Blame a Sudden Heat Spike for the Arctic Temperatures in the Midwest

[Billy_Bob]

A (another) WEATHER event has brought alot of the Denialist Clowns out but..


Blame a Sudden Heat Spike for the Arctic Temperatures in the Midwest
After a section of stratosphere experienced a rapid rise in temperature, part of the polar vortex broke off and pockets of arctic air moved south
By Brianna Abbott
Jan. 30, 2019 - Wall Street Journal
Blame a Sudden Heat Spike for the Arctic Temperatures in the Midwest

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"....Around Jan. 2, part of the stratosphere experienced a rapid rise in temperature of 50 degrees Fahrenheit in just a few days, NOAA says. The process—called a sudden stratospheric warming—split the unstable polar vortex.

When part of the polar vortex broke off, pockets of arctic air moved south, which is what is causing the current cold snap, meteorologists say.

Some climate scientists believe that warming in the Arctic due to climate change may be destabilizing the polar vortex, according to a 2017 study in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, creating more extreme weather events. Cold temperature extremes, however, have become less severe and less frequent overall in recent decades, while extreme heat events are now more severe and more frequent."..."
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What.. Everyone 12 years old now? This idiot hasn't studied history and past earth cycles..

 

[Billy_Bob]

dude, you're truly funny. this is so stupid no point in debating, and instead just state how stupid your premise is.

So the same thing happen 40 years ago. and what?

no climate change right?

considering the fact the OP has ZERO credibility here and never even trys to refute facts when backed up against the wall with nowhere to run,that proves the article is BS.

Hardly.

Polar vortex weakening - the meandering of the jet stream that is driving Arctic air into the us midwest - is due to the pattern of global warming that drives Arctic temperatures up faster than those on the equator. Telling us it must be false because you don't like the OP is logical bullshit.

Crick and his bull shit!

The thinning atmosphere, low solar wind pressures on our atmosphere, and reduced solar output are the primary cause. It is Cyclical and seen over and over during cooling cycles throught earths history. Your argument is fallacy!

 

[Billy_Bob]

How about a little history to thump on the 'revisionist history' of the OP..

"February 1936 was the coldest February on record in the contiguous U.S., narrowly eclipsing February 1899.[1] It also was the coldest month ever in Nebraska, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

The meteorological winter (December through February) of 1935/36 was the coldest on record for Iowa,[2] Minnesota,[3] North Dakota,[4] and South Dakota.[5] This winter was much colder than the immediately preceding winters. 1930 through 1934 had very mild winters in the U.S. 1930/31 was warm in the western north central states; 1931/32 in the mid- and south-Atlantic states, the eastern north central states, and the eastern south central states; 1932/33 in New England; and, 1933/34 in the mountain and Pacific states.[6] In the northern plains, the Februaries of 1925, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1931, and 1935 are among the 25 warmest Februaries between 1895 and 2017, although 1929 had the third-coldest February of all-time.[7]

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The sea froze partially as far south as Chesapeake Bay.[citation needed] From January 25 to 28, the east had its coldest January temperatures in eighteen years, with Washington, D. C. averaging 14 °F (−10.0 °C)[18] High winds in some locations caused wind chills below −85 °F (−65.0 °C). In Ohio and the Centralia district of Illinois,[19] the cold destroyed the peach crop, whilst defective heaters caused numerous dangerous fires in Minnesota.[18]

The Cold wave of January 1977 produced the only known trace of snow in the greater Miami area of Florida ever reported, although the city itself did not report any snow (a trace of snow was documented in Lake Worth). It occurred following the passage of a strong cold front, in combination with a high-pressure area situated over the Mississippi River Valley. As a result, cold air moved far to the south across Florida, causing both snow flurries and record low temperatures. Most notably, the weather system brought snow flurries (seen in the air, but not on the ground) as far south as Homestead on January 19. No snow had ever been reported in southeastern Florida before or since.

January 1977 is the coldest month on record in the state of Ohio, with an average temperature of 11.9 degrees. Snowfall was above average throughout the month and the all-time record low of −25 °F (−32 °C) was set in Cincinnati. The Ohio River froze solid for the first time since 1918, halting commercial shipping for weeks. Some parts of northern Ohio stayed below freezing for the entire month [10]. Temperatures did not rise above freezing the entire month in a swath from eastern Iowa to western Pennsylvania northward."

 

[abu afak]

How about a little history to thump on the 'revisionist history' of the OP..

