Biden & Democrats Refuse Talks To Halt Government Shutdown

[Independent thinker]

Nobody is gonna save your bacon

People can't even afford bacon.

 

[Independent thinker]

Tell the Freedom Caucus. Immigration reform has to be bi-partisan.

Accept for the fact it isn't bipartisan. Republicans want illegal immigration to stop because it is illegal. Democrats don't want it to stop at all.

 

[Independent thinker]

Why?

We don't need "reform"
Enforce the laws on the book and problem solved. This mess is in Bidens lap and no one elses.

Reform means let in the illegals and make them legal, even up to the point of a path to citizenship and voting. Meanwhile, nothing gets done to stop more illegals from coming.

 

[bdtex]

They won't even talk. Zero, zip, nada. Republicans have run up against a brick wall. You can't negotiate a deal with a side that refuses to even talk. The biggest part for Democrats is that even as the illegal immigrant crisis has reached epic proportions Democrats refuse to even talk about how to stop it, even as their very own cities are begging for help to stop it.

Democrats dismiss McCarthy calls for Biden to deal on government shutdown

Democrats are largely dismissing calls by Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) for President Biden to cut a deal to avoid a shutdown as internal divides in the House GOP dominate attention. McCarthy has made repeated calls this week for the president to come to the bargaining table, as the party...

www.yahoo.com

That's not even a nice try. Lame post. Very low energy.

 

[Independent thinker]

“The deal to avoid the shutdown was negotiated when we negotiated on the debt ceiling,” Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) told The Hill. “So, Kevin essentially made an agreement, voted on that agreement, and now he’s saying I want another agreement — which is ridiculous.”

McCarthy is in no position to deal
He can’t even deliver his own party

He made an agreement that spending wouldn't go over those levels but it was not an acknowledgement that would spend it all.

 

[Independent thinker]

if the laws on the books are not being enforced the repubs would have biden impeached by now, with enough dems for removal. isn't that proof that that the current laws are being enforced?

the complaint from america's job creators (the small businesses that make this economy great) is that "we need MORE illegals!"

You're talking about Dems who want to give them jobs, all the way up to Biden.

 

[White 6]

I never said it was 100% about the border.

It shouldn't even be 1% about anything but budgetary line item numbers, otherwise it is just trying to hold the country for ransom, and if it screws up the country, the voters will remember in November and November after next.

 

[struth]

Where's your link proving that?

Here's my link.

MSN

www.msn.com

Proving the four bills were passed?

 

[rightwinger]

He made an agreement that spending wouldn't go over those levels but it was not an acknowledgement that would spend it all.

McCarthy and Republicans made a deal they would not shut down Government if they received concessions on the debt limit

They lied

 

[struth]

McCarthy and Republicans made a deal they would not shut down Government if they received concessions on the debt limit

They lied

No they didn’t they came to an agreement on the debt limit you fool and it was passéd

This is something completely different

You stupid dembots don’t even have a clue

 

[my2¢]

McCarthy and Republicans made a deal they would not shut down Government if they received concessions on the debt limit

They lied

Yep, but it is mainly on McCarthy. He failed to live up to the promise made to gain his position as Speaker. Back in January he promised Republicans to cut 2024 spending to 2022's level, then 5 months later he cuts deal with Biden keeping 2024 spending on level with 2023.

Now neither the House Freedom Caucus nor Biden want to back-track on deals McCarthy agreed to.

The debt ceiling deal keeps fiscal 2024 spending flat at this year's levels, allowing a 1% increase for fiscal 2025.

Representative Ken Buck, a member of the far-right House Freedom Caucus, said the deal had failed to deliver the deeper spending cuts that McCarthy had promised his party when he ran for speaker in January.

Buck said that McCarthy promised Republicans that he would cut spending levels to fiscal 2022 levels, not the higher 2023 levels agreed in the deal, making the deal a loss the party.

To regain conservatives' trust, Buck added that McCarthy's future actions will need to "involve spending responsibly" and stop relying on the votes of Democrats as he did to pass the debt ceiling suspension.

The deal was approved by 149 House Republicans and 165 Democrats, strong majorities of both parties. Roughly half the 76 Republican no votes were from the ultra-conservative Freedom Caucus, while 46 Democrats, mostly progressives, opposed the deal, saying it enforced stringent work requirements on poor families who receive food assistance or monetary aid and others who face obstacles to employment.

McCarthy lauds U.S. debt ceiling deal, House conservatives divided

 

[j-mac]

The GOP in the House has not been bi-partisan, yes, you are right.

And, yes, the Senate sent a bi-partisan package to the House.

So, to be “bi-partisan” to you means that Democrats send a package that is crammed with pork, has nothing that Republicans want in the bill, and does nothing for America, and Republicans have to accept it, or they’re responsible?

Oh, fuck that!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The GOP sent a package to the Dems.

Did they?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They won't even talk. Zero, zip, nada. Republicans have run up against a brick wall. You can't negotiate a deal with a side that refuses to even talk. The biggest part for Democrats is that even as the illegal immigrant crisis has reached epic proportions Democrats refuse to even talk about how to stop it, even as their very own cities are begging for help to stop it.

Democrats dismiss McCarthy calls for Biden to deal on government shutdown

Democrats are largely dismissing calls by Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) for President Biden to cut a deal to avoid a shutdown as internal divides in the House GOP dominate attention. McCarthy has made repeated calls this week for the president to come to the bargaining table, as the party...

www.yahoo.com

Your beloved GOP cannot even agree on the rules to debate spending bills, why would anyone bother to talk with them till they fix their own internal fighting.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The Dems sent a package to the McCarthy. He won't accept it. It's on the GOP.

/----/ I send you a package that demands all of your cash and personal information. You refuse to accept it. It's all on you.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Your beloved GOP cannot even agree on the rules to debate spending bills, why would anyone bother to talk with them till they fix their own internal fighting.

/----/ "GOP cannot even agree on the rules to debate spending bills,"
TRANSLATION: The GOP won't roll over and play dead for the democRATs.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

/----/ "GOP cannot even agree on the rules to debate spending bills,"
TRANSLATION: The GOP won't roll over and play dead for the democRATs.

Nope, no translation needed. Your beloved party is so pathetic they cannot even agree among themselves the rules for talking about maybe passing a bill, for which they need zero Dem votes to do.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Nope, no translation needed. Your beloved party is so pathetic they cannot even agree among themselves the rules for talking about maybe passing a bill, for which they need zero Dem votes to do.

/----/ "Your beloved party is so pathetic they cannot even agree among themselves."
Well, so much for the "Republicans can't think for themselves and march in lockstep" rant you Libtards love to spout.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

/----/ "Your beloved party is so pathetic they cannot even agree among themselves."
Well, so much for the "Republicans can't think for themselves and march in lockstep" rant you Libtards love to spout.

Well, that was the quickest moving of the goal post in history.

Well fucking done!

 

[rightwinger]

Yep, but it is mainly on McCarthy. He failed to live up to the promise made to gain his position as Speaker. Back in January he promised Republicans to cut 2024 spending to 2022's level, then 5 months later he cuts deal with Biden keeping 2024 spending on level with 2023.

Guess what?
With only a five vote majority in the House and Democrats holding the Senate and White House, McCarthy doesn’t get to make that decision

But a small minority of MAGA Republicans are willing to cripple the country anyway