Bolton : "This is madness. Trump has no idea how he ´ll negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine" I Gen. Hodges: " Beating Moscow is Our Only Choice "

[jc456]

No, i am suggesting that Ukraine citizens (and we) have no choice . our Victory or... extermination ...






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Gen. Hodges: " Beating Moscow empire is Our Only Choice "

I just told you ukraine's choice trump and drill baby drill and taking money out of the conflict. And you went to defending Putin killing ukraine citizens. wow.

 

[ozro]

Russia, Ukraine, and Social Media and Messaging Apps

Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, companies providing social media and messaging services have taken a wide array of steps to counter harmful disinformation, to label or block state-sponsored or state-affiliated media, and to counter platform manipulation.

www.hrw.org

 

[jc456]

Russia, Ukraine, and Social Media and Messaging Apps

Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, companies providing social media and messaging services have taken a wide array of steps to counter harmful disinformation, to label or block state-sponsored or state-affiliated media, and to counter platform manipulation.

www.hrw.org

nice disinformation!!!

 

[Litwin]

I just told you ukraine's choice trump and drill baby drill and taking money out of the conflict

this is a very cheap war , we EU&USA are 50 stronger than Moscow empire.

GREAT NEWS FOR US LNG ! The largest buyer of Muscovite (STOLEN SIBERIAN) gas in the EU has canceled its contract with Moscow empire. US Becomes Top

Gazprom, the fall of a jewel of the Moscow empire Gazprom's setbacks complicate Putin's situation since the outcome of the war has a financial aspect. The Moscow empire's cash cow recorded historic losses of $6.8 billion for 2023. Massive loss at Putin's firm signals bankruptcy👍...

www.usmessageboard.com

GREAT NEWS FOR USA LNG, Moscow gas exports collapse to 1985 levels

It is time to turn this tap off completely. Moscow Mongol ulus going back in time cause forward is too scary... 2023, the gas monopoly sold about 69 billion cubic meters of gas for export - the lowest volume since 1985, according to Reuters calculations.Compared to 2022 (100.9 billion cubic...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Litwin]

Russia, Ukraine, and Social Media and Messaging Apps

Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, companies providing social media and messaging services have taken a wide array of steps to counter harmful disinformation, to label or block state-sponsored or state-affiliated media, and to counter platform manipulation.

www.hrw.org

 

[healthmyths]

I voted YES ! Trump doesn't even understand the conflict or its consequences. He has an overly simplistic view of the world and proposes overly simplified "solutions".

ABSOLUTELY "simplified solutions"!
Are you a billionaire? Have you been elected President of the USA? Do you have advisors that have had military experiences to advise you ...NOW?
Here is a simple idea that I'm sure Trump has considered or considering...
A) In 2012, Ukraine's export-oriented arms industry had reached the status of world's 4th largest arms exporter. Since the start of the war in Donbas, Ukraine's military industry has focused more on its internal arms market and as a result slipped to the 9th spot among top global arms exporters by 2015,11th spot by 2018 and the 12th spot among global arms exporters by 2019. In 2019, the main importers of Ukrainian weapons were India, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Defense industry of Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

B) Russia's GDP In 2023, it was the world's 11th-largest economy by nominal GDP at $2.0 trillion.

Economy of Russia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So what if Trump offered Russia an overly simplified "solutions" and approved by Zelinskyy who by the way has spoken to Trump..

Trump and Zelenskyy hold phone call — and Ukraine says it liked what it heard​

Trump said that it was a “very good call” and that he will work to negotiate a peace deal between Moscow and Kyiv. A person close to Zelenskyy who requested anonymity to discuss the private conversation said it went “exceedingly well” and that Trump pledged to “achieve a just peace in Ukraine” if he wins back the White House.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/trump-zelenskyy-ukraine-call-00169905

What if Trump suggest that Russia would get a tariff on Ukraine's arms exporter and USA would guarantee to buy from
Ukraine a percentage of the USA procurement of weapons and systems cost $142 billion in 2023 and $122 billion was spent on research and development of weapons and equipment. So if USA agreed to buy at least $50 billion a year
from Ukraine and Russia would earn a tariff of 20% or $10 billion from the USA... IF Russia pulled out completely of Ukraine and all warfare would cease.

Just one simple plan!

 

[Clipper]

I've often noted I do not support anyone taking the life of another. I condemned someone trying to do so with Trump.

I condemned Obama for killing an American citizen especially when he disregarded due process.

I have noted that my one exception of course was direct self defense.

With that being the case, it might not bother me much if someone took out Bolton. He is constantly trying his best to get thousand and thousands American's killed.

