Biden is going to screw us on 401Ks

Biden is talking about taxing dividend income as ordinary income as well.



All capital gains should be taxed as ordinary income. Money you worked for should not be taxed higher than investment income.

You are taking away from the incentive to invest. Capital gains on after-tax income that you have risked are going to cut into your return. Now, what happens when that money “sits” on the sidelines or otherwise seeks out tax-friendly investments such as overseas investments over public companies. How does that impact 401(k)’s and pensions? How does that impact public companies?

Check your class warfare at the door for a moment and think on a macro basis.

Does paying higher tax make an incentive not to work?
Labor creates wealth. Investment just moves it around.

If you don’t invest your money, what will you do with it? Stick it under a mattress?

I did not say money would not be invested. I said it would incentivize some to focus on tax-friendly investments first. Further, if I choose not to work because of taxes, who does that hurt more; myself or others? When I invest in companies yes I help myself but I also benefit other investors and the economy more than I would hurt them by not investing, not working.
 
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In it’s quest for supply side incentives, we have sold out the working class in favor of the capitalists

In doing so, we have shifted the burden of capitalists to support our society on to those working for their money.
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Hardly any surprise there. Liberalism always has the exact opposite of the stated effect. Just one more thing Trump ought to be pointing out to people if he was a more experienced, practiced professional public speaker.
This is all right wingers know how to do even with a Commerce Clause and a central bank:


You are confused Moon Bat.

That worthless Muslim shithead Obama added ten trillion dollars to that debt clock and all we got for it was increased poverty, decreased family income, increased taxes, a depleted military and dismal economic growth.

Biden will continue that agenda of destruction.

Only an idiot would vote for that worthless piece of corrupt shit.


JUST THINK: For Joe Biden to win, the nation would have to decide to abandon a president who is finally outside the Washington swamp who has lowered their taxes, given them jobs, raised their wages, deregulated their lives, made them safer, and is now about to bring them a vaccine to spare them further Covid, for a two time loser who has never gotten more than two delegates who is promising to take us right back to the very mess that the nation voted to escape from in 2010, 2014 and 2016.

HARDLY SEEMS POSSIBLE UNLESS EITHER:
  1. The election process is now totally corrupt and rigged.
  2. Or the people of this country have become such shallow, fickle imbeciles that they deserve the consequences.
 
JUST THINK: For Joe Biden to win, the nation would have to decide to abandon a president who is finally outside the Washington swamp

A President who has provided disastrous leadership in the worst health crisis in 100 years
A President who wants to take away health coverage for tens of millions
A President who has destroyed our global alliances and placated Dictators
A President who was impeached for demanding personal favors in return for military aid
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home.
Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.
 
JUST THINK: For Joe Biden to win, the nation would have to decide to abandon a president who is finally outside the Washington swamp

A President who has provided disastrous leadership in the worst health crisis in 100 years
A President who wants to take away health coverage for tens of millions
A President who has destroyed our global alliances and placated Dictators
A President who was impeached for demanding personal favors in return for military aid
Wow, that's some misleading points you've covered. How about responding to the topic of the thread, RW?
 
I have been warning about Biden's plan to tax and punish 401k's for weeks. Dems have made several attempts to get their blood sucking vampire fangs sunk into our retirement savings. I don't think voters understand the danger Dems pose.

If uninformed voters give these corrupt Dem bastards control of Congress and the White House well then they get what they deserve. Maybe they need to get screwed over by Dems again to learn their lesson.
 
JUST THINK: For Joe Biden to win, the nation would have to decide to abandon a president who is finally outside the Washington swamp

A President who has provided disastrous leadership in the worst health crisis in 100 years
A President who wants to take away health coverage for tens of millions
A President who has destroyed our global alliances and placated Dictators
A President who was impeached for demanding personal favors in return for military aid
Wow, that's some misleading points you've covered. How about responding to the topic of the thread, RW?
Already have
In multiple posts
 
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home. Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.

Tip of the iceberg. My flaming liberal governor just tried to grab 8% of the sales price if you sell your home. 8% right off the top forget a tax just on the gain. That's $40,000 the state grabs on a $500k sales price. No matter if you even have that much in equity after closing costs.
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home.
Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.
Biden is not touching capital gains on the sale of your house. Currently $500,000 for a couple.

 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.

The article seems to think the reason small businesses offer retirement benefits is so that the owner and higher income employees benefit. Funny, I thought the reason employers offered retirement benefits was to attract and keep workers.

