Breaking confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart 18 ppl shot

[BasicHumanUnit]

Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.

Nor will they ever be the most powerful, most prosperous nation on Earth, like the USA is.
And those countries are growing more dangerous by the day since everyone is a potential victim.

Meh, you wanna one way ticket to one of them? Seems for some reason you love it here better.

 

[Crepitus]

Too bad. Democrats make this shit happen because they refuse to punish violence.

That may be the stupidest thing you've ever said, and let's face it, you've said some really stupid things here.

 

[2aguy]

Getting nothing on it here yet.

El Paso...run by democrats.....

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

If we have a "Mass shooting" every day......it doesn't mean we have a gun problem......

It means we have a serious problem with Leftist policies creating psychopaths.

Why does the left embrace psychopathic murderers who will find one way or another to kill innocent people?

 

[miketx]

Too bad. Democrats make this shit happen because they refuse to punish violence.

That may be the stupidest thing you've ever said, and let's face it, you've said some really stupid things here.

Too bad, it's the truth ya lying cockroach.

 

[Paulie]

Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.

True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder

 

[miketx]

Interview with another witness. This guy was carrying (concealed carry, legally) and you know what he did? He ran.

blob:https://www.nbcnews.com/a0818a1a-bacc-4888-ac35-1a27b2b7d95b

People that carry are under no obligation to protect lemmings like you or the stupid democrats in south texas.

 

[Crepitus]

Too bad. Democrats make this shit happen because they refuse to punish violence.

That may be the stupidest thing you've ever said, and let's face it, you've said some really stupid things here.

Too bad, it's the truth ya lying cockroach.

No, it's not. I know you want it to be, but that's not how it works.

 

[2aguy]

Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.

True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder

actually....the British police recently stated they can't stop the increasing flow of new, illegal guns into the country. The young males in Britain are stabbing each other to death, much the same way American youths were stabbing each other going into the 1960s.....then they turned to guns.

British youths will be turning to guns soon too.....

 

[miketx]

Too bad. Democrats make this shit happen because they refuse to punish violence.

That may be the stupidest thing you've ever said, and let's face it, you've said some really stupid things here.

Too bad, it's the truth ya lying cockroach.

No, it's not. I know you want it to be, but that's not how it works.

That's exactly what democrats do. The plea bargain, the probation, the early release, the parole, the continued stream of violent criminals released back into society to prey on us. Happens every day and no matter how many times filth like you lie, it is a fact.

 

[Paulie]

Interview with another witness. This guy was carrying (concealed carry, legally) and you know what he did? He ran.

blob:https://www.nbcnews.com/a0818a1a-bacc-4888-ac35-1a27b2b7d95b

Not everyone is a hero. It’s ok to carry to defend yourself while not having to feel obligated to play hero amidst gunfire at a mall. If it was me I would probably run too, for cover before I decided my next move. The idea of gun rights isn’t so we can all save the world

 

[beagle9]

Time for the gloves to come off..... It's absolutely time to quickly convict if the smoking gun is evident, and to hang such people in the public square, and to leave their rotting bodies hanging for one month in that square.

No more of these do gooders feeling sorry for evil human beings like these. It's time for more good citizens to start carrying (CWP), and be the first responders in order to quickly stop this tragic bullcrap.

Keep on listening to the Democrats people, and more and more will be left vulnerable regardless of who the shooters are. Regardless of who a shooter is or what their ideology is, they aren't finding out who anyone is when they are shooting them, so it matters not who the shooters is, just protect yourself, and protect your loved ones by getting better prepared. Sure the law enforcement can sort it out later, but your loved ones are gone.

Capital punishment must be excersized justfully, but swiftly all at the same time.

 

[Issa]

BREAKING NOW: Confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart; 18 people shot
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It's been a few you still haven' t noticed the ........

Only in America this is normal....YA became numb to this, the rest of the world shaking their head every time that show on their news....keep your deadly toys you might need them one day to kill those who pisses you off i guess.
Thoughts and prayers as usual till the next mass shooting coming to your place of work, worship maybe your kids school. ONLY IN AMERICA.

 

[Paulie]

Interview with another witness. This guy was carrying (concealed carry, legally) and you know what he did? He ran.

blob:https://www.nbcnews.com/a0818a1a-bacc-4888-ac35-1a27b2b7d95b

People that carry are under no obligation to protect lemmings like you or the stupid democrats in south texas.

According to the Supreme Court not even the police are obligated to protect you.

 

[OldLady]

Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.

True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder

They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

No, it's not. I know you want it to be, but that's not how it works.

Wrong.

FACT.....

If we could ship ALL leftists to Siberia, overnight the US would have the lowest murder rate per capita of all the worlds nations
Leftists are violent, crazed savages that foster savagery and violence. Look at how they act from Antifa to Maxine waters. Nothing but violent psychopathic scum.

You create it, they'll destroy it....from civilization..... to infants.

 

[Brain357]

If we have a "Mass shooting" every day......it doesn't mean we have a gun problem......

It means we have a serious problem with Leftist policies creating psychopaths.

Why does the left embrace psychopathic murderers who will find one way or another to kill innocent people?

Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings....

 

[Paulie]

BREAKING NOW: Confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart; 18 people shot
View attachment 272586

It's been a few you still haven' t noticed the ........

Only in America this is normal....YA became numb to this, the rest of the world shaking their head every time that show on their news....keep your deadly toys you might need them one day to kill those who pisses you off i guess.
Thoughts and prayers as usual till the next mass shooting coming to your place of work, worship maybe your kids school. ONLY IN AMERICA.

I know. I wish we had all the bombings they have in those other countries that aren’t America. As long as law abiding people can’t own guns anymore I’d be fine with a subway being blown up by a terrorist every once in a while

 

[beagle9]

Too bad. Democrats make this shit happen because they refuse to punish violence.

That may be the stupidest thing you've ever said, and let's face it, you've said some really stupid things here.

Too bad, it's the truth ya lying cockroach.

No, it's not. I know you want it to be, but that's not how it works.

That's exactly what democrats do. The plea bargain, the probation, the early release, the parole, the continued stream of violent criminals released back into society to prey on us. Happens every day and no matter how many times filth like you lie, it is a fact.

Sadly I think you are right. It seems liberalism has led to alot of this living in la-la land today. This bullcrap is serious.

 

[OldLady]

Time for the gloves to come off..... It's absolutely time to quickly convict if the smoking gun is evident, and to hang such people in the public square, and to leave their rotting bodies hanging for one month in that square.

No more of these do gooders feeling sorry for evil human beings like these. It's time for more good citizens to start carrying (CWP), and be the first responders in order to quickly stop this tragic bullcrap.

Keep on listening to the Democrats people, and more and more will be left vulnerable regardless of who the shooters are. Regardless of who a shooter is or what their ideology is, they aren't finding out who anyone is when they are shooting them, so it matters not who the shooters is, just protect yourself, and protect your loved ones by getting better prepared. Sure the law enforcement can sort it out later, but your loved ones are gone.

Capital punishment must be excersized justfully, but swiftly all at the same time.

I just saw an interview of a guy who was there, who was carrying, and he ran. He's in the military. He tried to help some of the kids who were running and had been separated from their parents, but the guy did NOT go shoot the shooter.