"February 1936 was the coldest February on record in the contiguous U.S., narrowly eclipsing February 1899.[1] It also was the coldest month ever in Nebraska, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

The meteorological winter (December through February) of 1935/36 was the coldest on record for Iowa,[2] Minnesota,[3] North Dakota,[4] and South Dakota.[5] This winter was much colder than the immediately preceding winters. 1930 through 1934 had very mild winters in the U.S. 1930/31 was warm in the western north central states; 1931/32 in the mid- and south-Atlantic states, the eastern north central states, and the eastern south central states; 1932/33 in New England; and, 1933/34 in the mountain and Pacific states.[6] In the northern plains, the Februaries of 1925, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1931, and 1935 are among the 25 warmest Februaries between 1895 and 2017, although 1929 had the third-coldest February of all-time.[7]

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The sea froze partially as far south as Chesapeake Bay.[citation needed] From January 25 to 28, the east had its coldest January temperatures in eighteen years, with Washington, D. C. averaging 14 °F (−10.0 °C)[18] High winds in some locations caused wind chills below −85 °F (−65.0 °C). In Ohio and the Centralia district of Illinois,[19] the cold destroyed the peach crop, whilst defective heaters caused numerous dangerous fires in Minnesota.[18]

The Cold wave of January 1977 produced the only known trace of snow in the greater Miami area of Florida ever reported, although the city itself did not report any snow (a trace of snow was documented in Lake Worth). It occurred following the passage of a strong cold front, in combination with a high-pressure area situated over the Mississippi River Valley. As a result, cold air moved far to the south across Florida, causing both snow flurries and record low temperatures. Most notably, the weather system brought snow flurries (seen in the air, but not on the ground) as far south as Homestead on January 19. No snow had ever been reported in southeastern Florida before or since.

January 1977 is the coldest month on record in the state of Ohio, with an average temperature of 11.9 degrees. Snowfall was above average throughout the month and the all-time record low of −25 °F (−32 °C) was set in Cincinnati. The Ohio River froze solid for the first time since 1918, halting commercial shipping for weeks. Some parts of northern Ohio stayed below freezing for the entire month [10]. Temperatures did not rise above freezing the entire month in a swath from eastern Iowa to western Pennsylvania northward."

And all this wasted bullcrap says what about GLOBAL Warming?
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[Crick]

Hardly.

Polar vortex weakening - the meandering of the jet stream that is driving Arctic air into the us midwest - is due to the pattern of global warming that drives Arctic temperatures up faster than those on the equator. Telling us it must be false because you don't like the OP is logical bullshit.

Crick and his bull shit!

The thinning atmosphere, low solar wind pressures on our atmosphere, and reduced solar output are the primary cause. It is Cyclical and seen over and over during cooling cycles throught earths history. Your argument is fallacy!

Having seen just how poor your grasp of basic physics and your own reality actually was, I thought it'd be best if we simply stopped interacting. You seem to have other ideas. I will let "thinning atmosphere, low solar wind pressure... and reduced solar output" as the cause of... you don't say what, stand all on its own. No comment is needed.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Hardly.

Polar vortex weakening - the meandering of the jet stream that is driving Arctic air into the us midwest - is due to the pattern of global warming that drives Arctic temperatures up faster than those on the equator. Telling us it must be false because you don't like the OP is logical bullshit.

Crick and his bull shit!

The thinning atmosphere, low solar wind pressures on our atmosphere, and reduced solar output are the primary cause. It is Cyclical and seen over and over during cooling cycles throught earths history. Your argument is fallacy!

Having seen just how poor your grasp of basic physics and your own reality actually was, I thought it'd be best if we simply stopped interacting. You seem to have other ideas. I will let "thinning atmosphere, low solar wind pressure... and reduced solar output" as the cause of... you don't say what, stand all on its own. No comment is needed.

So your pontificating on something you do not understand nor have any working knowledge of.. Parrot--- Polly want a cracker?

 

[Crick]

Three simple questions without any ad hominem

1) Do you dispute that the cold air coming down into the Midwest and curving east is a meander or Rossby Wave in the polar vortex?

2) Do you dispute that meanders occur in the polar vortex most often when it is weakest and least often when it is strong?

3) Do you dispute that the polar vortex is strongest in the summer and weakest in the winter?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Three simple questions without any ad hominem

1) Do you dispute that the cold air coming down into the Midwest and curving east is a meander or Rossby Wave in the polar vortex?

The wave is not a 'Rossby' wave. it is a pressure imbalance wave caused by rapid cooling. Temperature differential. That coupled with the thinning of the polar atmopshere results in destabilization of the flows.

2) Do you dispute that meanders occur in the polar vortex most often when it is weakest and least often when it is strong?

Meandering is done during a weakening of the equatorial flow and increased power of the polar flow. Indicative of an active cooling phase

3) Do you dispute that the polar vortex is strongest in the summer and weakest in the winter?

