Blacks Impact on Middle America - Scientific Results

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Originally posted by mattskramer
Yeah...roughness. It goes along with name-calling and intellectual inconsistency and serves as a compensation for those who lack skills in sound logic as my previous post illustrates.

Hey, OCA. If other people argue that it (homosexual marriage) should be legalized, why not ignore them since, according to you, they will simply "poke sticks at the old turd on the ground"?

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Ya know something matts? I never noticed this before, but looking at your picture, it looks like you're wearing a really bad hair piece. Is that a rug you're wearing matts? You going bald?

 

[menewa]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
Statistics don't lie. There is a big crime problem in the black community and it's not whitey's fault.

It is "whitey's fault", ultimately. True, you cannot blame most contemporary Anglo-Americans for troubles in the black community. But you can blame Anglo ancestors and the Spanish and other Euros for Africans being displaced from their homeland and placing them in this Wilderness. You can also blame them for erasing their history and their language and their culture and forcing them into a brutal life of servitude.
"the sins of the father will visit the child"

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by menewa
It is "whitey's fault", ultimately. True, you cannot blame most contemporary Anglo-Americans for troubles in the black community. But you can blame Anglo ancestors and the Spanish and other Euros for Africans being displaced from their homeland and placing them in this Wilderness. You can also blame them for erasing their history and their language and their culture and forcing them into a brutal life of servitude.
"the sins of the father will visit the child"

Well YOU can, but it isn't going to get anyone further, just holds them back.

Same way that those paralyzed by discrimination will not get as far as they could.

All are losers.

 

[menewa]

Originally posted by Kathianne
Well YOU can, but it isn't going to get anyone further, just holds them back.

Same way that those paralyzed by discrimination will not get as far as they could.

All are losers.

How can one go forward without realistically appraising the past and learning how we got to be where we are today?

Running from history leaves "all as losers", or at least the proletariats as losers.

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by menewa
How can one go forward without realistically appraising the past and learning how we got to be where we are today?

Running from history leaves "all as losers", or at least the proletariats as losers.

Well you are going back looking for an already known cause. I'm not debating that you are correct in many aspects of what you are saying.

Problem is, you are not arguing that it can be redone, just offered up for an excuse for so many to fail.

Losers go this route.

 

[menewa]

Originally posted by Kathianne
Well you are going back looking for an already known cause. I'm not debating that you are correct in many aspects of what you are saying.

Problem is, you are not arguing that it can be redone, just offered up for an excuse for so many to fail.

Losers go this route.

You are right that my post posed no solutions. But I was only intending to refute Rightwing Avenger's claim that it ain't "whiteys fault."

I believe we can move on and build more equality in this country. Our laws are pretty pliable by-and-by and have allowed for many instances of our government improving upon the rights granted its citizens by the Creator. But I also think everyone needs to know the magnitudes of influence our history plays upon the present.

I think we are in agreement and you're just trying to drop me hints on being more tactful and coy in my posts. Seems strange... but you are the teacher.

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
I know many of you want to ignore this so you don't have to face the onslaught of your lib friends, but you need to get over it. Anecdotal evidence about some blacks that aren't this way is irrelevant. Statistics don't lie. Like I said. Lying to yourselves doesn't help matters.

RWA do you believe that as a whole Blacks are less intelligent, inferior and genetically prone to be more violent than whites?

Whether yes or no, what is your solution to violence in the Black community?

 

[americanexpo]

first of all

i would challenge any jackass that believes a race war is justified, needed or even about to happen to come join the other 99.9 percent of the country that is in the real world.

i attended a black university, NC A&T. my ethnic heritage comes from all over Europe. I never had a single racial incident where a black guy robbed me, mistreated me, etc etc. nothing at all. i have nothing but great memories from that time period. got some good schooling, met people from all over America, and all kinds of blacks. poor whites, poor blacks. middle class blacks, middle class whites. rich blacks, rich whites. they do have a lot of negative history in this country, and sadly, reprucussions and consequences do exist. but mostly, when it comes down to it, the 5% white student population was interested in the same basic interests the black majority was: booze, partying, sex, sleep and passing.

i worked at an AIDS hospice for three weeks in Durban, South Africa, a place with a huge crime rate. i was robbed there, lost my laptop. two days later, the black guy from St. Joseph's Univ. who arrived for the same reason I did, a week after me, he got robbed. and this in a place where apartheid existed up until 15 years ago. i held the hands of dying AIDS victims, who thought nothing of my skin color, just of the fact that I was there for them. black folk who lived under apartheid, no grudges against me, a white guy.

i lived in Hialeah, the super-Latin centric city in Miami, FL. Home of Little Havana, the only white boy for blocks, and I didn't speak a lick of good Spanish. I was in love with a Cuban girl across the city, whose family accepted me and didn't judge my skin color or ethnic heritage. I worked side by side for several NGO's in some of the poorest neighborhoods in America in places like Carol City and Overtown, horrific ghettos and barrios in Miami. Was I often judged by my skin color there? Yes, mostly because the only white guys that show up there are crackheads or cops who come looking to arrest somebody and are too undermanned and overtasked to get to know the neighborhood residents.

