Biden campaign begins promoting candidate's religious faith

[zaangalewa]

... YOUR post was: "Why not to make a tax for every squareyard of the own house?"

My response was: We already have one of those, you Mommy's-basement-living twerp. ...

Okay - then don't do it.

 

[zaangalewa]

... and everybody needs to be paying for the debt we are incurring at this very moment ...

The USA has financial assets worldwide of about $500,000 per US-American.

And you have now in the moment about $80,000 debts (indeed 81,000) of the USA per inhabitant of the USA (and other debts as for example about $140,000 debts per single household on private reasons - and debts from the single states of the USA, debts from the communities and so on and so on ...).

So: How many debts of the nation USA has a household, who owns 250,000? 40,000 - isn't it? And someone, who owns $1,000,000 has $120,000 of this debts - isn't it? The people were profiting in different ways from this debts of the USA.

So if you let someone pay for example 50 cent tax for a Hamburger to the government of the USA ... on reason to pay back this debts ... Why do you think it is justice, that a single educating mother, who earns about $15,000 a year has to pay $1 tax for the 2 Hamburger for her and her child - while a single man who gets $150,000 a year pays 50 cent for the Hamburger he adequate would need to eat?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So if you let someone pay for example 50 cent tax for a Hamburger to the government of the USA ... on reason to pay back this debts ... Why do you think it is justice, that a single educating mother, who earns about $15,000 a year has to pay $1 tax for the 2 Hamburger for her and her child - while a single man who gets $150,000 a year pays 50 cent for the Hamburger he adequate would need to eat?

It's fair because since we all benefit from government goodies, we should all pay for them. In the US, nearly half of our population pays no income tax at all. How is it fair that half of our country pay for the other half? The top 20% of wage earners in our country pay over 80% of all collected income taxes, and it's income taxes that provide all the extras.

In my county, we have an 8 cents per dollar consumption tax. 5 cents goes to the state, and 3 cents goes to the county. Everybody here pays that tax, and we are doing just fine. We need to do the same thing on a federal level to payoff our debt.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nice that you have no child because us taxpayers it costs money. Very altruistic. If no one would have children then we could have a titanic amount of money.

I could afford children without the government, however I decided not to because of the expense. I wanted to use my money for other things. Again, if you have children while poor, you will always remain poor. You can't make more money because then you wouldn't get government benefits. So people stay under income levels to guarantee them such benefits, and with those benefits you are officially poor.

Now if you are poor and don't have any children, you can work your way out of poverty. You can save money, invest, get an education or trade, and once you are financially stable, then decide if you could afford children.

 

[zaangalewa]

So if you let someone pay for example 50 cent tax for a Hamburger to the government of the USA ... on reason to pay back this debts ... Why do you think it is justice, that a single educating mother, who earns about $15,000 a year has to pay $1 tax for the 2 Hamburger for her and her child - while a single man who gets $150,000 a year pays 50 cent for the Hamburger he adequate would need to eat?

It's fair because since we all benefit from government goodies, we should all pay for them. In the US, nearly half of our population pays no income tax at all. How is it fair that half of our country pay for the other half? The top 20% of wage earners in our country pay over 80% of all collected income taxes, and it's income taxes that provide all the extras.

In my county, we have an 8 cents per dollar consumption tax. 5 cents goes to the state, and 3 cents goes to the county. Everybody here pays that tax, and we are doing just fine. We need to do the same thing on a federal level to payoff our debt.

As far as I can see you have a system of economy which I call "socialism for the superrich" <=> Costs have to pay the tax payers. Profits have to get the superrich.

We have here in Germany by the way 7%-19% VAT.

You problem in ethics: If someone is not able to pay income tax, because he has not enough money to live - how is he able to have enough money to live and to pay VAT?

 

[zaangalewa]

Nice that you have no child because us taxpayers it costs money. Very altruistic. If no one would have children then we could have a titanic amount of money.

I could afford children without the government, however I decided not to because of the expense. I wanted to use my money for other things. Again, if you have children while poor, you will always remain poor. You can't make more money because then you wouldn't get government benefits. So people stay under income levels to guarantee them such benefits, and with those benefits you are officially poor.

Now if you are poor and don't have any children, you can work your way out of poverty. You can save money, invest, get an education or trade, and once you are financially stable, then decide if you could afford children.

That's why all Germans die out.

 

[kaz]

Too funny. I was raised Catholic, but dispensed with it over 50 years ago. Even so, he is even less Catholic than I am. ...

That you are proud to be a traitor of the Catholic faith makes no one else to a traitor of the catholic faith.

Great way to recruit people to come back, call them traitors.

I don't recruit people "to come back" - whatever this could mean. Why should I do so?

I bet that wants him to head to church this morning ...

