Birthright Citizenship/ Abortion/ Rape Exception (POLL)

[Chuz Life]

I know there are already a couple of other threads on the Birthright Citizenship issue, already. However, this one is different. I am curious about how many think (agree) it would be wrong to force a woman to carry the child of her rapist. . . but think it's just fine to force the U.S, to afford citizenship status (and all the perks that come with it) to a child that is FORCED on the nation in a criminal act.

*This poll presumes that abortion has been banned or is in the process of being banned, and the "exceptions" of that ban are being considered.

 

[whitehall]

What does "rape exception" mean?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I know there are already a couple of other threads on the Birthright Citizenship issue, already. However, this one is different. I am curious about how many think (agree) it would be wrong to force a woman to carry the child of her rapist. . . but think it's just fine to force the U.S, to afford citizenship status (and all the perks that come with it) to a child that is FORCED on the nation in a criminal act.

*This poll presumes that abortion has been banned or is in the process of being banned, and the "exceptions" of that ban are being considered.

It was explained to me one time that killing the baby is basically punishing the innocent of the crimes of the father.

 

[Muhammed]

It's rare to convict a rapist within 9 months.

It would just encourage more false rape reports.

 

[MayorQuimby]

It was explained to me one time that killing the baby is basically punishing the innocent of the crimes of the father.

I can see why people feel that way, but if I ask me, honestly I think that for the good of everybody involved, we should make women abort the child of a rapist.

Genes are very powerful, and the child of a rapist is likely (although it's not a guarantee) to grow up to be a rapist, too. Best to nip it in the womb.

 

[Chuz Life]

What does "rape exception" mean?

I tried to explain that in the OP.

This poll presumes that abortion has been banned and making exceptions (for rape, life of the mother etc.) are being considered for the ban.

 

[Chuz Life]

It was explained to me one time that killing the baby is basically punishing the innocent of the crimes of the father.

I can't deny that would be a deciding factor for me (to oppose the exception) if I thought that was a fair characterization of what the justifications are for the (in my view) conditional exceptions that I (for now) can support.

 

[Chuz Life]

It's rare to convict a rapist within 9 months.

It would just encourage more false rape reports.

Both statements are probably true.

However, is that your starting point or end of conversation?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I know there are already a couple of other threads on the Birthright Citizenship issue, already. However, this one is different. I am curious about how many think (agree) it would be wrong to force a woman to carry the child of her rapist. . . but think it's just fine to force the U.S, to afford citizenship status (and all the perks that come with it) to a child that is FORCED on the nation in a criminal act.

*This poll presumes that abortion has been banned or is in the process of being banned, and the "exceptions" of that ban are being considered.

Oh, STFU and get down off your soapbox. This is a stupid topic! It has nothing to do with birthright citizenship. You just want to ***** about abortion again!

Laws regarding abortion are a state issue now. If you disagree, deal with your state.

 

[Muhammed]

Both statements are probably true.

However, is that your starting point or end of conversation?

I'm just stating some relevant facts.

This "rape exception" you brought up is a bit more complicated than it's made out to be.

In practice, how do you prove it was rape?

 

[Muhammed]

I can see why people feel that way, but if I ask me, honestly I think that for the good of everybody involved, we should make women abort the child of a rapist.

Genes are very powerful, and the child of a rapist is likely (although it's not a guarantee) to grow up to be a rapist, too. Best to nip it in the womb.

That's called eugenics.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm just stating some relevant facts.

I agree.

Very relevant

This "rape exception" you brought up is a bit more complicated than it's made out to be.

100%

In practice, how do you prove it was rape?

It would have to be investigated and treated like any other rape.

Additionally, if the woman/ victim is pregnant, the dna of the child could determine of the accused is the contributor.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Birthright citizenship was for American blacks not Jose Ole who jumped a fence ,collected bennies, and forced down wages of the working classes

 

[MayorQuimby]

That's called eugenics.

Which is a wonderful thing.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I can see why people feel that way, but if I ask me, honestly I think that for the good of everybody involved, we should make women abort the child of a rapist.

Genes are very powerful, and the child of a rapist is likely (although it's not a guarantee) to grow up to be a rapist, too. Best to nip it in the womb.

Yet we keep the rapist alive and murder the baby that never got a chance to prove itself. Execute the rapist and the money that would of been spent keeping the shithead alive, could help nurture the baby to a long and fruitful life.