Best thing about a Sanders victory, nobody will ever have to work again

[CrusaderFrank]

Right, about as smart as the belief that our social programs would end poverty instead of increase it.

"Folks, liberals measure success by intent while the rest of us measure success by results."
Rush Limbaugh

quoting that hypocritical drug addict?

what are you? In your 20's?

Right, I'm just quoting somebody you can't dispute. Speaking of hypocritical drug addict, how is DumBama doing these days????

You mean President Choom?

 

[Dot Com]

What an idiotic thread.

You conservative twits piss & moan about nearly half the country paying no income taxes and then bemoan the fact that Sanders' economic plan is to have millions of workers making $15/hr and henceforth qualifying to PAY INCOME TAXES. Those higher wages would mean the conservative morons on here would be getting a tax break from having to subsidize millions of workers who work for multi-billion dollar corporations that can afford to pay their employees enough so they don't need Food Stamps and other welfare.

Bernie Sanders' economic vision actually benefits working class conservatives in a tangible way.

The willful stupidity on this thread is astounding.

^ that

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What an idiotic thread.

You conservative twits piss & moan about nearly half the country paying no income taxes and then bemoan the fact that Sanders' economic plan is to have millions of workers making $15/hr and henceforth qualifying to PAY INCOME TAXES. Those higher wages would mean the conservative morons on here would be getting a tax break from having to subsidize millions of workers who work for multi-billion dollar corporations that can afford to pay their employees enough so they don't need Food Stamps and other welfare.

Bernie Sanders' economic vision actually benefits working class conservatives in a tangible way.

The willful stupidity on this thread is astounding.

I'm.going back to college for a degree in archaeology and guess what --- you're gonna pay for it!!!

Sweeeeeet

Plain ******* Sweeeeeeeet

 

[eagle1462010]

What an idiotic thread.

You conservative twits piss & moan about nearly half the country paying no income taxes and then bemoan the fact that Sanders' economic plan is to have millions of workers making $15/hr and henceforth qualifying to PAY INCOME TAXES. Those higher wages would mean the conservative morons on here would be getting a tax break from having to subsidize millions of workers who work for multi-billion dollar corporations that can afford to pay their employees enough so they don't need Food Stamps and other welfare.

Bernie Sanders' economic vision actually benefits working class conservatives in a tangible way.

The willful stupidity on this thread is astounding.

^ that

 

[eagle1462010]

What an idiotic thread.

You conservative twits piss & moan about nearly half the country paying no income taxes and then bemoan the fact that Sanders' economic plan is to have millions of workers making $15/hr and henceforth qualifying to PAY INCOME TAXES. Those higher wages would mean the conservative morons on here would be getting a tax break from having to subsidize millions of workers who work for multi-billion dollar corporations that can afford to pay their employees enough so they don't need Food Stamps and other welfare.

Bernie Sanders' economic vision actually benefits working class conservatives in a tangible way.

The willful stupidity on this thread is astounding.

I'm.going back to college for a degree in archaeology and guess what --- you're gonna pay for it!!!

Sweeeeeet

Plain ******* Sweeeeeeeet

I'm going back for Underwater basket weaving.....................nice Olympic sized pool.............do they allow cook outs and kegs there.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Right, about as smart as the belief that our social programs would end poverty instead of increase it.

"Folks, liberals measure success by intent while the rest of us measure success by results."
Rush Limbaugh

What do social programs have anything to do with educating people?

You re educating people, so that they can learn to do a better job, on whatever they are about to do, which will improve their productivity, which will improve the output of this country, which will increase the income for everybody, which will flow into the same economy, which will benefit you too at the end one way or another.

It is simple, not sure why you are having hard time to understand this is not something against your interests...
And he says he will not be taking the money for this investment from you, but the rich...

Unless of course, if you are rich, which I highly doubt...

Correct, I am far from rich. But I'm much closer to experience.

There is a philosophy that liberals hate. It's called Action/ Reaction.