How is Bolton trying to get American killed? We have no military on the ground in Ukraine & no one including Bolton has suggested that we do.

Bolton should know what Trump is all about considering he spent hours with him in the W.H. exposed to his stupidity & insanity.

 

[jc456]

If it's so cheap, why is the US giving out the money? Again, the only reason Putin advanced was NATO. drill baby drill removes the threat to bring Ukraine in, then it's really cheap, no war.

 

[pknopp]

How is Bolton trying to get American killed? We have no military on the ground in Ukraine & no one including Bolton has suggested that we do.

Bolton should know what Trump is all about considering he spent hours with him in the W.H. exposed to his stupidity & insanity.

Bolton has never seen a war he wouldn't support and that includes getting us directly involved.

 

[jc456]

How is Bolton trying to get American killed? We have no military on the ground in Ukraine & no one including Bolton has suggested that we do.

Bolton should know what Trump is all about considering he spent hours with him in the W.H. exposed to his stupidity & insanity.

liar

What U.S. intelligence leaks say about American troops in Ukraine

Dozens of leaked U.S. intelligence documents about the war in Ukraine and other national security issues were found online last month.

www.newsweek.com

trove of leaked classified documents from the Defense Department suggests that more than a dozen American troops have been operating in Ukraine.

 

[munkle]

You mean the way we got rewarded for invading Iraq?

 

[berg80]

With Trump, USA's bow for Putin will be the end of USA as protector of the free world. And a betrayal of Europe - Japan - Free World . The world order will change with Trump. No rules anymore. Invader just got rewarded. Chaos and wars will come for sure. Save the world and by saving America.

still , do you agree with ex-adviser on national security John Bolton?

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This is nuts. He has no idea how he's going to negotiate an end to this war, except, I think, that his affinity for vladimir putin will lead to concessions to the Moscow side that are going to be devastating for Ukraine. So, I think this is a very dark moment."


Gen. Hodges: " Beating Moscow empire is Our Only Choice "

“It’s very bad news for Ukraine. Look, I think, Donald Trump doesn't have a philosophy, he doesn't do policy, he does deals, that's how he sees the world. And he said in his statement about the conversation with Zelenskyy:‘ I as your next President of the United States, will bring peace to the world, and end the war that has cost so many lives and devastated countless innocent families.' ""Now, I'm not a shrink. But I know the technical term for somebody who says 'I will bring peace to the world'. This is nuts. He has no idea how he's going to negotiate an end to this war, except, I think, that his affinity for vladimir putin will lead to concessions to the Russian side that are going to be devastating for Ukraine. So, I think this is a very dark moment."

Does he really believe god saved him from that bullet? Does he really believe he alone can fix it? Or that a bombastic buffoon can bring peace to the world?

Sounds like someone has an orange jesus complex.

 

[berg80]

this is a very cheap war , we EU&USA are 50 stronger than Moscow empire.

GREAT NEWS FOR US LNG ! The largest buyer of Muscovite (STOLEN SIBERIAN) gas in the EU has canceled its contract with Moscow empire. US Becomes Top

Gazprom, the fall of a jewel of the Moscow empire Gazprom's setbacks complicate Putin's situation since the outcome of the war has a financial aspect. The Moscow empire's cash cow recorded historic losses of $6.8 billion for 2023. Massive loss at Putin's firm signals bankruptcy👍...

www.usmessageboard.com

GREAT NEWS FOR USA LNG, Moscow gas exports collapse to 1985 levels

It is time to turn this tap off completely. Moscow Mongol ulus going back in time cause forward is too scary... 2023, the gas monopoly sold about 69 billion cubic meters of gas for export - the lowest volume since 1985, according to Reuters calculations.Compared to 2022 (100.9 billion cubic...

www.usmessageboard.com

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Russia's move to slash gas supplies to Europe after its invasion of Ukraine didn't just spark a frantic search for alternative providers. It also forced the European Union to drastically drive down its fuel use. Since 2022, the bloc has slashed demand by 18-20 percent each year.

Some countries, such as Finland, Denmark and Lithuania, have virtually halved their demand, meaning they need far less gas than at any time in recent history, according to a report from the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis. And despite funding challenges and uneven implementation, the bloc has seen renewable power skyrocket as part of a plan to be carbon neutral by 2050.

"We expect that demand for natural gas is going to continue declining at pace," said Georg Zachmann, a senior fellow at economics think tank Bruegel. "Given we have these climate commitments, the expectation is that demand will be lower by 2030, even lower by 2040, with the effect that there is no long-term gas demand in Europe."

