Biden Is Desperate to Regain Bases, Intel, Allies He Threw Away in Afghanistan

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Incompetence piled on top of incompetence is the game of the dipshit's [mal]admonistration.

And why Milley is still ChairJCOS is amazing.



Presidentish [sic] Joe Biden is desperate to get back what he gave away in his badly bungled bugout from Afghanistan, as revealed in a new AP report.

The AP puts the best spin on the story it can, only briefly mentioning in the lead what it politely calls “the backdrop of the troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.” But as it turns out, the Joint Chiefs chair and China hack Gen. Mark Milley “is meeting in Greece with NATO counterparts this weekend, hoping to forge more basing, intelligence sharing and other agreements to prevent terrorist groups from regrouping.”

The missing context: We already had all of those things prior to Biden’s petulant decision to fully pull out of Bagram Air Base.

In recent years when I wrote that it was time to give up nation-building and other feel-good efforts in Afghanistan, I never dreamed anyone would order every last American and NATO troop out of Bagram.

Reduced footprint? Sure. More burden-sharing with our allies? If at all possible, of course.

Keeping a token force at Bagram meant being able to keep an eye on the local bad guys with global ambitions. That’s without much risk (we had one combat fatality in Afghanistan in all of 2020) or expense. And without relying on a mostly mythical “over the horizon” strike capability.

A few guards, some service troops, some drones, and their supplies.

That’s all we needed in Afghanistan to make sure al-Qaeda or ISIS couldn’t metastasize there yet again.

Now we need to negotiate with countries that no longer trust us to regain the things Biden was in such a rush to throw away.

So Biden is desperate enough to try and start from scratch because these negotiations make it clear that this “over the horizon” capability requires a lot of intel and assets much closer than that:



The U.S. military has said it can conduct counterterrorism surveillance and, if necessary, strikes in Afghanistan from “over the horizon” — meaning from assets based in other countries. But they have made it clear that surveillance flights from bases in the Persian Gulf are long and provide limited time in the air over Afghanistan. So they have talked about seeking basing agreements, overflight rights and increased intelligence-sharing with nations closer to Afghanistan, including some neighbors.

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Incompetence piled on top of incompetence is the game of the dipshit's [mal]admonistration.

And why Milley is still ChairJCOS is amazing.



Presidentish [sic] Joe Biden is desperate to get back what he gave away in his badly bungled bugout from Afghanistan, as revealed in a new AP report.

The AP puts the best spin on the story it can, only briefly mentioning in the lead what it politely calls “the backdrop of the troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.” But as it turns out, the Joint Chiefs chair and China hack Gen. Mark Milley “is meeting in Greece with NATO counterparts this weekend, hoping to forge more basing, intelligence sharing and other agreements to prevent terrorist groups from regrouping.”

The missing context: We already had all of those things prior to Biden’s petulant decision to fully pull out of Bagram Air Base.

In recent years when I wrote that it was time to give up nation-building and other feel-good efforts in Afghanistan, I never dreamed anyone would order every last American and NATO troop out of Bagram.

Reduced footprint? Sure. More burden-sharing with our allies? If at all possible, of course.

Keeping a token force at Bagram meant being able to keep an eye on the local bad guys with global ambitions. That’s without much risk (we had one combat fatality in Afghanistan in all of 2020) or expense. And without relying on a mostly mythical “over the horizon” strike capability.

A few guards, some service troops, some drones, and their supplies.

That’s all we needed in Afghanistan to make sure al-Qaeda or ISIS couldn’t metastasize there yet again.

Now we need to negotiate with countries that no longer trust us to regain the things Biden was in such a rush to throw away.

So Biden is desperate enough to try and start from scratch because these negotiations make it clear that this “over the horizon” capability requires a lot of intel and assets much closer than that:





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We have bases all around the Persian Gulf, we don't need bases in Afghanistan.. Al Qaeda is quite small now and the remnant is in South Yemen. Let the Taliban fight them and ISIS..