Let's say we decide to meet in person at a bar. When we meet, I reach out to shake your hand. In return, you reach out to shake mine. That is Action/ Reaction. I made a positive action and the result (in most cases) is a positive reaction.

Same deal, except when we meet, I shove you against the wall. You're most likely reaction is to shove me right back, and thereafter a fight may pursue. This too is Action/ Reaction. I put forth a negative action and received a negative reaction.

When you take money from anybody, they are met with a negative action and of course, more than likely that will result in a negative reaction.

Yea unions. Unions mean a person can do a monkey job and get superior wages and benefits for doing that job. Worked great until employers moved out of the country or replaced us with automation.

More taxation, more regulations, more environmental and safety rules. That will teach those evil rich guys! The result was less pay increases, increase in prices of our products we buy at the store, and of course, leaving the US for lower cost labor and business.

Oh they will run away ha
Where tho?

You gotta understand what "USA" represents, FREEdom is not FREE, for nobody, including the rich!!!

What about the freedom from paying for other people instead of them paying for themselves?

Every time we discuss a funding or financial issue, liberals always say TAX THE RICH! Well, we have been taxing the rich, and what do we have to show for it?

Yes, businesses do move because of expenses. Rich people move because of taxation. In fact, we now have record amounts of Americans renouncing their citizenship just to get away from all the taxes. Those are Americans who work in other countries and get taxed here for making that income.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents.
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

You still don't realize what "USA" represents...


"Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'"
-Matthew 19:23-24

Oh geez, the left using biblical quotes again.

During the time of Jesus, the few who had wealth separated themselves from God. They became materialistic and created their own versions of heaven on this earth.

Jesus didn't have anything against people who had money, his concern was that they became more atheist because of it, just like many liberals today.

If when you die and you approach the gates of heaven, St. Peter will not check your savings account balance before he opens the gates.

 

[initforme]

There is this little bible quote about a rich man and an eye of a needle and getting into heaven. Now, how does that read again.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What an idiotic thread.

You conservative twits piss & moan about nearly half the country paying no income taxes and then bemoan the fact that Sanders' economic plan is to have millions of workers making $15/hr and henceforth qualifying to PAY INCOME TAXES. Those higher wages would mean the conservative morons on here would be getting a tax break from having to subsidize millions of workers who work for multi-billion dollar corporations that can afford to pay their employees enough so they don't need Food Stamps and other welfare.

Bernie Sanders' economic vision actually benefits working class conservatives in a tangible way.

The willful stupidity on this thread is astounding.

Just a question....

Who is going to bankroll all those jobs?

It is a good idea though, we should all vote for Bernie break the bank and the younger crowd would vote for conservatives for a hundred years

 

[bripat9643]

Saggy got busted for not knowing shit about Sander's platform now he's deflecting. 'twas ever thus w/ his type

Whatever.. get over yourself kid. Ain't gonna be no Bernie happening. Like I said, he;'s a Socialist, that automatically excludes him from consideration in my book, just as it were if he was a Communist.

You forget. Barack Obama was a BLACK, MUSLIM, MARXIST and got elected lol.

Remember how all the nuts on RW talk radio used to call him Barack HUSSEIN Obama thinking if they said it enough he'd lose the election?

No, not really.. but I'll take your word for it.

Bernie Sanders is not going to be president. Anyway, isn't his name Barack Hussein Obama?

While Sanders may never be President, it's frightening to see how much support by voters he has; truly a decay of our country.

yeah, people getting sick of a rigged-system = decay Put down the Randian kool aid

Voting for socialism and organized looting is decay. That's what ended the Roman Empire.

 

[initforme]

We are headed for a full blown plutocracy. Hard to distinguish our country from a true plutocracy.

 

[Billy000]

Whatever.. get over yourself kid. Ain't gonna be no Bernie happening. Like I said, he;'s a Socialist, that automatically excludes him from consideration in my book, just as it were if he was a Communist.

You forget. Barack Obama was a BLACK, MUSLIM, MARXIST and got elected lol.

