Biden Is Now All-In on Taking Out China

[g5000]

The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences.​

The Trump rubes have been told to say Biden loves Xi and works for Xi. They even call him Xiden sometimes.

But in reality:

Trump on China’s Xi: ‘We love each other’​

​

Trump said that at Davos.

You know, the place where the Deep State meets to plot our subjugation and stuff...

Out here in the real world:

Donald Trump’s scattershot regulation and erratic public statements offered little clarity to allies, adversaries, and companies around the world. Joe Biden’s actions have been more systematic, but long-term U.S. goals have remained hidden beneath bureaucratic opacity and cautious platitudes.

Last Friday, however, a dense regulatory filing from a little-known federal agency gave the strongest hint yet of U.S. intentions. The Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced new extraterritorial limits on the export to China of advanced semiconductors, chip-making equipment, and supercomputer components. The controls, more so than any earlier U.S. action, reveal a single-minded focus on thwarting Chinese capabilities at a broad and fundamental level. Although framed as a national security measure, the primary damage to China will be economic, on a scale well out of proportion to Washington’s cited military and intelligence concerns.

[snip]

This shift portends even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance) deemed strategic. The pace and details are uncertain, but the strategic objective and political commitment are now clearer than ever. China’s technological rise will be slowed at any price.

 

[g5000]

Biden goes it alone in his trade assault on China​

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Successive US administrations have been chuntering about encircling, outflanking or wrongfooting China’s economy for so long it’s quite startling when one seems to mean it. The Biden administration’s announcement on October 7 of new semiconductor export controls achieved what Donald Trump failed in four years of flailing about with trade policy — it credibly threatened that the US and China, at least their high-tech sectors, will be decoupled by force. The prophesied “weaponised interdependence”, the exploitation of trade and finance linkages to exert geopolitical pressure, now appears to be here.

The breadth of the controls was a big advance on Trump’s earlier measures. In particular, the prohibitions on US citizens and green card holders working in China’s semiconductor industry meant hundreds of employees, including from the world-leading Dutch manufacturer ASML, stopping work within days.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Surely you dont actually believe that.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Good little Prog. You are not going to enjoy next Tues.

 

[Donald H]

Don't read too much into any of the China/US relations topic coming from Biden or other politicians until after the election.

The truth is going to be set aside, in favour of China hate having a positive effect on Americans who vote.

Later, the demands of competing with China will be again considered carefully.

Neither party is yet committed to a fight with China on the economic front.
And a military fight is off the table so far completely.

 

[g5000]

Surely you dont actually believe that.

Yes, when confronted with facts which contradict your carefully crafted delusions, deny the facts. It's what you do.

Tell me, is this fake?

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2022-21658.pdf

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yes, when confronted with facts which contradict your carefully crafted delusions, deny the facts. It's what you do.

Tell me, is this fake?

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2022-21658.pdf

It's just another attempt to keep the American public from learning whats really going on.

 

[g5000]

It's just another attempt to keep the American public from learning whats really going on.

Ooooohhhhh. A conspiiiiiiraaacccyyyyyyy!



You're right. They know you tards won't read the regulation since it is longer than a tweet.

Hiding in plain sight! Brilliant!

 

[Lastamender]

The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences.​

The Trump rubes have been told to say Biden loves Xi and works for Xi. They even call him Xiden sometimes.

But in reality:

Trump on China’s Xi: ‘We love each other’​

​

Trump said that at Davos.

You know, the place where the Deep State meets to plot our subjugation and stuff...

Out here in the real world:

Donald Trump’s scattershot regulation and erratic public statements offered little clarity to allies, adversaries, and companies around the world. Joe Biden’s actions have been more systematic, but long-term U.S. goals have remained hidden beneath bureaucratic opacity and cautious platitudes.

Last Friday, however, a dense regulatory filing from a little-known federal agency gave the strongest hint yet of U.S. intentions. The Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced new extraterritorial limits on the export to China of advanced semiconductors, chip-making equipment, and supercomputer components. The controls, more so than any earlier U.S. action, reveal a single-minded focus on thwarting Chinese capabilities at a broad and fundamental level. Although framed as a national security measure, the primary damage to China will be economic, on a scale well out of proportion to Washington’s cited military and intelligence concerns.