There is not a large community in America that doesn't have this problem of undermanned, overworked cops. No wonder minorities sometimes have problems with them, the cops rarely have time to do something positive or constructive in the community. They only are able to arrest bad guys, or guys they think are guilty.

I'm in the Navy now, and I've shared sweat, blood and tears with shipmates and Marines of all shades and ethnic backgrounds, mostly from poor families in poor neighborhoods. Never a racial problem. We're getting our asses kicked by a massive fire in engineering, nobody gives a shit what color you are, only if you're ready to go fight the damn thing.

i was in NY after 9/11. I didn't see any racial tension, and I was in Flatbush, Flushing, Queensbridge, damn near all over the Bronx and Staten Island, and down by Ground Zero. I saw people united in grief and determination, and I saw the workers down there all the same color: gray.

In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was getting support from poor whites in Alabama, Black Panthers in Oakland, middle class folks in Indiana, Latinos in California and Arizona, Jews in NYC and Native Americans in the Dakotas. You know how he did it? He stood up for things like right and wrong, justice and peace, and above all else: giving people a hand up, not a hand out. Too many politicians have either stuck their hand out or have done nothing. Affirmative action is wrong. So is handing folk money just cause they're broke or unemployed. How about giving folks training, schooling and skills they can use to make money and provide for their families? The reason there's so much crime and whatnot among minorities in these communities is cause they're poor and often hopeless. Hopeless people do stupid stuff.

The miiltary gives folks hope, and takes away their excuses. It gives them training, skills and money. They're not hopeless anymore. They go home and make something of themselves, and become a credit to their ethnic heritage and the people that raised them.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by OCA
RWA do you believe that as a whole Blacks are less intelligent, inferior and genetically prone to be more violent than whites?

Whether yes or no, what is your solution to violence in the Black community?

It doesn't matter. The fact is that blacks are acting like animals, whether it's due to some innate intelligence level or not, it just doesn't matter. I just know obscuring the truth of the crime statistics, like you evidently prefer, serves noone.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by americanexpo


first of all

i would challenge any jackass that believes a race war is justified, needed or even about to happen to come join the other 99.9 percent of the country that is in the real world.

i attended a black university, NC A&T. my ethnic heritage comes from all over Europe. I never had a single racial incident where a black guy robbed me, mistreated me, etc etc. nothing at all. i have nothing but great memories from that time period. got some good schooling, met people from all over America, and all kinds of blacks. poor whites, poor blacks. middle class blacks, middle class whites. rich blacks, rich whites. they do have a lot of negative history in this country, and sadly, reprucussions and consequences do exist. but mostly, when it comes down to it, the 5% white student population was interested in the same basic interests the black majority was: booze, partying, sex, sleep and passing.

i worked at an AIDS hospice for three weeks in Durban, South Africa, a place with a huge crime rate. i was robbed there, lost my laptop. two days later, the black guy from St. Joseph's Univ. who arrived for the same reason I did, a week after me, he got robbed. and this in a place where apartheid existed up until 15 years ago. i held the hands of dying AIDS victims, who thought nothing of my skin color, just of the fact that I was there for them. black folk who lived under apartheid, no grudges against me, a white guy.

i lived in Hialeah, the super-Latin centric city in Miami, FL. Home of Little Havana, the only white boy for blocks, and I didn't speak a lick of good Spanish. I was in love with a Cuban girl across the city, whose family accepted me and didn't judge my skin color or ethnic heritage. I worked side by side for several NGO's in some of the poorest neighborhoods in America in places like Carol City and Overtown, horrific ghettos and barrios in Miami. Was I often judged by my skin color there? Yes, mostly because the only white guys that show up there are crackheads or cops who come looking to arrest somebody and are too undermanned and overtasked to get to know the neighborhood residents.

