Boasberg’s Judicial Coup Update: Judge Gives President Trump Deadline of Tuesday for Compliance

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

No, it is not. He wants the status quo until he decides, and if the executive wishes, he can appeal.

The status quo has been letting tens of millions of illegals into the country.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not really

Really. Yeah.

 

[scruffy]

Not under Title 50 without a judicial hearing he wasn't. That's what this is all about.

No it isn't. It's about deporting alien terrorists.

THE JUDGE ORDERED THE PLANE TO TURN AROUND.

He has no authority to do that. Under Title 50 or any other law.

This is about a partisan corrupt leftard judge exceeding his authority and legislating from the bench.

 

[scruffy]

Whether or not these individuals are part of this gang, or if the Alien and Sedition Act could be applied to them is something to be determined individually at court hearings.

And which state is supposedly sponsoring Tren De Aragua, and according to who? Here's Trump's EO. It makes no such claim.

And my argument isn't that Trump can't use the Alien and Sedition Act. Its that the use of the Alien and Sedition Act outside of a declared war is questionable. And that its applicability per individual under Title 50 would be determined at a court hearing.

And it really not my argument. Its the judge's in this case.

"They justifiably feared that, in a matter of hours, they might be removed from the country pursuant not
to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, but instead the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a law
last invoked in the wake of Pearl Harbor as the nation was preparing for a world war. That Act
authorizes the President to summarily remove “natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects” of a
“hostile nation or government” when there is “declared war” against it or when it has
“perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States” an “invasion or
predatory incursion.” 50 U.S.C. § 21.

And you're right. We'll see. All I can do is cite the federal judiciary's current position on the matter. The judge's argument is compelling. As 50 U.S.C. § 21 is specific to declared wars or invasions/predatory incursions by foreign nation or government.

Which foreign nation or government would be making this incursions, exactly? Because it sounds like Trump is attempting to declare the gang itself as a nation or government. Which would be a real ******* stretch.

You're being an idiot.

The law I cited states explicitly the definition of a terrorist.

The President determines what constitutes national security.

Not a judge.

Any member of a declared terrorist organization can be deported immediately without a hearing. That is the law. Nothing else matters.

 

[scruffy]

I don't support criminal terrorist illegal aliens.

I'm fine with them being arrested, confined for public safety, receive due process.

They don't get due.process. They get DEPORTED.

They're not entitled to due process. They're entitled to EXPULSION.

If they are criminals, then have a trial, convict them and SEND THEM THEM to prison. Only deport them AFTER they have served their senteance after receiving Due Process.

NO.

They're not entitled to taxpayer money.

Let Venezuela pay for their room and board.

And the Judge in this case has not stopped the arrest, detainment, and deportation under other sections of the United States Code. The judge simple ordered that Trumps action violate the law he claimed.

WW

THE JUDGE ORDERED THE PLANE TO TURN AROUND, doofus.

He doesn't have that authority.

 

[WorldWatcher]

They don't get due.process. They get DEPORTED.

They're not entitled to due process. They're entitled to EXPULSION.

All persons get due process, don't you believe in the Constitution?

NO.

They're not entitled to taxpayer money.

Let Venezuela pay for their room and board.

Psst - The Trump administration is paying millions to El Salvador to hold them in prison.

That's tax payer money.

THE JUDGE ORDERED THE PLANE TO TURN AROUND, doofus.

The judge also order the TRO PRIOR to the planes departing.

He doesn't have that authority.

Sure he does.

WW

WW

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'm fully willing to review any evidence presented in court as part of the decision making process by the District Judges, the Appeals Court, and the Supreme Court as to the validity of Trumps claims that the government of Venezuala engineered an invasion.

WW

Always a good idea. Almost always. In this case decisions are not judicially reviewable under the applicable law.

I anticipate Team Trump simply explaining that to the public rather than engaging the courts at any level in such a debate. They are humoring this Boasberg guy, but they will soon tire of that waste of time.

What’s next? Some lower court judge demanding a debate over the details of the Ukraine peace plan? TRO’s by a part-time federal magistrate to prevent President Trump from signing a bill?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

What's next?

Team Trump explaining to the question of Team Roberts: "What the **** do you think you are up to."

 

[Seymour Flops]

What's next?

Team Trump explaining to the question of Team Roberts: "What the **** do you think you are up to."

With Roberts using such simplified language, I suppose Trump would simply respond, “Presidenting!”

If he responded at at all.

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is not a Monarch, to be reported to by the President like the Prime Minister to King Charles.

 

[scruffy]

All persons get due process, don't you believe in the Constitution?



Psst - The Trump administration is paying millions to El Salvador to hold them in prison.

That's tax payer money.



The judge also order the TRO PRIOR to the planes departing.



Sure he does.

WW

WW

Due process for alien terrorists is immediate deportation. That is the law.

We COULD just shoot them, but that would be unconstitutional.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

With Roberts using such simplified language, I suppose Trump would simply respond, “Presidenting!”