Do YOU want to go back and start a new war?
 
excalibur I used to think it was just incompetence. But after seeing what Biden and company has done to the country in 8 months it's clear to me, this is a concerted effort to weaken America on every front.
Truer words were never spoken, Mike. There is something nefarious going on from the democrats tent
 
Why were the troops pulled before the American citizens?
Why did Biden tell Ghani to change the perception of the war?

Trump pulled the troops last year. Ask him.

There is nothing for us in Afghanistan. It was a mistake. The Taliban didn't want ENRON's pipeline.

Let the situation settle down.. and when they start letting companies bid on mining concessions revisit the whole idea.
 
Trump pulled the troops last year. Ask him.

There is nothing for us in Afghanistan. It was a mistake. The Taliban didn't want ENRON's pipeline.

Let the situation settle down.. and when they start letting companies bid on mining concessions revisit the whole idea.
No matter how you twist the facts, you still can't get it right, Surada.
We have citizens over there right now and can't. That's a fact.
 
I can't imagine anybody in that part of the world that would supply us with intelligence after what we did to those who helped us in the past. Except maybe double agents feeding us bad data. Who in their right mind would trust us after that? And I'm sure that probably goes for any other country in the world, when you get a reputation for bailing on your friends, it kinda sticks with you. It's gonna be awhile I think before we are trusted again.
 
Not according to Republicans who supported his action to leave afghanistan.
That little tirade won't change their mind now it's done.
It wasn't that the republicans didn't want to leave, it's HOW WE LEFT.
What president takes the troops out and leaves American citizens?
But you know that and just being the asshole that you are.
Stay down under Colon, you suck up here.
 
It wasn't that the republicans didn't want to leave, it's HOW WE LEFT.
What president takes the troops out and leaves American citizens?
But you know that and just being the asshole that you are.
Stay down under Colon, you suck up here.

Where's your evidence that's documented he left American born citizens behind. Not Afghanis, Americans who were there exploiting the war.
 
Where's your evidence that's documented he left American born citizens behind. Not Afghanis, Americans who were there exploiting the war.
WTF? Can't you Google, libbie?
Oh here....

As the final five U.S. military transport aircraft lifted off out of Afghanistan Monday, they left behind up to 200 Americans and thousands of desperate Afghans who couldn’t get out and now must rely on the Taliban to allow their departure.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the U.S. will continue to try to get Americans and Afghans out of the country, and will work with Afghanistan’s neighbors to secure their departure either over land or by charter flight once the Kabul airport reopens.
 
Incompetence piled on top of incompetence is the game of the dipshit's [mal]admonistration.

And why Milley is still ChairJCOS is amazing.


Presidentish [sic] Joe Biden is desperate to get back what he gave away in his badly bungled bugout from Afghanistan, as revealed in a new AP report.
The AP puts the best spin on the story it can, only briefly mentioning in the lead what it politely calls “the backdrop of the troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.” But as it turns out, the Joint Chiefs chair and China hack Gen. Mark Milley “is meeting in Greece with NATO counterparts this weekend, hoping to forge more basing, intelligence sharing and other agreements to prevent terrorist groups from regrouping.”
The missing context: We already had all of those things prior to Biden’s petulant decision to fully pull out of Bagram Air Base.
In recent years when I wrote that it was time to give up nation-building and other feel-good efforts in Afghanistan, I never dreamed anyone would order every last American and NATO troop out of Bagram.
Reduced footprint? Sure. More burden-sharing with our allies? If at all possible, of course.
Keeping a token force at Bagram meant being able to keep an eye on the local bad guys with global ambitions. That’s without much risk (we had one combat fatality in Afghanistan in all of 2020) or expense. And without relying on a mostly mythical “over the horizon” strike capability.
A few guards, some service troops, some drones, and their supplies.
That’s all we needed in Afghanistan to make sure al-Qaeda or ISIS couldn’t metastasize there yet again.
Now we need to negotiate with countries that no longer trust us to regain the things Biden was in such a rush to throw away.
So Biden is desperate enough to try and start from scratch because these negotiations make it clear that this “over the horizon” capability requires a lot of intel and assets much closer than that:
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Milley should have faced a firing squad last week
 

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