There is not a large community in America that doesn't have this problem of undermanned, overworked cops. No wonder minorities sometimes have problems with them, the cops rarely have time to do something positive or constructive in the community. They only are able to arrest bad guys, or guys they think are guilty.

I'm in the Navy now, and I've shared sweat, blood and tears with shipmates and Marines of all shades and ethnic backgrounds, mostly from poor families in poor neighborhoods. Never a racial problem. We're getting our asses kicked by a massive fire in engineering, nobody gives a shit what color you are, only if you're ready to go fight the damn thing.

i was in NY after 9/11. I didn't see any racial tension, and I was in Flatbush, Flushing, Queensbridge, damn near all over the Bronx and Staten Island, and down by Ground Zero. I saw people united in grief and determination, and I saw the workers down there all the same color: gray.

In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was getting support from poor whites in Alabama, Black Panthers in Oakland, middle class folks in Indiana, Latinos in California and Arizona, Jews in NYC and Native Americans in the Dakotas. You know how he did it? He stood up for things like right and wrong, justice and peace, and above all else: giving people a hand up, not a hand out. Too many politicians have either stuck their hand out or have done nothing. Affirmative action is wrong. So is handing folk money just cause they're broke or unemployed. How about giving folks training, schooling and skills they can use to make money and provide for their families? The reason there's so much crime and whatnot among minorities in these communities is cause they're poor and often hopeless. Hopeless people do stupid stuff.

The miiltary gives folks hope, and takes away their excuses. It gives them training, skills and money. They're not hopeless anymore. They go home and make something of themselves, and become a credit to their ethnic heritage and the people that raised them.

Purely anecdotal. Statistics don't lie. You are not a large enough sample to prove jack skippy.

 

[americanexpo]

There are those who unfairly say all right wingers or conservatives are racists and jag-offs. I'm glad you're too small an example to prove that myth right.

Statistics don't lie. Most people in America (minorities included) have no racial problems. Most people see no race war. Most people don't see blacks as animals. Go join the rest of the pathetic loser white guy club and start a White Man's Taliban or something, and go espouse your views in a part of America, preferably a toxic waste site or landfill.

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
It doesn't matter. The fact is that blacks are acting like animals, whether it's due to some innate intelligence level or not, it just doesn't matter. I just know obscuring the truth of the crime statistics, like you evidently prefer, serves noone.

RWA you are a racist, and not even man enough of one to admit it. You are really becoming irrelevant to this board. You say you believe in individuality but don't proclaim it when given the chance, just some stupid fucking lame ass retarded fucking answer like "it doesn't matter". Go jackoff with rest of your minority hating pals who just like to piss and moan but are too unintelligent to offer up a solution to which beer to buy much less race relations.

What a fucking piece of shit loser.

Expo RWA isn't a conservative he's a racialist.

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
Purely anecdotal. Statistics don't lie. You are not a large enough sample to prove jack skippy.

RWA why did you fall to the dark side? Why do you hate Blacks so much?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by OCA
RWA why did you fall to the dark side? Why do you hate Blacks so much?

I haven't. I don't hate blacks. Don't put words in my mouth. You're the one who advocates open racial discrimination against whites. THat's hateful, you hypocritical f#ckstick.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by americanexpo
There are those who unfairly say all right wingers or conservatives are racists and jag-offs. I'm glad you're too small an example to prove that myth right.

Statistics don't lie. Most people in America (minorities included) have no racial problems. Most people see no race war. Most people don't see blacks as animals. Go join the rest of the pathetic loser white guy club and start a White Man's Taliban or something, and go espouse your views in a part of America, preferably a toxic waste site or landfill.

Most people see no race war because of libs like you who wish we could all just lie about the crime statistics because it's not politically correct. People don't want to see. Whites are being victimized at an alarming rate by blacks, in a very disproportionate fashion. Poverty does not justify violence. ANd black poverty is not the fault of white america. Take your lies elsewhere.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by OCA
RWA you are a racist, and not even man enough of one to admit it. You are really becoming irrelevant to this board. You say you believe in individuality but don't proclaim it when given the chance, just some stupid fucking lame ass retarded fucking answer like "it doesn't matter". Go jackoff with rest of your minority hating pals who just like to piss and moan but are too unintelligent to offer up a solution to which beer to buy much less race relations.

What a fucking piece of shit loser.

Expo RWA isn't a conservative he's a racialist.