[snip]

This shift portends even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance) deemed strategic. The pace and details are uncertain, but the strategic objective and political commitment are now clearer than ever. China’s technological rise will be slowed at any price.

China owns Incest Joe.

 

[Indeependent]

The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences.​

The Trump rubes have been told to say Biden loves Xi and works for Xi. They even call him Xiden sometimes.

But in reality:

Trump on China’s Xi: ‘We love each other’​

​

Trump said that at Davos.

You know, the place where the Deep State meets to plot our subjugation and stuff...

Out here in the real world:

Donald Trump’s scattershot regulation and erratic public statements offered little clarity to allies, adversaries, and companies around the world. Joe Biden’s actions have been more systematic, but long-term U.S. goals have remained hidden beneath bureaucratic opacity and cautious platitudes.

Last Friday, however, a dense regulatory filing from a little-known federal agency gave the strongest hint yet of U.S. intentions. The Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced new extraterritorial limits on the export to China of advanced semiconductors, chip-making equipment, and supercomputer components. The controls, more so than any earlier U.S. action, reveal a single-minded focus on thwarting Chinese capabilities at a broad and fundamental level. Although framed as a national security measure, the primary damage to China will be economic, on a scale well out of proportion to Washington’s cited military and intelligence concerns.

[snip]

This shift portends even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance) deemed strategic. The pace and details are uncertain, but the strategic objective and political commitment are now clearer than ever. China’s technological rise will be slowed at any price.

I bet it has nothing to do with the current polls!

 

[g5000]

China owns Incest Joe.

You have become way too stupid to bear.

Sorry.

PLONK

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Ooooohhhhh. A conspiiiiiiraaacccyyyyyyy!



You're right. They know you tards won't read the regulation since it is longer than a tweet.

Hiding in plain sight! Brilliant!

How about we wait and see what he actually does?
Dems are famous for making up shit and never following through.

 

[Mac-7]

The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences.​

The Trump rubes have been told to say Biden loves Xi and works for Xi. They even call him Xiden sometimes.

But in reality:

Trump on China’s Xi: ‘We love each other’​

​

Trump said that at Davos.

You know, the place where the Deep State meets to plot our subjugation and stuff...

Out here in the real world:

Donald Trump’s scattershot regulation and erratic public statements offered little clarity to allies, adversaries, and companies around the world. Joe Biden’s actions have been more systematic, but long-term U.S. goals have remained hidden beneath bureaucratic opacity and cautious platitudes.

Last Friday, however, a dense regulatory filing from a little-known federal agency gave the strongest hint yet of U.S. intentions. The Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced new extraterritorial limits on the export to China of advanced semiconductors, chip-making equipment, and supercomputer components. The controls, more so than any earlier U.S. action, reveal a single-minded focus on thwarting Chinese capabilities at a broad and fundamental level. Although framed as a national security measure, the primary damage to China will be economic, on a scale well out of proportion to Washington’s cited military and intelligence concerns.

[snip]

This shift portends even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance) deemed strategic. The pace and details are uncertain, but the strategic objective and political commitment are now clearer than ever. China’s technological rise will be slowed at any price.

Good for biden

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yanno............if the US actually did get into a serious disagreement with China, there would be a huge outcry in this country to mend relations with them in a few weeks, when Wal Mart and other cheap stores started to run out of goods made there.

Sorry, but it's just not feasible for the US to start a trade war with China, they make most of what we use over here. And, while you can blame the politicians for making it easier for companies to send their manufacturing over there, you should really blame the companies themselves, as they are the ones looking for the cheapest labor they can get so they can maximize their profits.

 

[DudleySmith]

Biden goes it alone in his trade assault on China​

​

Successive US administrations have been chuntering about encircling, outflanking or wrongfooting China’s economy for so long it’s quite startling when one seems to mean it. The Biden administration’s announcement on October 7 of new semiconductor export controls achieved what Donald Trump failed in four years of flailing about with trade policy — it credibly threatened that the US and China, at least their high-tech sectors, will be decoupled by force. The prophesied “weaponised interdependence”, the exploitation of trade and finance linkages to exert geopolitical pressure, now appears to be here.