Eh? What do you bet? To whom do you speak now? To a not existing audience?

This is just moronic shit. You insulted him calling him a traitor to the Catholic faith. I just pointed out that insulting him back to Catholicism is a terrible strategy to get him back. If it matters to you, and you said it does, convincing him there is value in going back is a lot more effective. The rest is some sort of useless crap you made up

 

[theHawk]

Too funny. I was raised Catholic, but dispensed with it over 50 years ago.

Even so, he is even less Catholic than I am.

Biden campaign begins promoting candidate's religious faith

He can’t even say the word “God”, he knows that just mentioning it will send over have his base screeching and scurrying like vampires.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

As far as I can see you have a system of economy which I call "socialism for the superrich" <=> Costs have to pay the tax payers. Profits have to get the superrich.

We have here in Germany by the way 7%-19% VAT.

You problem in ethics: If someone is not able to pay income tax, because he has not enough money to live - how is he able to have enough money to live and to pay VAT?

I'm not talking about a VAT, I'm talking about a consumption tax. A consumption tax is where you pay tax on the goods at the time of purchase, and it's listed on your receipt. a VAT is taxed at the production level, and nobody even knows they're paying it.

The problem in our country is few see the pain of massive debt. When Democrats get in, they tax the rich higher. However the rich just pass it on to us little people, but the little people don't know it unless they are educated enough to realize it.

The way things are now, the people support massive spending because they won't have to pay for it. If they did have to pay for it, the politicians would be pressured by the people to stop idiotic spending. A good example of that is the new theme of the left is free college. Free? Are the professors going to work for free? Are the utility companies going to provide power for free? Are the administrators going to work for free? Nothin is free.

However......if we had a 10 cents consumption tax, and we were told it would increase to 12 cents on the dollar with government paid college, very few people would support it. Also if we were told that the consumption tax would get smaller as the debt and spending freeze continues, they would be supporting that instead.

 

[zaangalewa]

Too funny. I was raised Catholic, but dispensed with it over 50 years ago. Even so, he is even less Catholic than I am. ...

That you are proud to be a traitor of the Catholic faith makes no one else to a traitor of the catholic faith.

Great way to recruit people to come back, call them traitors.

I don't recruit people "to come back" - whatever this could mean. Why should I do so?

I bet that wants him to head to church this morning ...

Eh? What do you bet? To whom do you speak now? To a not existing audience?

This is just moronic shit. You insulted him calling him a traitor to the Catholic faith.

The words I used were "you are proud to be a traitor of the Catholic faith"

I just pointed out that insulting him back to Catholicism is a terrible strategy to get him back.

Back?

If it matters to you, and you said it does, convincing him there is value in going back is a lot more effective. The rest is some sort of useless crap you made up

?

 

[zaangalewa]

As far as I can see you have a system of economy which I call "socialism for the superrich" <=> Costs have to pay the tax payers. Profits have to get the superrich.

We have here in Germany by the way 7%-19% VAT.

You problem in ethics: If someone is not able to pay income tax, because he has not enough money to live - how is he able to have enough money to live and to pay VAT?

I'm not talking about a VAT, I'm talking about a consumption tax. A consumption tax is where you pay tax on the goods at the time of purchase, and it's listed on your receipt. a VAT is taxed at the production level, and nobody even knows they're paying it. ...

That's wrong. Your consumption tax and our VAT are exactly the same.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's wrong. Your consumption tax and our VAT are exactly the same.

I have no idea what your VAT is there, but over here, it's assessed to the manufacturer, not the consumer.

 

[zaangalewa]

That's wrong. Your consumption tax and our VAT are exactly the same.

I have no idea what your VAT is there, but over here, it's assessed to the manufacturer, not the consumer.

What's wrong: VAT pays the consumer.

 

[kaz]

Too funny. I was raised Catholic, but dispensed with it over 50 years ago. Even so, he is even less Catholic than I am. ...

That you are proud to be a traitor of the Catholic faith makes no one else to a traitor of the catholic faith.

Great way to recruit people to come back, call them traitors.

I don't recruit people "to come back" - whatever this could mean. Why should I do so?

I bet that wants him to head to church this morning ...

Eh? What do you bet? To whom do you speak now? To a not existing audience?

This is just moronic shit. You insulted him calling him a traitor to the Catholic faith.

The words I used were "you are proud to be a traitor of the Catholic faith"

I just pointed out that insulting him back to Catholicism is a terrible strategy to get him back.

Back?

If it matters to you, and you said it does, convincing him there is value in going back is a lot more effective. The rest is some sort of useless crap you made up

?

OK, so let's see if you can process this.

If he was a Catholic, now he's not, then if he returns to Catholicism, he'd be going "back." See how that works? How stupid are you?

Democrats are just the dumbest people, it's incredible you can feed yourselves

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What's wrong: VAT pays the consumer.

