OldLady
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I'd take it, that's for sure.
BREAKING: At least 10 feared dead from mass shooting in Dayton, OH
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The conservatives here are mostly liars in the Trump mold Yes, there are some good ones among them, 1 or2
2aguy
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Was that the El Paso guy, or the Dayton guy?
The El Paso guy was an environmental fascist who stated immigration was hurting the environment......the Dayton guy was antifa, a declared democrat, a declared socialist and a declared supporter of Warren and Sanders......
The environmental angle fueled the killings in El Paso......
And we don't know why he shot up where his sister was.....maybe she supported Trump....and he killed her for it....ever think of that?
The El Paso guy was a white supremacist who hated hispanics and non white immigrants and opposed race mixing. Dizzy from all the spinning yet?
2aguy
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He hated them because of the environmental damage he thought they did based on 12 years of left wing propaganda about the enviornment.....
That is the truth, that was in his manifesto....
I quoted the truth from his manifesto. Race mixing. Anti immigrant. Typical rw platforms. Take the log out of your eye.
Crixus
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Nope. I took a lot out of it. It is a crazy mixed up manifesto hitting a lot of ideological viewpoints. But what strongly pertains to his actions are his anti immigrant biews in both America and Europe. You cant ignore it given the current climate and rhetoric regarding immigration. What pushed him over the edge and made him decide to target hispanics?
IMO none of these mass killers (nor for that matter ANTIFA) are representative of mainstream left and right in this country and are deeply condemned by both. Yet that doesnt stop peopme like 2Aguy and others from politicizing it and generalizing the actors on an entire political system. (I notice you seem to ignore it).
""back in the west Texas town of El Paso
He says Crusius later waived his Miranda Rights and agreed to speak with detectives, telling them he was targeting Mexicans during his attack.
Twenty-two people were killed in the attack and about two dozen others were wounded. Many of the dead had Latino last names and eight of them were Mexican nationals. El Paso sits on the border with Mexico.
He says Crusius later waived his Miranda Rights and agreed to speak with detectives, telling them he was targeting Mexicans during his attack.
Twenty-two people were killed in the attack and about two dozen others were wounded. Many of the dead had Latino last names and eight of them were Mexican nationals. El Paso sits on the border with Mexico.
JoeB131
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Oh, I see, you want to count it only when white people are shot... got it.
Why are you wasting my time again?
Yess... yes... Been 70 years since WWII, they STILL Haven't reached the levels of violence we have... and never will because THEIR THUGS CAN'T GET GUNS.
I mean, you can sit here all day and blame just about everything else for gun violence you want. But other countries have all these same problems, but they don't have the gun violence because THEY CAN'T GET GUNS. Because that would be, you know, stupid.
Crixus
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You took what you wanted from the manifesto to form "screw trump". The dude disliked republicans to. He even said as much. He also lamented automation. In the end he was a dude who felt boxed in and hopeless. So instead of trying to get style points off a bunch of shot up people's misery, and why not think about what got that guy to that point?
Crixus
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You toss stupid around to much for a stupid guy. In the UK, guns are not illegal to own, just harder to own. Mostly the very rich get to own guns. They can also own silencers. My grand father and father used to hunt fox's with a silenced .303 Enfield. They also owned a cannon. That has changed allot, but bad guys with guns are still an issue there, and they always have. That guns are hard to come by has nothing to do with why they aren't used allot. It's the very high cost of crappy guns, and the penalties for possession and use of such. We would never have that problem here. Guns and mass shootings will always happen here. Anyway, here is a reading list so you don't look so ignorant in the future.
How illegal firearms find their way onto British streets despite tough laws
Reality Check: Where are the guns coming from?
Britain has 4m guns on streets – and 4,000 youngsters have shotgun licences
Firearms: cheap, easy to get and on a street near you
2aguy
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Moron....from the British Police......
Police struggle to stop flood of firearms into UK
Police and border officials are struggling to stop a rising supply of illegal firearms being smuggled into Britain, a senior police chief has warned.
Chief constable Andy Cooke, the national police lead for serious and organised crime, said law enforcement had seen an increased supply of guns over the past year, and feared that it would continue in 2019
The Guardian has learned that the situation is so serious that the National Crime Agency has taken the rare step of using its legal powers to direct every single police force to step up the fight against illegal guns.
The NCA has used tasking powers to direct greater intelligence about firearms to be gathered by all 43 forces in England and Wales.
Another senior law enforcement official said that “new and clean” weapons were now being used in the majority of shootings, as opposed to guns once being so difficult to obtain that they would be “rented out” to be used in multiple crimes.
Cooke, the Merseyside chief constable, told the Guardian: “We in law enforcement expect the rise in new firearms to continue. We are doing all we can. We are not in a position to stop it anytime soon.
“Law enforcement is more joined up now than before, but the scale of the problem is such that despite a number of excellent firearms seizures, I expect the rise in supply to be a continuing issue.”
The increasing supply of guns belies problems with UK border security and innovations by organised crime gangs. Smugglers have increasingly found new ways and innovative routes to get guns past border defences.
Cooke said that the dynamics of the streets of British cities had changed and that criminals were more willing to use guns: “If they bring them in people will buy them. It’s a kudos thing for organised criminals.”
Simon Brough, head of firearms at the NCA, said: “The majority of guns being used are new, clean firearms ... which indicates a relatively fluid supply.”
He said shotguns were 40% of the total, with an increase in burglaries to try and steal them.
Handguns are the next biggest category, most often smuggled in from overseas, with ferry ports such as Dover being a popular entry point into the UK for organised crime groups:
“We’re doing a lot to fight back against it,” Brough said, adding that compared to other European countries, the availability in the UK was relatively lower.
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2aguy
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They haven' had the same problem you doofus.......they had to put their countries back together after the war.......now their welfare states have reached the sociopath saturation point...single girls raising children without fathers, and now throw in violent immigrants from war torn countries....
JoeB131
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El Paso Guy didn't shoot litterers, he shot Mexicans...
Dayton Guy didn't shoot Capitalists, he shot people who were out having a good time.
Here's the thing, if we ACTUALLY had Antifa types going out and shooting the rich, we'd actually GET real common sense gun reform. But since most of the victims of your fetish are poor and working class, not so much.
Nope, his entire history indicates a hostility towards women. The guy made "Rape Lists' in High School of girls who turned him down for dates and belonged to a band that sang about violence against women. Also, six of the nine he shot were black.
Totally one of yours. Probably an InCel.
bigrebnc1775
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Bravo best round of bullshit I've seen in quite a while.
JoeB131
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I'm good with "Harder to own". In fact, Germany has 17 million privately owned guns, but they have less than 600 Gun homicides a year. Why? Because in Germany, gun ownership isn't a right, and if you own a gun, you are HEAVILY vetted.
Which is why Germany has only had a handful of Mass Shootings since WWII.
Much the same in the UK. The had mass shootings in 1987, 1996 and 2010... and that's it. Compared to the US, we have 2 mass shootings in a day sometimes!
Uh, guy, you can sit here and chant "USA" all day, but they're doing it right, and we are fucked up on this score.
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That's the case with gun grabbers too
None of you people ever mention the act that 70% of all murders occur in inner cities.
I guess they don't matter because they are poor minorities and they mostly get killed one at a time instead of in a group
Blues Man
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MAss shootings are the least of our murder problems as they account for 1% of all murders
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