You're an imbecile. a racially discriminatory loser. You're such a pathetic clown. You accuse everyone else of racism, but YOU are the one who condones racial discrimination. You're a joke.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by americanexpo


first of all

i would challenge any jackass that believes a race war is justified, needed or even about to happen to come join the other 99.9 percent of the country that is in the real world.

i attended a black university, NC A&T. my ethnic heritage comes from all over Europe. I never had a single racial incident where a black guy robbed me, mistreated me, etc etc. nothing at all. i have nothing but great memories from that time period. got some good schooling, met people from all over America, and all kinds of blacks. poor whites, poor blacks. middle class blacks, middle class whites. rich blacks, rich whites. they do have a lot of negative history in this country, and sadly, reprucussions and consequences do exist. but mostly, when it comes down to it, the 5% white student population was interested in the same basic interests the black majority was: booze, partying, sex, sleep and passing.

i worked at an AIDS hospice for three weeks in Durban, South Africa, a place with a huge crime rate. i was robbed there, lost my laptop. two days later, the black guy from St. Joseph's Univ. who arrived for the same reason I did, a week after me, he got robbed. and this in a place where apartheid existed up until 15 years ago. i held the hands of dying AIDS victims, who thought nothing of my skin color, just of the fact that I was there for them. black folk who lived under apartheid, no grudges against me, a white guy.

i lived in Hialeah, the super-Latin centric city in Miami, FL. Home of Little Havana, the only white boy for blocks, and I didn't speak a lick of good Spanish. I was in love with a Cuban girl across the city, whose family accepted me and didn't judge my skin color or ethnic heritage. I worked side by side for several NGO's in some of the poorest neighborhoods in America in places like Carol City and Overtown, horrific ghettos and barrios in Miami. Was I often judged by my skin color there? Yes, mostly because the only white guys that show up there are crackheads or cops who come looking to arrest somebody and are too undermanned and overtasked to get to know the neighborhood residents.

There is not a large community in America that doesn't have this problem of undermanned, overworked cops. No wonder minorities sometimes have problems with them, the cops rarely have time to do something positive or constructive in the community. They only are able to arrest bad guys, or guys they think are guilty.

I'm in the Navy now, and I've shared sweat, blood and tears with shipmates and Marines of all shades and ethnic backgrounds, mostly from poor families in poor neighborhoods. Never a racial problem. We're getting our asses kicked by a massive fire in engineering, nobody gives a shit what color you are, only if you're ready to go fight the damn thing.

i was in NY after 9/11. I didn't see any racial tension, and I was in Flatbush, Flushing, Queensbridge, damn near all over the Bronx and Staten Island, and down by Ground Zero. I saw people united in grief and determination, and I saw the workers down there all the same color: gray.

In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was getting support from poor whites in Alabama, Black Panthers in Oakland, middle class folks in Indiana, Latinos in California and Arizona, Jews in NYC and Native Americans in the Dakotas. You know how he did it? He stood up for things like right and wrong, justice and peace, and above all else: giving people a hand up, not a hand out. Too many politicians have either stuck their hand out or have done nothing. Affirmative action is wrong. So is handing folk money just cause they're broke or unemployed. How about giving folks training, schooling and skills they can use to make money and provide for their families? The reason there's so much crime and whatnot among minorities in these communities is cause they're poor and often hopeless. Hopeless people do stupid stuff.

The miiltary gives folks hope, and takes away their excuses. It gives them training, skills and money. They're not hopeless anymore. They go home and make something of themselves, and become a credit to their ethnic heritage and the people that raised them.

It's already on. It is legal to racially discriminat against whites due to their skin color. That's sick. THAT'S racism. Are you really so dense?

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by americanexpo


first of all

i would challenge any jackass that believes a race war is justified, needed or even about to happen to come join the other 99.9 percent of the country that is in the real world.

Maybe you'd like to come down to dallas and explain to the 'new black panthers' that believing in a justified race war makes one a jackass.

 

[OCA]

So what are your solutions RWA? Nobody is saying that there isn't a disproprtionate amount of crime in the Black community that is agreed on. So what are you oh Mr."COLORBLIND" RWA going to do about it? Oh wait here comes RWA's intelligent answer "it doesn't matter that I have no answer and I talk out of my ass most days" or "AA, AA, AA, AA white discrimination". You should be an organ grinder.

Face it you are a darky hating racist loser without hair 1 on your balls to admit it. Fucking disgrace to my party you are.

Prozac, seek it beacause you need it.

 

[Annie]

Let's all come up with nice ways of name calling, shall we? Read the rules, you should not be personally attacking other posters. Thank you, we return you now to the message boards....