You obviously have no concept of Temperature and Pressure differential at altitude. You are 180 degrees out of reality. The polar lows are always stronger in winter due to maximum cooling at altitude vs the surface. No solar warming. Our recent polar low shows just how strong they are dropping to below 910mb, rivaling pressures of major hurricanes.

 

[Crick]

Watch this Billy. I'm going to admit to having made a mistake. The polar vortex is strongest in winter and weakest in summer. I was wrong.

 

[westwall]

How about a little history to thump on the 'revisionist history' of the OP..

"February 1936 was the coldest February on record in the contiguous U.S., narrowly eclipsing February 1899.[1] It also was the coldest month ever in Nebraska, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

The meteorological winter (December through February) of 1935/36 was the coldest on record for Iowa,[2] Minnesota,[3] North Dakota,[4] and South Dakota.[5] This winter was much colder than the immediately preceding winters. 1930 through 1934 had very mild winters in the U.S. 1930/31 was warm in the western north central states; 1931/32 in the mid- and south-Atlantic states, the eastern north central states, and the eastern south central states; 1932/33 in New England; and, 1933/34 in the mountain and Pacific states.[6] In the northern plains, the Februaries of 1925, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1931, and 1935 are among the 25 warmest Februaries between 1895 and 2017, although 1929 had the third-coldest February of all-time.[7]

…

The sea froze partially as far south as Chesapeake Bay.[citation needed] From January 25 to 28, the east had its coldest January temperatures in eighteen years, with Washington, D. C. averaging 14 °F (−10.0 °C)[18] High winds in some locations caused wind chills below −85 °F (−65.0 °C). In Ohio and the Centralia district of Illinois,[19] the cold destroyed the peach crop, whilst defective heaters caused numerous dangerous fires in Minnesota.[18]

The Cold wave of January 1977 produced the only known trace of snow in the greater Miami area of Florida ever reported, although the city itself did not report any snow (a trace of snow was documented in Lake Worth). It occurred following the passage of a strong cold front, in combination with a high-pressure area situated over the Mississippi River Valley. As a result, cold air moved far to the south across Florida, causing both snow flurries and record low temperatures. Most notably, the weather system brought snow flurries (seen in the air, but not on the ground) as far south as Homestead on January 19. No snow had ever been reported in southeastern Florida before or since.

January 1977 is the coldest month on record in the state of Ohio, with an average temperature of 11.9 degrees. Snowfall was above average throughout the month and the all-time record low of −25 °F (−32 °C) was set in Cincinnati. The Ohio River froze solid for the first time since 1918, halting commercial shipping for weeks. Some parts of northern Ohio stayed below freezing for the entire month [10]. Temperatures did not rise above freezing the entire month in a swath from eastern Iowa to western Pennsylvania northward."

And all this wasted bullcrap says what about GLOBAL Warming?
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It shows that the theory of global warming is just that, bullcrap.

 

[westwall]

Coldest temps in 20 years! And possibly since the birth of our planet!
Omg omg omg lets tax people to stop natural earth evolution!
You guys sound so dumb.

There was a cold snap that hit the Great Plains back in the 1870's that froze bison while they were walking. This ain't nothing like that.

 

[Billy_Bob]

How about a little history to thump on the 'revisionist history' of the OP..

"February 1936 was the coldest February on record in the contiguous U.S., narrowly eclipsing February 1899.[1] It also was the coldest month ever in Nebraska, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

The meteorological winter (December through February) of 1935/36 was the coldest on record for Iowa,[2] Minnesota,[3] North Dakota,[4] and South Dakota.[5] This winter was much colder than the immediately preceding winters. 1930 through 1934 had very mild winters in the U.S. 1930/31 was warm in the western north central states; 1931/32 in the mid- and south-Atlantic states, the eastern north central states, and the eastern south central states; 1932/33 in New England; and, 1933/34 in the mountain and Pacific states.[6] In the northern plains, the Februaries of 1925, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1931, and 1935 are among the 25 warmest Februaries between 1895 and 2017, although 1929 had the third-coldest February of all-time.[7]

…

The sea froze partially as far south as Chesapeake Bay.[citation needed] From January 25 to 28, the east had its coldest January temperatures in eighteen years, with Washington, D. C. averaging 14 °F (−10.0 °C)[18] High winds in some locations caused wind chills below −85 °F (−65.0 °C). In Ohio and the Centralia district of Illinois,[19] the cold destroyed the peach crop, whilst defective heaters caused numerous dangerous fires in Minnesota.[18]

The Cold wave of January 1977 produced the only known trace of snow in the greater Miami area of Florida ever reported, although the city itself did not report any snow (a trace of snow was documented in Lake Worth). It occurred following the passage of a strong cold front, in combination with a high-pressure area situated over the Mississippi River Valley. As a result, cold air moved far to the south across Florida, causing both snow flurries and record low temperatures. Most notably, the weather system brought snow flurries (seen in the air, but not on the ground) as far south as Homestead on January 19. No snow had ever been reported in southeastern Florida before or since.

