BREAKING: Columbia anti-Israel protester Mahmoud Khalil can be deported, judge rules

[Doc7505]

A federal judge in Louisiana??? This is headed to the Supreme Court.

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I don't think so. In any case even if it goes to SCOTUS he will lose in a at least a 5 tp 4 vote, if not a 6 to 3.

 

[WEATHER53]

Sure, but since we are a country that values individual rights over arbitrary collective punishment, I will ask: Did he kill any Jews? It's one thing to chant "kill the Jews" in protest, and another to command a group of people to do it, and even another to do it alongside them.

Like I said, I want to see the evidence Rubio presented to the judge. I'm not necessarily convinced his case was that airtight.

Free speech is not equal to direction to Act criminally

 

[TemplarKormac]

Free speech is not equal to direction to Act criminally

I agree.

So my question remains this: Did he direct anyone, knowingly, to commit acts of violence against Jews?

We can't make assumptions without knowing what kind of evidence was presented before the court.

 

[struth]

I agree.

So my question remains this: Did he direct anyone, knowingly, to commit acts of violence against Jews?

We can't make assumptions without knowing what kind of evidence was presented before the court.

Not sure if he did or didn’t, not really relevant to the equation

 

[BluesLegend]

Mahmoud Khalil faces deportation for his role in Columbia University campus protests against Israel

A judge has ruled that Mahmoud Khalil, a University of Columbia student accused of fomenting unrest and violence in the guise of anti Israel protests can be deported. I will note that this case is likely to be appealed and may reach the Supreme Court.

Columbia anti-Israel protester Mahmoud Khalil can be deported, judge rules

An immigration judge has ruled that Mahmoud Khalil can be deported from the U.S. due to his involvement in leading last year’s pro-Palestinian protests at Columbia University.

www.foxnews.com

Buh-bye!

 

[TemplarKormac]

Not sure if he did or didn’t, not really relevant to the equation

It actually is, if they are to prove he violated his LPR status.

Remember, we try people on an individual basis, not via a collective, unless they are directly connected to the assailant. Sure people could have acted on his speech, but if he didn't act on his speech, you can't say he himself committed violence against Jews on the Columbia campus.

 

[BluesLegend]

And violating his visa

Well then he can GTFO and never return.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

And violating his visa

Foreigners on student/guest visas do not, repeat, do not have the same rights as citizens of this nation. If you are a guest here from a foreign nation, you have to act appropriately. Apparently you lack the concept to understand the word "guest."

 

[forkup]

I predict that SCOTUS could rule in Khalil's favor, though. Because from my viewpoint, activism isn't a crime. It's free speech. It's only when that activism results in violent behavior does it cross the realm from free speech into endangering safety, and thus a violation of your LPR status.

Rubio's case will have to meet an even higher burden once it reaches SCOTUS.

Actually, I don't think this is the case. It won't be about why he's being deported.

It will be about how broad the executive branch can interpret what's in the national security interest. Something I'm pretty sure this SCOTUS will allow very broad leeway in.

It doesn't really matter if Khalil committed a crime or not.

It's these legal loopholes, loopholes that in my view violate the spirit of both the law in general and the Constitution specifically that are part of the Trump administration's campaign to put the US on a path to autocracy. A place where dissent is not tolerated, and the executive will use every trick they can come up with to stifle it.


As a practical matter it's also self-destructive. What foreign student or faculty will risk studying or teaching in the US when deportation is resting on the whims of the guy in the White House.

 

[justoffal]

I predict that SCOTUS could rule in Khalil's favor, though. Because from my viewpoint, activism isn't a crime. It's free speech. It's only when that activism results in violent behavior does it cross the realm from free speech into endangering safety, and thus a violation of your LPR status.

Rubio's case will have to meet an even higher burden once it reaches SCOTUS.

Unfortunately the terms on the Visa a very explicit. They do not grant citizens rights only guests rights. Visa language specifically forbids political activism.

Chapter 3 - Immigrant Membership in Totalitarian Party

A. Purpose and Background1. PurposeThe inadmissibility ground for immigrant membership in or affiliation with

www.uscis.gov

 

[forkup]

Foreigners on student/guest visas do not, repeat, do not have the same rights as citizens of this nation. If you are a guest here from a foreign nation, you have to act appropriately. Apparently you lack the concept to understand the word "guest."

Yes, they do.

 

[Edgetho]

I'm sure there will be.
After all, he was just a student getting an education exercising his First Amendment rights.

In between helping to feed the Homeless and teaching blind children how to read braille

 

[WEATHER53]

Foreigners on student/guest visas do not, repeat, do not have the same rights as citizens of this nation. If you are a guest here from a foreign nation, you have to act appropriately. Apparently you lack the concept to understand the word "guest."

They do not have constitutional rights but they do have legal rights

 

[Edgetho]

Kill the Jews was well beyond activism

Not to dimocrap scum. Their Violence is Speech, Our Speech is Violence.

 

[Leviticus]

And violating his visa

He wasn't on a visa. He had a green card

 

[justoffal]

Yes, they do.

No they don't ...

Chapter 3 - Immigrant Membership in Totalitarian Party

A. Purpose and Background1. PurposeThe inadmissibility ground for immigrant membership in or affiliation with

www.uscis.gov

 

[struth]

It actually is, if they are to prove he violated his LPR status.

Remember, we try people on an individual basis, not via a collective, unless they are directly connected to the assailant. Sure people could have acted on his speech, but if he didn't act on his speech, you can't say he himself committed violence against Jews on the Columbia campus.

They don’t have to prove he directed anyone to assault Jews. Just that he is a national security threat

 

[Edgetho]

They do not have constitutional rights but they do have legal rights

True, they have the legal right to be deported

 

[BluesLegend]

Guests in OUR country should think twice about stirring up trouble and getting mouthy, else they will get the boot. They can return to their shithole country and never come back.

 

[forkup]

Unfortunately the terms on the Visa a very explicit. They do not grant citizens rights only guests rights. Visa language specifically forbids political activism.

Chapter 3 - Immigrant Membership in Totalitarian Party

A. Purpose and Background1. PurposeThe inadmissibility ground for immigrant membership in or affiliation with

www.uscis.gov

Read your own source, and tell me where exactly it forbids political activism? It only forbids being part of certain parties. NOT being politically active.