Etymology gaslight
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What is the distinction between natural born citizens or a citizen of the United States.
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That depends how they got here.Let me put a STOP to this debate. If 50 million Russians invaded and popped out 100 million Russian babies would we give them citizenship and let their parents stay and pop out another 100 million Russian babies and take over our country?
HELL NO!
I got to ask where do you get this stuff from ?That depends how they got here.
If they were an invading army, then we would not give them citizenship.
Same as if they had a diplomatic mission with a staff of 50 million.
Everyone under that diplomatic umbrella isn't subject to our jurisdiction either.
People that cross our border illegally are more like your diplomats, Indians and invaders - they expressly reject sovereignty of the the US over them - they do not subject themselves to the jurisdiction of the US
Actually the people who cross the border illegally are doing so in order to come under our jurisdiction.
That's why ICE is picking them up at the place of employment, where they pay income, social security and medicare taxes, or ICE picks them up at the court house of other place holding a hearing on their status.
Thats the typical lib open borders argumentActually the people who cross the border illegally are doing so in order to come under our jurisdiction.
That's why ICE is picking them up at the place of employment, where they pay income, social security and medicare taxes, or ICE picks them up at the court house of other place holding a hearing on their status.
Read many on both sides of the issue. Further discussion is an excersise in futility as already shown here. It comes down to what the justices say about the issue.Correct.
1,000% Ratty. KudosActually the people who cross the border illegally are doing so in order to come under our jurisdiction.
That's why ICE is picking them up at the place of employment, where they pay income, social security and medicare taxes, or ICE picks them up at the court house of other place holding a hearing on their status.
Thats the typical lib open borders argument
And who knows?
Roberts may go along with it
Depending on what his Ouija board tells him
Even the criminal aliens, who come here with the intent of avoiding our jurisdiction, are none the less still subject to our jurisdiction.1,000% Ratty. Kudos
To me makes it even more interesting.Minor V Happersett was DICTA
Explain that last post.To me makes it even more interesting.
No Obama case allowed to discovery.
Everyone is afforded due process even if they sneak in.Thats the typical lib open borders argument
And who knows?
Roberts may go along with it
Depending on what his Ouija board tells him
Second time, 1,000% Ratty KudosEven the criminal aliens, who come here with the intent of avoiding our jurisdiction, are none the less still subject to our jurisdiction.
Actually without standing the supreme court has time and time again indicated it's a violation of article 3 of the constitution for them to render further judgement on the case.To me makes it even more interesting.
No Obama case allowed to discovery, even standing.
Scotus can take the case.
just haven't
Explain that last post.
That's what Article 5 is for.Everyone is afforded due process even if they sneak in.
That should probably be changed.
no one follows the constitution, it is party driven and mostly by demofks.I have no love for the courts as they exist today
In the best of times to a relief valves that prevent opposing faction from killing each other
But the respect that the courts depend on is eroding fast