Bin Laden Raid: One Big Lie?

[georgephillip]

That's what Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh is claiming in advance of his upcoming book on US national security:

"The story of how U.S. Navy Seals killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid on an compound in Pakistan is 'one big lie,' veteran journalist Seymour Hersh claimed.

“'Not one word of it is true,' the Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer told the Guardian in an interview. Hersh is currently working on a book about national security, which reportedly includes a chapter on the bin Laden raid. Hersh hinted at revelations to come in his book.

Seymour Hersh Says Story of Osama bin Laden Raid is ?One Big Lie? | TIME.com

Hypothetically, if Obama really did lie about this particular extra-judicial assassination, should he face impeachment?

 

[novasteve]

No. It's not a crime but violating the war powers act in Libya was a crime

 

[R.C. Christian]

That's what Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh is claiming in advance of his upcoming book on US national security:

"The story of how U.S. Navy Seals killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid on an compound in Pakistan is 'one big lie,' veteran journalist Seymour Hersh claimed.

“'Not one word of it is true,' the Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer told the Guardian in an interview. Hersh is currently working on a book about national security, which reportedly includes a chapter on the bin Laden raid. Hersh hinted at revelations to come in his book.

Seymour Hersh Says Story of Osama bin Laden Raid is ?One Big Lie? | TIME.com

Hypothetically, if Obama really did lie about this particular extra-judicial assassination, should he face impeachment?

Since we weren't allowed to see the body I'm not convinced.

 

[Steven_R]

We weren't even allowed to see photographs of the body. We got to see Goering's corpse and movies of Tojo's hanging in newsreels, but not Osama.

If Obama had any balls at all, he'd have mounted Osama's body parts on pikes at the Pentagon, ground Zero, and that field in PA until the flesh was gone and then ground up the bones and flushed them down the toilet and put the video on Youtube.

But no, we need to respect the feelings and whatnot of those people.

Shit, the press conference should have been delayed until he could hold the body up on screen Weekend at Bernie's style.

 

[Connery]

Moved to proper forum

 

[whitehall]

That's what Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh is claiming in advance of his upcoming book on US national security:

"The story of how U.S. Navy Seals killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid on an compound in Pakistan is 'one big lie,' veteran journalist Seymour Hersh claimed.

“'Not one word of it is true,' the Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer told the Guardian in an interview. Hersh is currently working on a book about national security, which reportedly includes a chapter on the bin Laden raid. Hersh hinted at revelations to come in his book.

Seymour Hersh Says Story of Osama bin Laden Raid is ?One Big Lie? | TIME.com

Hypothetically, if Obama really did lie about this particular extra-judicial assassination, should he face impeachment?

The bottom line is that if the media fully and totally supports the administration, any crime is possible. The Kennedy brothers should have been kicked out of office the moment the media got wind of the plots to murder the leader of a sovereign island nation 90 miles from the US. The media loved the Kennedy dynasty and supported the criminal administration even when they illegally used the CIA to recruit, train and arm a Cuban invasion force that they abandoned. Radical lefties today joked that the son of an alleged terrorist who happened to be an American citizen and was killed in a drone strike targeted at his father while he was riding in a car "should have picked a better father". That's how depraved the slavish media worship has become. Who issues the execution order on American citizens that bypasses the Constitution? Barry Hussein is guilty of murder.

 

[georgephillip]

That's what Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh is claiming in advance of his upcoming book on US national security:

"The story of how U.S. Navy Seals killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid on an compound in Pakistan is 'one big lie,' veteran journalist Seymour Hersh claimed.

“'Not one word of it is true,' the Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer told the Guardian in an interview. Hersh is currently working on a book about national security, which reportedly includes a chapter on the bin Laden raid. Hersh hinted at revelations to come in his book.

Seymour Hersh Says Story of Osama bin Laden Raid is ?One Big Lie? | TIME.com

Hypothetically, if Obama really did lie about this particular extra-judicial assassination, should he face impeachment?

Since we weren't allowed to see the body I'm not convinced.