Several EU countries have ambitions to phase out fossil gas over the next decade, ahead of a 2050 climate neutrality target.

‘Drill, baby, drill’: America’s fossil fuel boom risks bust in Europe

Both Trump and Biden are pushing lucrative U.S. fossil fuel deals — a risky bet given the EU’s plans to wean itself off the energy source.

www.politico.eu

EU demand for NG and LNG is collapsing.

 

[jc456]

“It’s very bad news for Ukraine. Look, I think, Donald Trump doesn't have a philosophy, he doesn't do policy, he does deals, that's how he sees the world. And he said in his statement about the conversation with Zelenskyy:‘ I as your next President of the United States, will bring peace to the world, and end the war that has cost so many lives and devastated countless innocent families.' ""Now, I'm not a shrink. But I know the technical term for somebody who says 'I will bring peace to the world'. This is nuts. He has no idea how he's going to negotiate an end to this war, except, I think, that his affinity for vladimir putin will lead to concessions to the Russian side that are going to be devastating for Ukraine. So, I think this is a very dark moment."

Does he really believe god saved him from that bullet? Does he really believe he alone can fix it? Or that a bombastic buffoon can bring peace to the world?

Sounds like someone has an orange jesus complex.

so you know, drill baby drill is a policy. It will increase oil production and lower costs of gas and natural gas, easing prices at the stores and slowing creepy's inflation.

 

[jc456]

so you know, drill baby drill is a policy. It will increase oil production and lower costs of gas and natural gas, easing prices at the stores and slowing creepy's inflation.

pknopp , creepy’s policy was go full EV, cut oil, gas prices surged to 8.00 a gallon, prices went up and inflation went up drastically. But you don’t think that is true. Wow

 

[Litwin]

or Putin is getting ready for WW3??

no he knows that he can´t win.

back to out topic.

This is a winning strategy (+ drone oil- gas sanctions )

Denmark and Sweden: how to stop the ‘shadow fleet’

On 16 June, Denmark’s foreign minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen announced that Copenhagen had assembled a coalition of countries to evaluate the possibility of introducing new restrictions against the ‘shadow fleet’ in the Baltic Sea. These are old, dilapidated tankers transporting Russian oil, and...

www.osw.waw.pl

1) would you personally support this strategy ?
2) would Trump support it ?

 

[Litwin]

Russia's move to slash gas supplies to Europe after its invasion of Ukraine didn't just spark a frantic search for alternative providers. It also forced the European Union to drastically drive down its fuel use. Since 2022, the bloc has slashed demand by 18-20 percent each year.

Some countries, such as Finland, Denmark and Lithuania, have virtually halved their demand, meaning they need far less gas than at any time in recent history, according to a report from the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis. And despite funding challenges and uneven implementation, the bloc has seen renewable power skyrocket as part of a plan to be carbon neutral by 2050.

"We expect that demand for natural gas is going to continue declining at pace," said Georg Zachmann, a senior fellow at economics think tank Bruegel. "Given we have these climate commitments, the expectation is that demand will be lower by 2030, even lower by 2040, with the effect that there is no long-term gas demand in Europe."

Several EU countries have ambitions to phase out fossil gas over the next decade, ahead of a 2050 climate neutrality target.

‘Drill, baby, drill’: America’s fossil fuel boom risks bust in Europe

Both Trump and Biden are pushing lucrative U.S. fossil fuel deals — a risky bet given the EU’s plans to wean itself off the energy source.

www.politico.eu

EU demand for NG and LNG is collapsing.

EU needs nuclear power, many new modular reactors ...

 

[pknopp]

pknopp , creepy’s policy was go full EV, cut oil, gas prices surged to 8.00 a gallon, prices went up and inflation went up drastically. But you don’t think that is true. Wow

Do you expect me to reply? If so you need to say something worth replying to.

 

[Litwin]

******* , coward, jihadi Maskali took a cover behind of The Arctic Circle ( Finnish artillery striking distance ) . are you guys still afraid of them ?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

With Trump, USA's bow for Putin will be the end of USA as protector of the free world. And a betrayal of Europe - Japan - Free World . The world order will change with Trump. No rules anymore. Invader just got rewarded. Chaos and wars will come for sure. Save the world and by saving America.

still , do you agree with ex-adviser on national security John Bolton?

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This is nuts. He has no idea how he's going to negotiate an end to this war, except, I think, that his affinity for vladimir putin will lead to concessions to the Moscow side that are going to be devastating for Ukraine. So, I think this is a very dark moment."


Gen. Hodges: " Beating Moscow empire is Our Only Choice "

Severe TDS post.