Boiler madness

[Captain Caveman]

In the UK, we get hot water and radiator heating from a boiler that runs on gas, calor bottle gas, or oil. But according to the environmental clan and government, these are nasty to the planet and new ones will be phased out by 2035. So you would have to buy a heat pump. Just looks like an enormous air-conditioning unit that standards outside.

The cost to buy and install one is £8,000 although government grants for £7,500 are currently available. But, and there's always a but. Many homes need additional work in order to install one and that average cost is......£5,690.

So how much do boilers and heat pumps cost to run? Well, traditional boilers are about £1,100 to run per year and the environmental clan rejoice that a heat pump is about £900 a year.

So I can save £200 a year and save the environment. Excellent, it's a win win. Hang on, I found my calculator. So I pay £500 to buy it and £5,690 to install it, so I spend £6,190. I divide that by £200, so I will break even in 30.95 years? But it won't last 31 years, so I will have that cost several times over. Then if I paid that, just a few years later and move house, I might have to buy another one? What's the pay back period when grants disappear? A heat pump is two to three times the cost of a traditional boiler.

How much does a heat pump cost? A 2024 Guide - British Gas

Interested in switching to a heat pump? Find out how much an air source heat pump costs with prices starting from £XXXX and finance options available.

www.britishgas.co.uk

The starting price for heat pump installation with British Gas is £7,999 – or £499 after the £7,500 government grant is added.

However, many homes do need extra work to get the best performance from a heat pump. After the £7,500 government grant, the average price for our customers in 2023 was £5,690.

How much does a heat pump cost to run? | Good Energy

Heat pump running costs explained - find out how much heat pumps cost to run compared to gas boilers, LPG boilers and oil boilers.

www.goodenergy.co.uk

This link shows running costs ^^^

 

[1srelluc]

I'm with you on this one. Boiler (hot water radiator) is some great heat.

 

[JGalt]

I doubt the UK's electrical grid could handle the load of hundreds of thousands of people switching over to heat pumps.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I'm with you on this one. Boiler (hot water radiator) is some great heat.

Well, folk are gonna have to take out loans to heat their home but make sure the term doesn't go beyond the life span of the heat pump. But some won't be able to get loans of that size in the first place. In the future, I can see a percentage of people not having heating, just use an immersion heater when you want a bath.

Councils are knocking on doors when they see smoke coming out of chimney pots to see if it's the correct wood. Wood burners are now banned in Scotland for new build properties, unless you live out in the sticks where there's no alternative.

The place has gone mad, the UK's pollution level v's those countries that don't do anything? Utterly crazy. In this day and age, people shouldn't have to worry on how to keep warm.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I doubt the UK's electrical grid could handle the load of hundreds of thousands of people switching over to heat pumps.

Plus cars

 

[Dekster]

In the UK, we get hot water and radiator heating from a boiler that runs on gas, calor bottle gas, or oil. But according to the environmental clan and government, these are nasty to the planet and new ones will be phased out by 2035. So you would have to buy a heat pump. Just looks like an enormous air-conditioning unit that standards outside.

The cost to buy and install one is £8,000 although government grants for £7,500 are currently available. But, and there's always a but. Many homes need additional work in order to install one and that average cost is......£5,690.

So how much do boilers and heat pumps cost to run? Well, traditional boilers are about £1,100 to run per year and the environmental clan rejoice that a heat pump is about £900 a year.

So I can save £200 a year and save the environment. Excellent, it's a win win. Hang on, I found my calculator. So I pay £500 to buy it and £5,690 to install it, so I spend £6,190. I divide that by £200, so I will break even in 30.95 years? But it won't last 31 years, so I will have that cost several times over. Then if I paid that, just a few years later and move house, I might have to buy another one? What's the pay back period when grants disappear? A heat pump is two to three times the cost of a traditional boiler.

How much does a heat pump cost? A 2024 Guide - British Gas

Interested in switching to a heat pump? Find out how much an air source heat pump costs with prices starting from £XXXX and finance options available.

www.britishgas.co.uk

The starting price for heat pump installation with British Gas is £7,999 – or £499 after the £7,500 government grant is added.

However, many homes do need extra work to get the best performance from a heat pump. After the £7,500 government grant, the average price for our customers in 2023 was £5,690.

How much does a heat pump cost to run? | Good Energy

Heat pump running costs explained - find out how much heat pumps cost to run compared to gas boilers, LPG boilers and oil boilers.

www.goodenergy.co.uk

This link shows running costs ^^^

Get you one that has air conditioning too, so you can use it on those blistering heat wave days. The additional work is duct work which you would need anyway with a heat pump.

 

[luiza]

However "way out "it may sound to the Cognitively Rigid, we will have Zero Point Energy well before 2035 .

But , regardless , as you all listened and bought Precious Metals in the mid twenties , such detail and trivial financial problems are not part of your life

 

[Captain Caveman]

Get you one that has air conditioning too, so you can use it on those blistering heat wave days. The additional work is duct work which you would need anyway with a heat pump.

I have a fan, I use it about 4 to 6 evenings a year so it doesn't warrant having air con. These are monthly average temperatures where I live -

Those "blistering" heat waves don't happen because it's still warmer in Gran Canaria when I go on holiday

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In the UK, we get hot water and radiator heating from a boiler that runs on gas, calor bottle gas, or oil. But according to the environmental clan and government, these are nasty to the planet and new ones will be phased out by 2035. So you would have to buy a heat pump. Just looks like an enormous air-conditioning unit that standards outside.

The cost to buy and install one is £8,000 although government grants for £7,500 are currently available. But, and there's always a but. Many homes need additional work in order to install one and that average cost is......£5,690.

So how much do boilers and heat pumps cost to run? Well, traditional boilers are about £1,100 to run per year and the environmental clan rejoice that a heat pump is about £900 a year.

So I can save £200 a year and save the environment. Excellent, it's a win win. Hang on, I found my calculator. So I pay £500 to buy it and £5,690 to install it, so I spend £6,190. I divide that by £200, so I will break even in 30.95 years? But it won't last 31 years, so I will have that cost several times over. Then if I paid that, just a few years later and move house, I might have to buy another one? What's the pay back period when grants disappear? A heat pump is two to three times the cost of a traditional boiler.

How much does a heat pump cost? A 2024 Guide - British Gas

Interested in switching to a heat pump? Find out how much an air source heat pump costs with prices starting from £XXXX and finance options available.

www.britishgas.co.uk

The starting price for heat pump installation with British Gas is £7,999 – or £499 after the £7,500 government grant is added.

However, many homes do need extra work to get the best performance from a heat pump. After the £7,500 government grant, the average price for our customers in 2023 was £5,690.

How much does a heat pump cost to run? | Good Energy

Heat pump running costs explained - find out how much heat pumps cost to run compared to gas boilers, LPG boilers and oil boilers.

www.goodenergy.co.uk

This link shows running costs ^^^

Why do you hate the planet?

Denier!!!

 

[Dekster]

I have a fan, I use it about 4 to 6 evenings a year so it doesn't warrant having air con. These are monthly average temperatures where I live -

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Those "blistering" heat waves don't happen because it's still warmer in Gran Canaria when I go on holiday

It gets 105 F here on the bad days (about 40C). A fan doesn't cut it. I use natural gas for heat and the AC uses freon, both of which are on the kill list for the left.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Why do you hate the planet?

Denier!!!

Makes you wonder why alarmists deny the planet is in a co2 drought and plants grow better in much higher levels of co2. Paying more in equipment and tax won't eradicate the perceived dilemma that they mentally suffer from.