You're not alone:

"In a wide-ranging interview published today by the Guardian, Hersh savages the US media for failing to challenge the White House on a whole host of issues, from NSA spying, to drone attacks, to aggression against Syria.

"On the subject of the Navy Seal raid that supposedly resulted in the death of the Al-Qaeda terror leader, Hersh remarked, 'Nothing’s been done about that story, it’s one big lie, not one word of it is true.'

"Hersh added that the Obama administration habitually lies but they continue to do so because the press allows them to get away with it.

“'It’s pathetic, they are more than obsequious, they are afraid to pick on this guy [Obama],' Hersh told the Guardian.

"The raid that supposedly led to Bin Laden’s death has been shrouded in mystery for over two years. Speculation that the Obama administration may have embellished or outright lied about the true account of what happened has persisted, mainly because the White House has refused to publicly release images of Bin Laden’s body.

"Although the White House said the corpse was immediately 'buried at sea' in line with Islamic tradition, it quickly emerged that this was not standard practice.

"Numerous analysts have claimed that Bin Laden had in fact been dead for years and that the raid on his alleged compound in Pakistan was little more than a stunt."

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Would such a "stunt" rise to the level of impeachable offense?

 

[georgephillip]

No. It's not a crime but violating the war powers act in Libya was a crime

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

High Crimes and Misdemeanors could be interpreted to include a lie as large as what Hersh is alleging. Libya should qualify Obama as a war criminal in a similar way as every US President since the end of WWII, at least.

If the Nuremberg Laws were Applied..., by Noam Chomsky (Talk delivered around 1990)

"If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. By violation of the Nuremberg laws I mean the same kind of crimes for which people were hanged in Nuremberg. And Nuremberg means Nuremberg and Tokyo.

"So first of all you've got to think back as to what people were hanged for at Nuremberg and Tokyo. And once you think back, the question doesn't even require a moment's waste of time.

"For example, one general at the Tokyo trials, which were the worst, General Yamashita, was hanged on the grounds that troops in the Philippines, which were technically under his command (though it was so late in the war that he had no contact with them -- it was the very end of the war and there were some troops running around the Philippines who he had no contact with), had carried out atrocities, so he was hanged.

"Well, try that one out and you've already wiped out everybody."

 

[rightwinger]

Ma!

Where's my tin foil hat? Some guy on the Internet is talking about bin Laden

 

[Rozman]

I saw an article recently that someone spotted a man looking just like Bin Laden operating a GYRO
stand near New York University in NYC...

I hear he's a big hit with the college crowd.

 

[thanatos144]

What the fuck is in the water you guys are drinking?

 

[Rockland]

Hersh sounds like a guy with an axe to grind. And a book to plug.

 

[percysunshine]

Normally I just laugh off conspiracy theories and milk them for their entertainment value. But....after watching the Obama administration try to blame Benghazi on a you-tube video after knowing what they knew at the time, anything is possible with these people.

 

[georgephillip]

We weren't even allowed to see photographs of the body. We got to see Goering's corpse and movies of Tojo's hanging in newsreels, but not Osama.

If Obama had any balls at all, he'd have mounted Osama's body parts on pikes at the Pentagon, ground Zero, and that field in PA until the flesh was gone and then ground up the bones and flushed them down the toilet and put the video on Youtube.

But no, we need to respect the feelings and whatnot of those people.

Shit, the press conference should have been delayed until he could hold the body up on screen Weekend at Bernie's style.

Assuming the raid occurred as advertised, we could've put Osama on trial at Ground Zero and listened to his account of 911, including his past ties to the CIA? Possibly that would have been uncomfortable for too many people in high places including Obama and Dubya.

 

[thanatos144]

We weren't even allowed to see photographs of the body. We got to see Goering's corpse and movies of Tojo's hanging in newsreels, but not Osama.

If Obama had any balls at all, he'd have mounted Osama's body parts on pikes at the Pentagon, ground Zero, and that field in PA until the flesh was gone and then ground up the bones and flushed them down the toilet and put the video on Youtube.

But no, we need to respect the feelings and whatnot of those people.

