supposed to be investigating as well.

This is not normal.

http://www.vox.com/world/20...

Update to the Review

Nunes Now Unsure Trump Associates Were Surveilled
House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) does not know “for sure” whether President Trump or members of his transition team were even on the phone calls or other communications now being cited as partial vindication for the president’s wiretapping claims against the Obama administration, ABC News reports.


Said a spokesperson: “He said he’ll have to get all the documents he requested from the about this before he knows for sure.”

Now you know ...the Rest of the Story

 

[tinydancer]

So who do you think authorized the spying errrrrrrrrrrrrr surveillance? I can't wait for the investigation to begin on the investigators.

Have another scupper full of trump piss. You obviously can't get enough to satisfy your cravings with the amount you keep regurgitating daily!

Mmmkay how should respond? Take a flying **** troll asshole. Or have a nice day and try decaff