If he responded at at all.

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is not a Monarch, to be reported to by the President like the Prime Minister to King Charles.

No one side he was, and that is not how it is.

SCOTUS does prevent the President from constitutional overreach.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No one side he was, and that is not how it is.

Your description of SCOTUS demanding President Trump explain himself sounds exactly like a monarchy.

If that was hyperbole, fine.

SCOTUS does prevent the President from constitutional overreach.

If someone with standing brings a case in which he can show that a presidential action is clearly forbidden under the Constitution, the SCOTUS may issue a Ruling that the president must stop doing that.

However, such a ruling is not enforceable, nor is the president constitution required to follow it.

If you disagree show me the part of the constitution that dispute what I just said.

Question for you: is it theoretically possible That a Supreme Court or lower court could issue a ruling for which the results of following that ruling would be so Catastrophic that it would be the duty of the president to ignore that ruling?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Your description of SCOTUS demanding President Trump explain himself sounds exactly like a monarchy.

If that was hyperbole, fine.

If someone with standing brings a case in which he can show that a presidential action is clearly forbidden under the Constitution, the SCOTUS may issue a Ruling that the president must stop doing that.

However, such a ruling is not enforceable, nor is the president constitution required to follow it.

If you disagree show me the part of the constitution that dispute what I just said.

Question for you: is it theoretically possible That a Supreme Court or lower court could issue a ruling for which the results of following that ruling would be so Catastrophic that it would be the duty of the president to ignore that ruling?

How? Is answering to the law and explaining monarchial?

Where? And if a situation evolved like that, sure. But the flights do not come above 1 on a scale of 1 to 500.

 

[Seymour Flops]

How? Is answering to the law and explaining monarchial?

Well, it is not, if the president choses to provide answers to the court. So long as the court doesn’t try to somehow enforce such a request. Could the president order a judge to rule in a certain way on a case? Of course not. We have separation of powers, not an all-powerful executive, nor an all-powerful judiciary.

Honestly, I don’t know what the point is in even responding to such a demand. There is no universe in which Donald Trump, or any reasonable president, Would have or will ever bring back those terrorist gang members to inflict them on the people of the United States.

It was a nonsensical order, and if that judge were anything, but a Trump deranged Democrat, he would’ve realize that. I fault some of the people around him. Surely not all of them are so Trump deranged as to think that it would be a good idea to subject American citizens to murder, rapist and drug dealers just to pwn Trump.

Those who have their faculties about them should have warned that judge what he was doing.

Where? And if a situation evolved like that, sure. But the flights do not come above 1 on a scale of 1 to 500.

Sending the flights out was a minor matter, I agree. Getting rid of undesirable aliens in the country unlawfully is done every day in ever country. Obama and Biden both did it, and bragged about it - especially close to election time.

Ordering them brought back, specifically a planeload of the suspected members of an extremely violent gang would indeed be a catastrophe. There is virtually no chance that all of them would suddenly decide to be law-abiding and live peaceful lives without hurting anyone. Americans would have died, if not rival gang members, then some of the corrections officers charged with guarding them.

A catostopic order is the current situation with Judge Biasberg and he’s not anywhere close to John Roberts on the totem pole. To think that Trump even considered obeying this wreckless order from a low-level judge is pretty silly.

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Well, it is not. So long as the court doesn’t try to somehow enforce such a request.

Honestly, I don’t know what the point would be. There is no universe in which Donald Trump, or any reasonable president, Would have or will ever bring back those terrorist gang members to inflict them on the people of the United States.

It was a nonsensical order, and if that judge were anything, but a Trump deranged Democrat, he would’ve realize that. I fault some of the people around him. Surely not all of them are so Trump deranged as to think that it would be a good idea to subject American citizens to murder, rapist and drug dealers just to pwn Trump.

Those who have their faculties about them should have warned that judge what he was doing.

It is the current situation with Judge Biasberg except that he’s not anywhere close to John Roberts.

SCOTUS will defend its territory, and Judge Biasberg comes with it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

SCOTUS will defend its territory, and Judge Biasberg comes with it.

The president will defend his, along with the people of the United States. This president, anyway.

Will the court use "actual weapons" like that Jefferies guy said Democrats need to?

Best way to defend Judge Biasberg is to tell him to stop acting like a monarch, and start acting like a judge.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Jeffries did not, and dems would not and republicans are too scared.

They will work it out.

 

[Mac-7]

SCOTUS will defend its territory, and Judge Biasberg comes with it.

Boasberg’s Judicial Coup Update: Judge Gives President Trump Deadline of Tuesday for Compliance​

Did trump comply?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not yet.

 

[Hollie]

Judge Boasberg standing up for the Constitution and the Rule of Law from those that want to undermine it.

Judges like Boasberg are hero’s standing up for the Republic.

Boasberg, a hero of the criminal illegal alien huggers.