The breadth of the controls was a big advance on Trump’s earlier measures. In particular, the prohibitions on US citizens and green card holders working in China’s semiconductor industry meant hundreds of employees, including from the world-leading Dutch manufacturer ASML, stopping work within days.

Laughable rubbish, as are the claims he's really supporting the Ukraine against Russian colonialism. He's dragging his feet all around, and so is his Party. If he and his Party were truly serious there would be massive roundups and deportations of all the Red Chinese spies and 5th columnists and seizures of their assets when he took office.

 

[DudleySmith]

I bet it has nothing to do with the current polls!

And as usual it's noise, as he doesn't do much of anything about them. But his base hopes we're credulous enough not to note he's just stealing from Trump's playbook, but just the rhetoric and not by actions. All of the companies were tired of being squeezed, and of course they're now demanding we subsidize their 'Returns' with massive corporate welfare handouts.

 

[g5000]

Yanno............if the US actually did get into a serious disagreement with China, there would be a huge outcry in this country to mend relations with them in a few weeks, when Wal Mart and other cheap stores started to run out of goods made there.

Sorry, but it's just not feasible for the US to start a trade war with China, they make most of what we use over here. And, while you can blame the politicians for making it easier for companies to send their manufacturing over there, you should really blame the companies themselves, as they are the ones looking for the cheapest labor they can get so they can maximize their profits.

That's why Trump's far left protectionist tariff war was such a catastrophic failure. Our trade deficit with China widened to a record level.

I tried to warn the Trump bleevers in 2016 that their messiah is a far left New York limousine liberal Democrat, but they didn't listen.

Now Joe Biden has chosen to keep those far left tariffs in place. If that doesn't validate Trump's liberal credentials, nothing does.

I have not checked, but I would guess our trade imbalance with China is even larger now.

However, this new move by the Biden administration is going much further. This is a ban on exporting semiconductors to China. That's huge.

It won't affect US retailers, though it will affect US manufacturers like ASML. Even though ASML is a Dutch company, they have a big presence in US manufacturing of semiconductors.

 

[Indeependent]

That's why Trump's far left protectionist tariff war was such a catastrophic failure. Our trade deficit with China widened to a record level.

I tried to warn the Trump bleevers in 2016 that their messiah is a far left New York limousine liberal Democrat, but they didn't listen.

Now Joe Biden has chosen to keep those far left tariffs in place. If that doesn't validate Trump's liberal credentials, nothing does.

I have not checked, but I would guess our trade imbalance with China is even larger now.

However, this new move by the Biden administration is going much further. This is a ban on exporting semiconductors to China. That's huge.

It won't affect US retailers, though it will affect US manufacturers like ASML. Even though ASML is a Dutch company, they have a big presence in US manufacturing of semiconductors.

Trump didn't go far enough.
We have to phase out legal trade with China.

 

[g5000]

Trump didn't go far enough.
We have to phase out legal trade with China.

So long as you don't mind paying $50 for your underwear.

 

[MarathonMike]

The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences.​

The Trump rubes have been told to say Biden loves Xi and works for Xi. They even call him Xiden sometimes.

But in reality:

Trump on China’s Xi: ‘We love each other’​

​

Trump said that at Davos.

You know, the place where the Deep State meets to plot our subjugation and stuff...

Out here in the real world:

Donald Trump’s scattershot regulation and erratic public statements offered little clarity to allies, adversaries, and companies around the world. Joe Biden’s actions have been more systematic, but long-term U.S. goals have remained hidden beneath bureaucratic opacity and cautious platitudes.

Last Friday, however, a dense regulatory filing from a little-known federal agency gave the strongest hint yet of U.S. intentions. The Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced new extraterritorial limits on the export to China of advanced semiconductors, chip-making equipment, and supercomputer components. The controls, more so than any earlier U.S. action, reveal a single-minded focus on thwarting Chinese capabilities at a broad and fundamental level. Although framed as a national security measure, the primary damage to China will be economic, on a scale well out of proportion to Washington’s cited military and intelligence concerns.

[snip]

This shift portends even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance) deemed strategic. The pace and details are uncertain, but the strategic objective and political commitment are now clearer than ever. China’s technological rise will be slowed at any price.

Take China out? Oh you mean take them out to dinner and let the taxpayer pay for it, I see what you mean.