Bidens Vote Lead Hits 5 Million. Trumps Loss Shifts From Spanking To Shellacking, Officially

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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


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Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


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It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

Trump won by millions when you deduct the millions of “changed ballots by crooked software, gangster voting counts , fake voting rolls and illegal late votes and dead folks
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

How many TIMES were they counted? That is the question. Gee ,folks! No Monitors!
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

All of the “5 million” votes come from California, so most of that is illegals voting or just outright fraudulent votes.

California took a cue from what Nevada has been doing for years. Registering illegals outside of DMV offices with no ID required!
Years ago I mentioned this on the board but was met with crickets. This year's mass mail-in voting sealed THAT deal for the Dimm's!
Oh well, it WAS a great Republic while it lasted. For now, it's most likely over.....:sleep:.


"Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."
“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"
Congrats,this is the only topic you have ever been objective and non biased on.
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

How many TIMES were they counted? That is the question. Gee ,folks! No Monitors!
:thankusmile::up:
So many of us like you are embarrassing the op with him having shit on his face in utter defeat of being checkmated by so many posters on this site. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:
 
Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.

How happy you and your communist friends around the world must be - your friends in Communist China, Beautiful Botswana, Idyllic Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela, and, oh yes, Ukraine where Joe bribed public officials with $1.5 billion American dollars to stop investigating his corrupt son, who passed on Joe's 10% cut of every criminal take.

:thankusmile:
Indeed the troll has proven in spades he hates america with his avatar he promotes calling a mass murderer who took a shit on the constitution and was a warmonger expanding bush’s illegal war in the Mideast and his dreconian patriot act having the nerve to call him class and trump ass when he kept us out of wars, probably another shill from Langley that has penetrated this site.there are a bunch of paid trolls like him here posting lies as their boss tells them them to.
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it, bud.
There's no fucking way Hiden Biden won this election by hiding in his basement.
They had to manufacture those votes.
Trump got 3 million more votes that Obama and 7 million more than Hillary.
There's no way an Empty Suit like Biden got that many folks to vote for him unless he simply stole votes from Trump to get that number.
it’s time for you to go back to your hole and STAY there. You knuckle dragging dipshits are an assault to our democracy
:thankusmile: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Amen to that brutha:thup:
 
The op here and the other america traiter scum here who hate America are obviously terrified that trump could win in court and serve a second term. :laughing0301: Here is even more butthurtfor this op troll to chew on.

just today a Pennsylvania judge ruled in favor of trump that the votes were not counted fairly turning away monitors who were assigned to monitor and watch the process.:laughing0301::laughing0301::laughing0301::laughing0301: Not looking good for these Biden communist lovers like skew.:laughing0301:
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it, bud.
There's no fucking way Hiden Biden won this election by hiding in his basement.
They had to manufacture those votes.
Trump got 3 million more votes that Obama and 7 million more than Hillary.
There's no way an Empty Suit like Biden got that many folks to vote for him unless he simply stole votes from Trump to get that number.
it’s time for you to go back to your hole and STAY there. You knuckle dragging dipshits are an assault to our democracy
:thankusmile: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Amen to that brutha:thup:
Here
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

How sad that half those votes for Democrats who were told to vote often, so some of them got their hands on the millions of surplus ballots, so many of them played around trying to make a thousand look like each one was written by someone else. No wonder the election commission leaders declared the entire election illegitimate. That means that President Trump gets four more years. I knew the good Lord would intervene. :yes_text12:
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it, bud.
There's no fucking way Hiden Biden won this election by hiding in his basement.
They had to manufacture those votes.
Trump got 3 million more votes that Obama and 7 million more than Hillary.
There's no way an Empty Suit like Biden got that many folks to vote for him unless he simply stole votes from Trump to get that number.

But still, it happened.
And no amount of bitching will change that.

If pedo Joe was doing so well? WHY were poll watchers from the Republican side refused the same access to the mail in ballots that leftard pollsters were? A hundred or so affidavits have been filed by witnesses that witnessed rampant voter fraud and issues with the Dominion software that oddly enough switched votes from Trump to Biden with claims that they were simply innocent glitches but yet all those glitches favored Pedo Joe? How could someone that rarely made appearances and when he did do so? The crowd was 100 times smaller than the attendance of a WNBA game? Don't EVEN blame the Covid threat when you had thousands of antifa and bLM thugs (with no regard to the chi-com flu threat) Marching and rioting but couldn't take a few minutes out their day to throw a little support pedo Joe's way??? I guess the attendance clause for a pedo joe rally wasn't put in their contract?

