Both Sides of the Gun Debate Need to Listen to This

[Skull Pilot]

3. Gun control regulations infringes upon the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

What's an 'arm'?

If you are an American adult and don't know what the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is all about then no amount of words will be sufficient to educate you.

So you don't know either? Can you define an 'arm' or is it like pornography, you know it when you see it?

so you don't know how to use a dictionary huh?

arms | Definition of arms in English by Oxford Dictionaries

Kind of a squishy definition. Swords are arms. Does the 2nd give us the right to bear every possible kind of arm or only a limited subset?

It does not specify

 

[Skull Pilot]

The left have no motive for reason, just more gun grabbing.

The same argument can be made about licensing cars and drivers.

Say what? Someone saying driving license laws need to be changed?

No but why register cars unless we want to take them away from their owners?

You only have to register a car if you plan to drive it on government owned roads.

You have no tight to drive a car on government owned roads it is instead a privilege granted to you by the state.

You do on the other hand have a right to keep and bear arms that is not a privilege granted by the state

 

[miketx]

These Libtards don't want to hear that so they ignore it.

Just like they ignore the fact that the right to keep and bear arms has been declared by the Supreme Court as an individual right and not restricted to some state regulated militia.

Liberals are always in denial about facts.

You should tell the anti-abortion folk that the SCOTUS has spoken and the debate is over. Conservatives are always in denial about facts.

Troll talks about killing babies when the topic is civil rights.

 

[alang1216]

You register a car for several reasons, but most have to be about using one on a TAX PAYER FUNDED ROADWAY.

Do any of the reasons include a hidden agenda to confiscate the cars?

No, automobiles are not covered in the constitution.

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Neither are automatic weapons. Or should those be covered by the 2nd?

 

[alang1216]

The left have no motive for reason, just more gun grabbing.

The same argument can be made about licensing cars and drivers.

Say what? Someone saying driving license laws need to be changed?

No but why register cars unless we want to take them away from their owners?

You only have to register a car if you plan to drive it on government owned roads.

You have no tight to drive a car on government owned roads it is instead a privilege granted to you by the state.

You do on the other hand have a right to keep and bear arms that is not a privilege granted by the state

Does the state have the right to regulate said arms?

 

[alang1216]

These Libtards don't want to hear that so they ignore it.

Just like they ignore the fact that the right to keep and bear arms has been declared by the Supreme Court as an individual right and not restricted to some state regulated militia.

Liberals are always in denial about facts.

You should tell the anti-abortion folk that the SCOTUS has spoken and the debate is over. Conservatives are always in denial about facts.

Troll talks about killing babies when the topic is civil rights.

No the topic was the SCOTUS decisions. Try and keep up.

 

[alang1216]

It’s against the law to have an unregistered gun.

Not where I live it isn't unless you want an 'assault rifle' or fully automatic. Rifles and pistols don't require registration.

What's your point about registration anywho?

You want guns registered just like we do cars?

Yes. I don't really see any other way to keep them out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them: criminals, minors, nut jobs, etc. i'm open to other suggestions...

 

[Weatherman2020]

It’s against the law to have an unregistered gun.

Not where I live it isn't unless you want an 'assault rifle' or fully automatic. Rifles and pistols don't require registration.

What's your point about registration anywho?

You want guns registered just like we do cars?

Yes. I don't really see any other way to keep them out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them: criminals, minors, nut jobs, etc. i'm open to other suggestions...

Maybe you should ask why my father in the 50's used to routinely take his rifle to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards and nobody took a second glance back then.....

 

[alang1216]

It’s against the law to have an unregistered gun.

Not where I live it isn't unless you want an 'assault rifle' or fully automatic. Rifles and pistols don't require registration.

Which mass murderer used unregistered guns or guns not legally entitled to have?

Are you saying no children or criminals use unregistered guns?

 

[alang1216]

Are you really arguing that guns should be registered?

Yes. I would like to ensure that only law-abiding, trained, sane people have access to guns.

I am sorry Moon Bat but according to the Bill of Rights you don't have to get permission from the filthy ass oppressive government in order to have the right to keep and bear.

Do you even know what the Bill of Rights is?

It says very specifically that being necessary for the security of a free state the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If you have to prove to the filthy ass government that you are worthy to have that right then it really isn't a right at all, is it? In fact if you have to get permission for the filthy government to enjoy a right spelled out in the BORs then it isn't worth the paper it is written on, is it? Isn't also a case of you are guilty until the government says you are innocent. Gun control is despicable, isn't it?