It is a solid plan. Currently higher income employees derive a greater benefit from 401K contributions. This proposal "levels the playing field". Low income workers will derive the same benefit, dollar for dollar, as high income workers. Opposition to this proposal removes all doubt, Republicans have never been for leveling the playing field and I have always been driven by Proverbs.

The rich man’s wealth is his strong city; The destruction of the poor is their poverty.
Proverbs 10:15
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home.
Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.
Biden is not touching capital gains on the sale of your house. Currently $500,000 for a couple.

The optimum word is, 'CURRENTLY'.
Tax codes can change yearly.
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home.
Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.
Biden is not touching capital gains on the sale of your house. Currently $500,000 for a couple.

The optimum word is, 'CURRENTLY'.
Tax codes can change yearly.

No President is dumb enough to take away the home sale exemption.

Other capital gains are up for grabs as is the corporate rate
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home.
Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.
Biden is not touching capital gains on the sale of your house. Currently $500,000 for a couple.

The optimum word is, 'CURRENTLY'.
Tax codes can change yearly.

No President is dumb enough to take away the home sale exemption.

Other capital gains are up for grabs as is the corporate rate
So says Rightwinger, gives me all the confidence in the world.
Biden says he's not going to raise taxes on the middle class.....just get rid of the Trump tax cuts.
Not sure how this gets reconciled.
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.

Fewer than 40% of American companies offer 401K's. So once again, you are concerned with the top 40% of the wealthiest and highest earning Americans being favoured over the 60% of working Americans who don't even have access to a 401K.

ALL of your tax policies favour the top 20% of Americans to the detriment of the 80%. It is long past time to restore balance to the playing field. The rich don't need to have their wealth and privilege protected. Low income full time workers shouldn't need public assistance to feed their families.
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home.
Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.
Biden is not touching capital gains on the sale of your house. Currently $500,000 for a couple.

The optimum word is, 'CURRENTLY'.
Tax codes can change yearly.

No President is dumb enough to take away the home sale exemption.

Other capital gains are up for grabs as is the corporate rate


While the former President has publicly backed Biden – very late in the process – he is said to be warning his inner circle that he may not be fit for office.


“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up,” one Democrat who spoke to the former president recalled him saying.
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.
Not only the 401K's, but also on the capital gains when you sell your home.
Yet, Biden stated that taxes wouldn't be raised on the middle class.
Biden is not touching capital gains on the sale of your house. Currently $500,000 for a couple.

The optimum word is, 'CURRENTLY'.
Tax codes can change yearly.

No President is dumb enough to take away the home sale exemption.

Other capital gains are up for grabs as is the corporate rate
So says Rightwinger, gives me all the confidence in the world.
Biden says he's not going to raise taxes on the middle class.....just get rid of the Trump tax cuts.
Not sure how this gets reconciled.

It's easy. Raise the upper class and corporate rates, and leave the rates of people making less than $200,000, the same. This part isn't rocket science. The tough part is going through and closing the loop holes, that see companies like Amazon paying nothing. That's obscene.
 
Because Biden is a stupid socialist obsessed with trying to make things more "fair" he is going to screw up 401K accounts.

Liberals fuck up everything they touch.



A frequently overlooked part of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's platform would upend the traditional tax preferences of retirement accounts like 401(k) plans — a change that industry experts warned could force some small companies to cut those benefits.

Biden has vowed to convert the current deductibility of traditional retirement contributions into matching refundable credits for 401(k)s, IRAs and others.

The proposal from the former vice president is intended to level the playing the field of tax deferral in traditional retirement accounts, with the intent of boosting saving among low-income earners. But industry experts cautioned that by reducing the benefits that higher earners receive, the Biden campaign may have increased the likelihood of businesses abandoning those retirement benefits altogether.

Fewer than 40% of American companies offer 401K's. So once again, you are concerned with the top 40% of the wealthiest and highest earning Americans being favoured over the 60% of working Americans who don't even have access to a 401K.

ALL of your tax policies favour the top 20% of Americans to the detriment of the 80%. It is long past time to restore balance to the playing field. The rich don't need to have their wealth and privilege protected. Low income full time workers shouldn't need public assistance to feed their families.
401K's are for the working stiffs in America and a vast majority of those who participate are the middle class.
Please don't downplay the importance of 401k"s for middle America.
 

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