Biden ok’d Ukrainian missile strikes into Russia with our long range missiles.

It’s possible. It’s possible.

Let me consult my Magic 8 Ball just to be sure...

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It don't take no magic to guess that Joe is a lyin' dangerous mofo POC and we gotta get that BUM outta office ASAP.

Funny how many of us knew he was a POS even before the 2020 election, while the left either still can't figure that out, or won't admit it.
 
When Trump and Biden met in the White House last week Ukraine was one of the subjects they discussed.

Trump wants to negotiate an end to the war, but he doesn't want Ukraine in a position of weakness when he does it.

It is very possible that Trump encouraged Biden to do this.

The missiles that Ukraine received are M39 Block 1, and they only received 20 of them. The maximum range is 62 miles, and they throw a cluster munition that is good for soft targets and pockmarking airfields, but they won't take out armor or hardened targets.

They've had these since last October, and they have used some of them already. I don't know how many remain, but it's just a handful.
 
When Trump and Biden met in the White House last week Ukraine was one of the subjects they discussed.

Trump wants to negotiate an end to the war, but he doesn't want Ukraine in a position of weakness when he does it.

It is very possible that Trump encouraged Biden to do this.

The missiles that Ukraine received are M39 Block 1, and they only received 20 of them. The maximum range is 62 miles, and they throw a cluster munition that is good for soft targets and pockmarking airfields, but they won't take out armor or hardened targets.

They've had these since last October, and they have used some of them already. I don't know how many remain, but it's just a handful.

Well, the more Biden ***** things up, the easier it'll be for Trump to work out a deal.

It wouldn't surprise me if The Donald put a bug in Biden's ear, The Donald has always been a master of 4-D chess.
 
$182,990,000,000.That’s how much money Biden & the U.S. Congress have sent to Ukraine since 2022.
That money could have solved homelessness in our own country and rebuilt our crumbling infrastructure.
NO MORE MONEY FOR WARS ABROAD WHILE OUR OWN COUNTRY IS IN DECAY.
 

Putin already declared that this would be an act of war.

So question for all serious thinking members:

Is it wise of Biden to authorize Ukrainian use of long range U.S. missiles to strike inside Russia under all the circumstances?

Also, would it be more appropriate to defer such crucial decisions for the second Trump term?
Yes, it would be more appropriate to do so. Making this expansion of the conflict a fait accompli and something for the incoming administration to deal with limits their ranges of responses to the situation.

I have never looked to the Bidet administration to do anything based on wisdom. Avarice? Sure. Political calculation? Absolutely.

How do common folk respond, those not in spheres of influence? I got nothing. I will say this, I have the Snake Plissken attitude. "I don't give a **** about your war or your president." I apply it to both the one leaving and the one coming in.
 
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Putin already declared that this would be an act of war.

So question for all serious thinking members:

Is it wise of Biden to authorize Ukrainian use of long range U.S. missiles to strike inside Russia under all the circumstances?

Also, would it be more appropriate to defer such crucial decisions for the second Trump term?
Almost a given, since Imperial Russia called in tens of thousands of North Korean troops to attack Ukraine.
 
Look what suddenly happened:

Two undersea internet cables in the Baltic Sea have been suddenly disrupted, according to local telecommunications companies, amid fresh warnings of possible Russian interference with global undersea infrastructure.

A communications cable between Lithuania and Sweden was cut on Sunday morning around 10:00 a.m. local time, a spokesperson from telecommunications company Telia Lithuania confirmed to CNN.


 
Well, the more Biden ***** things up, the easier it'll be for Trump to work out a deal.

It wouldn't surprise me if The Donald put a bug in Biden's ear, The Donald has always been a master of 4-D chess.
Actully no. It will be much more difficult for Trump make any deal after the Russian retaliation strike agaisnt, say, one of American bases on Alaska (which will be quite possible Russian reaction on the supposed direct American military attack agaisnt Russian military on the undisputed Russian soil).
 
Look what suddenly happened:

Two undersea internet cables in the Baltic Sea have been suddenly disrupted, according to local telecommunications companies, amid fresh warnings of possible Russian interference with global undersea infrastructure.

A communications cable between Lithuania and Sweden was cut on Sunday morning around 10:00 a.m. local time, a spokesperson from telecommunications company Telia Lithuania confirmed to CNN.


If NATO countries can attack Russian underwater propery in Baltic sea, its quite possible that Russia also can attack property of NATO countries there.
 
Actully no. It will be much more difficult for Trump make any deal after the Russian retaliation strike agaisnt, say, one of American bases on Alaska (which will be quite possible Russian reaction on the supposed direct American military attack agaisnt Russian military on the undisputed Russian soil).
Won't happen...............NATO Europe would be the ticket.
 
If NATO countries can attack Russian underwater propery in Baltic sea, its quite possible that Russia also can attack property of NATO countries there.
You're missing the point..............these aren't Ivan's undersea cables.................NATO cables.
 
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Won't happen...............NATO Europe would be the ticket.
May be, it would be US-preffered Russian retaliation. But much more likely, that in the case of direct American attack, Russia will prefer to attack American targets on American soil.
 
May be, it would be US-preffered Russian retaliation. But much more likely, that in the case of direct American attack, Russia will prefer to attack American targets on American soil.
I think you are wrong. NATO is the target.
 
Actully no. It will be much more difficult for Trump make any deal after the Russian retaliation strike agaisnt, say, one of American bases on Alaska (which will be quite possible Russian reaction on the supposed direct American military attack agaisnt Russian military on the undisputed Russian soil).

Thanks for the warning. I'm sure your government appreciates you giving away their strategic plans.

You can expect a visit from the GRU. :laughing0301:
 
You're missing the point..............these aren't Ivan's undersea cables.................NATO cables.
I got it. Somebody destroyed Russian Nord Stream pipes. And then - somebody destroyed some NATO undersea cables. May be, it's just a coincidence. May be, it were "Ukrainian terrorists" in both cases. But it's quite possible that NATO destroyed Russian pipes and Russia destroyed NATO's cables as a part of retaliation.
 
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