Remember when that asshole Obama says that veterans are potential terrorists? Do you really want some government loony like him to determine who should have the right to keep and bear arms and who shouldn't? If you do then you are an idiot. How about the asshole Democrats in New York passing the SAFE Act and then a veteran had his firearms confiscated because he visited the doctor because of a mild case of insomnia? Do you really want government shitheads like that doling out your Constitutional rights? If you do then you are an idiot.

Would you like for me to give you some more examples of the government infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms? I think I have done that several times but you being a stupid Moon Bat don't understand.

So the government has no right to regulate guns? Is there any other right in the Constitution that can't be regulated?

 

[Weatherman2020]

It’s against the law to have an unregistered gun.

Not where I live it isn't unless you want an 'assault rifle' or fully automatic. Rifles and pistols don't require registration.

Which mass murderer used unregistered guns or guns not legally entitled to have?

Are you saying no children or criminals use unregistered guns?

You offered a solution. Why can't you name one mass shooting it would have prevented?

 

[alang1216]

Are you really arguing that guns should be registered?

Yes. I would like to ensure that only law-abiding, trained, sane people have access to guns.

trained is not a requirement. Sane and law abiding, after due process is acceptable.

You may want to live in a country where you can have a gun and not know how to use it but I don't.

 

[alang1216]

It’s against the law to have an unregistered gun.

Not where I live it isn't unless you want an 'assault rifle' or fully automatic. Rifles and pistols don't require registration.

Which mass murderer used unregistered guns or guns not legally entitled to have?

Are you saying no children or criminals use unregistered guns?

You offered a solution. Why can't you name one mass shooting it would have prevented?

You brought up mass shootings not me, that is your straw man. Most gun deaths/injuries are not mass shootings.

 

[alang1216]

Kind of a squishy definition. Swords are arms. Does the 2nd give us the right to bear every possible kind of arm or only a limited subset?

It does not specify

So we can regulate and or ban certain guns under the Constitution then. Since it doesn't specify.

 

[Weatherman2020]

It’s against the law to have an unregistered gun.

Not where I live it isn't unless you want an 'assault rifle' or fully automatic. Rifles and pistols don't require registration.

Which mass murderer used unregistered guns or guns not legally entitled to have?

Are you saying no children or criminals use unregistered guns?

You offered a solution. Why can't you name one mass shooting it would have prevented?

You brought up mass shootings not me, that is your straw man. Most gun deaths/injuries are not mass shootings.

OK, how many shootings period would your proposal prevent each year?

 

[EGR one]

The left have no motive for reason, just more gun grabbing.

The same argument can be made about licensing cars and drivers.

Driving a vehicle on public roads is not a right, and therefore your argument is moot.

 

[EGR one]

You register a car for several reasons, but most have to be about using one on a TAX PAYER FUNDED ROADWAY.

Do any of the reasons include a hidden agenda to confiscate the cars?

What legitimate government purpose would gun registration serve, other than taxing guns or confiscating them?

 

[EGR one]

The left have no motive for reason, just more gun grabbing.

The same argument can be made about licensing cars and drivers.

Say what? Someone saying driving license laws need to be changed?

No but why register cars unless we want to take them away from their owners?

You only have to register a car if you plan to drive it on government owned roads.

You have no tight to drive a car on government owned roads it is instead a privilege granted to you by the state.

You do on the other hand have a right to keep and bear arms that is not a privilege granted by the state

Does the state have the right to regulate said arms?

The state can only restrict a constitutional right, if the state can show a compelling need to do so, and then only if doing so is the least restrictive means of solving that compelling need.

 

[EGR one]

Are you really arguing that guns should be registered?

Yes. I would like to ensure that only law-abiding, trained, sane people have access to guns.

trained is not a requirement. Sane and law abiding, after due process is acceptable.

You may want to live in a country where you can have a gun and not know how to use it but I don't.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Pop23]

It’s against the law to have an unregistered gun.

Not where I live it isn't unless you want an 'assault rifle' or fully automatic. Rifles and pistols don't require registration.

What's your point about registration anywho?

You want guns registered just like we do cars?

Yes. I don't really see any other way to keep them out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them: criminals, minors, nut jobs, etc. i'm open to other suggestions...

Your suggestion is to take from the law abiding because a criminal........

They don't give a crap about your bans, they're criminals, they will commit violent crimes regardless. Murder, Rape or whatever.

So why do you want to make women more accessible to their rapists?