I have no idea what that even means. VAT doesn't pay anybody. VAT is a hidden tax on the manufacturer that gets passed down to the consumer.

 

[zaangalewa]

What's wrong: VAT pays the consumer.

I have no idea what that even means. VAT doesn't pay anybody. VAT is a hidden tax on the manufacturer that gets passed down to the consumer.

The VAT is not hidden. It is exactly written on every bill. Only the consumer pays VAT - no one else. If you buy something in Germany and you take it with you outside of Germany then the VAT is like a tariff. You are able to get back the money which you payed for VAT at the border - and you have to pay instead the tariffs of the country, in which country you travel with this goods, when you will arrive there.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What's wrong: VAT pays the consumer.

I have no idea what that even means. VAT doesn't pay anybody. VAT is a hidden tax on the manufacturer that gets passed down to the consumer.

The VAT is not hidden. It is exactly written on every bill. Only the consumer pays VAT - no one else. If you buy something in Germany and you take it with you outside of Germany then the VAT is like a tariff. You are able to get back the money which you payed for VAT at the border - and you have to pay instead the tariffs of the country, in which country you travel with this goods, when you will arrive there.

value-added tax
noun
an excise tax based on the value added to a product at each stage of production or distribution: value added is arrived at by subtracting from the total value of the product at the end of each production or distibution stage the value of the goods bought at its inception. Abbreviation: VAT

VALUE-ADDED TAX Definition & Usage Examples | Dictionary.com

Value-added tax definition: an excise tax based on the value added to a product at each stage of production or distribution: value added is arrived at by subtracting from the total value of the product at the end of each production or distibution stage the value of the goods bought at its...

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You are confusing a VAT with a consumption tax.

consumption tax

noun
a tax, as a sales tax, levied on consumer goods or services at the time of sale.

CONSUMPTION TAX Definition & Usage Examples | Dictionary.com

Consumption tax definition: . See examples of CONSUMPTION TAX used in a sentence.

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[zaangalewa]

What's wrong: VAT pays the consumer.

I have no idea what that even means. VAT doesn't pay anybody. VAT is a hidden tax on the manufacturer that gets passed down to the consumer.

The VAT is not hidden. It is exactly written on every bill. Only the consumer pays VAT - no one else. If you buy something in Germany and you take it with you outside of Germany then the VAT is like a tariff. You are able to get back the money which you payed for VAT at the border - and you have to pay instead the tariffs of the country, in which country you travel with this goods, when you will arrive there.

value-added tax
noun
an excise tax based on the value added to a product at each stage of production or distribution: value added is arrived at by subtracting from the total value of the product at the end of each production or distibution stage the value of the goods bought at its inception. Abbreviation: VAT

VALUE-ADDED TAX Definition & Usage Examples | Dictionary.com

Value-added tax definition: an excise tax based on the value added to a product at each stage of production or distribution: value added is arrived at by subtracting from the total value of the product at the end of each production or distibution stage the value of the goods bought at its...

www.dictionary.com

You are confusing a VAT with a consumption tax.

consumption tax

noun
a tax, as a sales tax, levied on consumer goods or services at the time of sale.

CONSUMPTION TAX Definition & Usage Examples | Dictionary.com

Consumption tax definition: . See examples of CONSUMPTION TAX used in a sentence.

www.dictionary.com

I don't know why US-Americans get loud and start to do a senseless war of words when they are wrong. What did you not understand from this what I said to you?

 

[zaangalewa]

Too funny. I was raised Catholic, but dispensed with it over 50 years ago. Even so, he is even less Catholic than I am. ...

That you are proud to be a traitor of the Catholic faith makes no one else to a traitor of the catholic faith.

Great way to recruit people to come back, call them traitors.

I don't recruit people "to come back" - whatever this could mean. Why should I do so?

I bet that wants him to head to church this morning ...

Eh? What do you bet? To whom do you speak now? To a not existing audience?

This is just moronic shit. You insulted him calling him a traitor to the Catholic faith.

The words I used were "you are proud to be a traitor of the Catholic faith"

I just pointed out that insulting him back to Catholicism is a terrible strategy to get him back.

Back?

If it matters to you, and you said it does, convincing him there is value in going back is a lot more effective. The rest is some sort of useless crap you made up

?

OK, so let's see if you can process this.

If he was a Catholic, now he's not,

That's impossible. Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.

then if he returns to Catholicism, he'd be going "back." See how that works? How stupid are you?

Democrats are just the dumbest people, it's incredible you can feed yourselves

I have absolutelly nothing to do with the political party "the democrats" of the USA - nor with the political party "the republicans" of the USA - nevertheless I'm as well a republican and a democrat.

 

[Norman]

They start promoting Lucifer worship?