January 1977 is the coldest month on record in the state of Ohio, with an average temperature of 11.9 degrees. Snowfall was above average throughout the month and the all-time record low of −25 °F (−32 °C) was set in Cincinnati. The Ohio River froze solid for the first time since 1918, halting commercial shipping for weeks. Some parts of northern Ohio stayed below freezing for the entire month [10]. Temperatures did not rise above freezing the entire month in a swath from eastern Iowa to western Pennsylvania northward."

And all this wasted bullcrap says what about GLOBAL Warming?
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It shows quite simply that everything you say is being caused by man has happened before proving your meme total Bull SHIT!

 

[Crick]

No, "it" has not happened since the Chicxulub Impact. You choose to address an issue that no one has brought up. That is called using a straw dog. It is a logical fallacy. Tch tch.

 

[skookerasbil]

A (another) WEATHER event has brought alot of the Denialist Clowns out but..


Blame a Sudden Heat Spike for the Arctic Temperatures in the Midwest
After a section of stratosphere experienced a rapid rise in temperature, part of the polar vortex broke off and pockets of arctic air moved south
By Brianna Abbott
Jan. 30, 2019 - Wall Street Journal
Blame a Sudden Heat Spike for the Arctic Temperatures in the Midwest

[.....]
"....Around Jan. 2, part of the stratosphere experienced a rapid rise in temperature of 50 degrees Fahrenheit in just a few days, NOAA says. The process—called a sudden stratospheric warming—split the unstable polar vortex.

When part of the polar vortex broke off, pockets of arctic air moved south, which is what is causing the current cold snap, meteorologists say.

Some climate scientists believe that warming in the Arctic due to climate change may be destabilizing the polar vortex, according to a 2017 study in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, creating more extreme weather events. Cold temperature extremes, however, have become less severe and less frequent overall in recent decades, while extreme heat events are now more severe and more frequent."..."
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Meh

The extreme cold temperatures still happened s0n. Doy

 

[Crick]

It shows quite simply that everything you say is being caused by man has happened before proving your meme total Bull SHIT!

Forest fires happened in the pre-hominid past, long before humans could have caused them. Does that mean that humans cannot have caused them now? It does by YOUR logic.

 

[Old Rocks]

Coldest temps in 20 years! And possibly since the birth of our planet!
Omg omg omg lets tax people to stop natural earth evolution!
You guys sound so dumb.

There was a cold snap that hit the Great Plains back in the 1870's that froze bison while they were walking. This ain't nothing like that.

Silly ass, that was not the 1870's, that was 1884 and 1887. And it froze cattle, not bison. About 90% of the cattle in the northern plains died from that winter. Both extreme winters may have been made more extreme by the eruption in 1883 of Krakatoa.

The 1887 Blizzard That Changed the American Frontier Forever | Smart News | Smithsonian

 

[jc456]

It shows quite simply that everything you say is being caused by man has happened before proving your meme total Bull SHIT!

Forest fires happened in the pre-hominid past, long before humans could have caused them. Does that mean that humans cannot have caused them now? It does by YOUR logic.

wow dude, you are a crazy fk. there is absolutely zero logic in your post. none, why do you step off your island like that and drown? I don't get it. are you that upset with your lack of climate knowledge that you just go all weirdo?

the right question is whether a forest fire can occur without man's help?

 

[westwall]

Coldest temps in 20 years! And possibly since the birth of our planet!
Omg omg omg lets tax people to stop natural earth evolution!
You guys sound so dumb.

There was a cold snap that hit the Great Plains back in the 1870's that froze bison while they were walking. This ain't nothing like that.

Silly ass, that was not the 1870's, that was 1884 and 1887. And it froze cattle, not bison. About 90% of the cattle in the northern plains died from that winter. Both extreme winters may have been made more extreme by the eruption in 1883 of Krakatoa.

The 1887 Blizzard That Changed the American Frontier Forever | Smart News | Smithsonian

Poor oaf, try looking up the blizzard of Jan 7-10 of 1873.

Dumb ass.

 

[Crick]

Link, Mr Westwall?

 

[jc456]

Link, Mr Westwall?

Why don’t you just post proof of your nonsense