Shit, the press conference should have been delayed until he could hold the body up on screen Weekend at Bernie's style.

Assuming the raid occurred as advertised, we could've put Osama on trial at Ground Zero and listened to his account of 911, including his past ties to the CIA? Possibly that would have been uncomfortable for too many people in high places including Obama and Dubya.

I am sure the Zionist overlords couldnt have that!!!! Damn them Evil Jews!!!!!
















LMFAO

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Not many people know this, but bin Laden was smuggled out of Pakistan and is now living a secret life as a pool boy in Beverly Hills.

 

[thanatos144]

Not many people know this, but bin Laden was smuggled out of Pakistan and is now living a secret life as a pool boy in Beverly Hills.

I thought Alec Baldwin looked different......

 

[georgephillip]

That's what Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh is claiming in advance of his upcoming book on US national security:

"The story of how U.S. Navy Seals killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid on an compound in Pakistan is 'one big lie,' veteran journalist Seymour Hersh claimed.

“'Not one word of it is true,' the Pulitzer Prize-winning New Yorker writer told the Guardian in an interview. Hersh is currently working on a book about national security, which reportedly includes a chapter on the bin Laden raid. Hersh hinted at revelations to come in his book.

Seymour Hersh Says Story of Osama bin Laden Raid is ?One Big Lie? | TIME.com

Hypothetically, if Obama really did lie about this particular extra-judicial assassination, should he face impeachment?

The bottom line is that if the media fully and totally supports the administration, any crime is possible. The Kennedy brothers should have been kicked out of office the moment the media got wind of the plots to murder the leader of a sovereign island nation 90 miles from the US. The media loved the Kennedy dynasty and supported the criminal administration even when they illegally used the CIA to recruit, train and arm a Cuban invasion force that they abandoned. Radical lefties today joked that the son of an alleged terrorist who happened to be an American citizen and was killed in a drone strike targeted at his father while he was riding in a car "should have picked a better father". That's how depraved the slavish media worship has become. Who issues the execution order on American citizens that bypasses the Constitution? Barry Hussein is guilty of murder.

He gets away with murders and other crimes that none of his predecessors would have, especially among progressives and liberals:

"It doesn't take much to fire up Hersh, the investigative journalist who has been the nemesis of US presidents since the 1960s and who was once described by the Republican party as 'the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist'.

"He is angry about the timidity of journalists in America, their failure to challenge the White House and be an unpopular messenger of truth.

"Don't even get him started on the New York Times which, he says, spends 'so much more time carrying water for Obama than I ever thought they would' – or the death of Osama bin Laden. 'Nothing's been done about that story, it's one big lie, not one word of it is true,' he says of the dramatic US Navy Seals raid in 2011.

"Hersh is writing a book about national security and has devoted a chapter to the bin Laden killing. He says a recent report put out by an 'independent' Pakistani commission about life in the Abottabad compound in which Bin Laden was holed up would not stand up to scrutiny. 'The Pakistanis put out a report, don't get me going on it. Let's put it this way, it was done with considerable American input. It's a bullshit report,' he says hinting of revelations to come in his book.

"The Obama administration lies systematically, he claims, yet none of the leviathans of American media, the TV networks or big print titles, challenge him."

"Seymour Hersh on Obama, NSA and the 'pathetic' American media | Media | theguardian.com

 

[georgephillip]

Ma!

Where's my tin foil hat? Some guy on the Internet is talking about bin Laden

"Hersh returns to US president Barack Obama. He has said before that the confidence of the US press to challenge the US government collapsed post 9/11, but he is adamant that Obama is worse than Bush.

"'Do you think Obama's been judged by any rational standards? Has Guantanamo closed? Is a war over? Is anyone paying any attention to Iraq? Is he seriously talking about going into Syria? We are not doing so well in the 80 wars we are in right now, what the hell does he want to go into another one for. What's going on [with journalists]?' he asks."

Do you think Obama is worse than Bush?

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-ob

 

[percysunshine]

Hypothetically, if Obama really did lie about this particular extra-judicial assassination, should he face impeachment?

What difference, at this point, does it make?

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