GTFO with that weak ass shit......

(snicker)
 
A hundred or so affidavits have been filed by witnesses that witnessed rampant voter fraud and issues with the Dominion software...
Before you put credibility onto the affidavits, even Trumps lawyers admitted they came from the tip portion of a website, and many, if not most of the affidavits they received weren't even submitted because fact checking showed they contained spam, lies, and errors.

The hundreds they submitted contained allegations that weren't blatantly false. The judge tossed them back into the garbage heap they were born from.
 
A hundred or so affidavits have been filed by witnesses that witnessed rampant voter fraud and issues with the Dominion software...
Before you put credibility onto the affidavits, even Trumps lawyers admitted they came from the tip portion of a website, and many, if not most of the affidavits they received weren't even submitted because fact checking showed they contained spam, lies, and errors.

The hundreds they submitted contained allegations that weren't blatantly false. The judge tossed them back into the garbage heap they were born from.
You don't even have a clue about the shitstorm that is coming for the sacks of shit that were behind this blatant coup attempt......stay tuned.
 
You don't even have a clue about the shitstorm that is coming for the sacks of shit that were behind this blatant coup attempt......stay tuned.
Judges have been throwing out Trumps lawsuits almost as fast as they get filed.

Trumps law firm in some of those cases, QUIT.
 
Judges rule against Trump campaign in 6 Pennsylvania cases over absentee ballots

 
A hundred or so affidavits have been filed by witnesses that witnessed rampant voter fraud and issues with the Dominion software...
Before you put credibility onto the affidavits, even Trumps lawyers admitted they came from the tip portion of a website, and many, if not most of the affidavits they received weren't even submitted because fact checking showed they contained spam, lies, and errors.

The hundreds they submitted contained allegations that weren't blatantly false. The judge tossed them back into the garbage heap they were born from.
Who told you all of these lies, The Washington Compost, or the New York Slimes?
 
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Map of states won by Trump (red) and Biden (blue) at 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11 November, 2020. Source: Associated Press.


76,983,892 Americans who voted for Joe Biden as the 46th president have had their votes counted by early Wednesday US time, compared with just 71,915,939 for Donald Trump. That is a lead in the popular vote of more than five million. This is now a certified shellacking.


DonaldTrumpA.jpg


Several million more votes are yet to be added with just 69 per cent of votes tallied so far in Alaska, only 80 per cent in New York, 87 per cent in New Jersey and 92 per cent in California.

Steadily over the days since last week’s vote, Biden’s lead has increased. This is not a close election. Frustratingly slow, yes. But close, no.

Official definitions
Psephologists classify defeats by the following margins with these technical terms:
By 2 million votes: butt kicking
By 3 million votes: drubbing
By 4 million votes: spanking
By 5 million votes: shellacking
By 7 million votes: hoomiliation
By 10 million votes: niliation
(And if they don’t, they should.)

Recent history
Biden’s winning margin now beats those of Al Gore in 2000, George W Bush in 2004, Barrack Obama in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.


JoeBiden.jpg


It is still well behind Obama’s margin of 9,550,193 in 2008 and Bill Clinton’s 8,203,716 in 1996. But gaining.

Late global news
Trump’s level of defeat is being reported in France as ‘la ruine bleue’, in Germany as ‘ein katastrophe’, in Spain as ‘un colapso’, in Italy as ‘la devastazione’, in China as 崩溃, in Romania as ‘crăpătură’ and in Botswana as ‘tötta-lifugt’.

Figures quoted here are from Associated Press, taken at about 03.00 New York time on Wednesday 11th November, 2020. The count continues.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it, bud.
There's no fucking way Hiden Biden won this election by hiding in his basement.
They had to manufacture those votes.
Trump got 3 million more votes that Obama and 7 million more than Hillary.
There's no way an Empty Suit like Biden got that many folks to vote for him unless he simply stole votes from Trump to get that number.

But still, it happened.
And no amount of bitching will change that.

And yet Dems lost seats (and are still losing seats) in the house, and a very favorable Dem Senate cycle hinges on the sweeping two races in one State.

That just doesn't compute with the above. Something seems fishy.
 

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