Well I never pass gas.....But probably am brighter than you but it matters not.....as I have always stated The Zionist have tried to allie themselves as being inter woven with Judaism.....they are not,this Terrorist Organization is only 100 years old...........Judaism is thousands of years old and they neither follow the Torah...... they have their own separate Mantra which thankfully most Jews do not adhere to. Indie are You a Zionist?steve
I'd like to thank you for being too filled with hubris to admit that you put your foot in your mouth because you weren't expecting a guy with 40+ years studying Torah to be on a forum.
Well if that's the case then elucidate for me then.......and respond to my post above...steve
I can help you Liq-----zionism is as old as is judaism. It refers to jewish return to
he land of Israel/Judea----usually just called the "LAND OF ISRAEL" -----It is called
the land of "ISRAEL" ---because that whole nation of what LATER became called
JEWS is called THE NATION OF ISRAEL ---sometimes "the children of Israel"-----
Israel is the NAME given to JACOB (grandson of Abraham via Isaac) after he experienced
a mystical encounter with the angel GABRIEL. Gabriel can be properly translated
as "NOBLE MESSENGER OF GOD"---in angel form In jewish theology, angels are
formed beings that do things sorta ON COMISSION from God. got that??? So God
renamed JACOB "ISRAEL" which has a kind of mystical meaning mostly alluding
to Jacob as having a commission from God (that's the "el" part of the name) ---
Israel aka jacob father the 12 sons who are the founders of the ***12 tribes of israel**
They all lived in BEERSHEBA---the negev but also moved around and they owned
HEBRON thru Abraham who had purchased it-----and they moved around in what is
Israel Judea. Jacob names his son JUDAH as the family LEADER sorta--king.
Ie Judah became "the royal line"----thus "KINGDOM OF JUDAH" ----means all
THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL (eventually) so everyone became called JEWS
got it so far? The land now called the MIDDLE EAST was a war torn place----
and the KINGDOM OF JUDAH/Israel was invaded many times and the nation broken
up----its leaders deported etc etc -----but the central
issue of the NATION and RELIGION became RETURN. If you ever decide to read
the bible-----and are literate---you will be able to figure that fact out. Every time
you see the words "GO UP..." or "ASCEND.." ----those words mean a RETURN
TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL, JUDAH, ZION etc etc The whole book is FULL OF IT.
It is one of its MAJOR THEMES
The bible is an ancient writing and remains the focal point of jewish theology---most
of it is written in Hebrew and jews have maintained literacy in Hebrew ALL THIS
TIME----in an almost amazing way. Small enclaves of jews separated from
each other for thousands of years------end up able to talk to each other, I remain
amazed by that fact. Jews say off in Afghanistan somehow still knew hebrew. About
two years ago------hubby ran into an utter stranger ----who clearly did not speak
english. He seemed to have just arrived in the USA------They started speaking to
each other in fluent Hebrew. I am not entirely conversational in Hebrew----but
I did get from hubby "From where are you'?? The answer was "BOMBAY"--
born there and new to the USA From what I know about jews from Bombay---
chances are his family was there for several centuries ----immigrants from
Iran and Iraq ---having fled islamic oppression along with zoroastrians ------and every
bombay jew I ever met was fluent in Hebrew-----and several indian languages.---but
somehow also Hebrew which is certainly not a language needed for life in Bombay
for the past 500 years. There have been jews in India for more than 2000 years.
Hubby---whose family all spoke hebrew before getting to Israel ----lived in a remote
land in a community that had been outside of Israel for some 2500 years. All these
people has writings and spoken expressions indicated their firm belief that they were
EVENTUALLY going to return to ZION, AKA JERUSALEM, AKA ERETZ ISRAEL.
I have just described that which a reasonable person calls "zionism",,, but it will not
help A firm dictum of islamo nazi propaganda is "zionism was invented in 1890"