Remember how all the nuts on RW talk radio used to call him Barack HUSSEIN Obama thinking if they said it enough he'd lose the election?

No, not really.. but I'll take your word for it.

Bernie Sanders is not going to be president. Anyway, isn't his name Barack Hussein Obama?

While Sanders may never be President, it's frightening to see how much support by voters he has; truly a decay of our country.

yeah, people getting sick of a rigged-system = decay Put down the Randian kool aid

Voting for socialism and organized looting is decay. That's what ended the Roman Empire.

Hey bripatty, how about you define the word socialism in your own words? I want an objective defintion. None of your biased bullshit flavoring in the definition. I want a real definition. Remember, YOUR OWN WORDS.

You can't do it and you know it.

 

[eagle1462010]

You forget. Barack Obama was a BLACK, MUSLIM, MARXIST and got elected lol.

Remember how all the nuts on RW talk radio used to call him Barack HUSSEIN Obama thinking if they said it enough he'd lose the election?

No, not really.. but I'll take your word for it.

Bernie Sanders is not going to be president. Anyway, isn't his name Barack Hussein Obama?

While Sanders may never be President, it's frightening to see how much support by voters he has; truly a decay of our country.

yeah, people getting sick of a rigged-system = decay Put down the Randian kool aid

Voting for socialism and organized looting is decay. That's what ended the Roman Empire.

Hey bripatty, how about you define the word socialism in your own words? I want an objective defintion. None of your biased bullshit flavoring in the definition. I want a real definition. Remember, YOUR OWN WORDS.

You can't do it and you know it.

Give me back my wallet you Socialist *****...........

There ya go.

 

[Papageorgio]

So you are actually contending that socialism doesn't take money from those who earned it?

Do Wall Street CEOs earn it?

Of course they do. Everything they have has been acquired as a result of totally voluntary exchanges. That's what it means to "earn" something. Government parasites, on the other hand, have earned nothing.

Uh huh. Like that time I voluntarily let them gamble my 401k money and they lost 1/3 of it? They don't "earn" a ******* thing. Tell me what they've actually produced with their transactions.

And if you kept in the 401k, you would be so far ahead. Do you give credit for that or did you knee jerk and pulled the 401k out?


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No, I kept it in and I'm a little ahead - at least until these stupid mutherfuckers crash the economy again.

So you are ahead. Then quit bitchin, do you honestly think all stocks just rise. They have gained and fallen thousands of times. Learn about where your money is and invest accordingly. It's your money, you might want to be responsible for it.

 

[Papageorgio]

Based on success, you mean like an academic scholarship?

Did you know that 2/3 of the kids who "Graduate" NYC high school require remedial help in English and math? Is that the group you want in college?

Indeed I do. They need education more than anybody else, don't you agree???

How is turning 18 and not being able to read "success"?


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So only certain individuals will get to go to college, so it won't be for all? You only want the "right" people. Interesting.


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You can debate who got to go, or not to go all day

But what you can't debate is: Educated societies do much better economically, than the less educated ones.


This is a fact you can rely on. America has been a superpower and maintained that position for so long, because it was thriving in a golden age of knowledge, inventing from left and right.

A 60 year old fart rich ass billionaire or his sex addicted spoiled kid is not going to give you any of that.

It is the diamonds hidden inside the heads of those individuals among us, who will bring us the success, if we could mine it properly. Thats all its about, a numbers game.......

very true, and dumbing down the educational standards and replacing real curriculum with studies in political correctness make those diamonds almost impossible to find.

BTW, do you know how much college Bill Gates and Steve Jobs had?

They got enough of it obviously. That means they had a very good elementary/high school background. We know for a fact that a children can learn much more efficiently when they were young, than they were at older ages.

Thats why making colleges tuition free is a great idea, because that way you remove the high school from being a dead end for a lot of children, and hope for a better life will hopefully bring hard working and at the end success.

At least, thats what seems to be the plan here... Which sounds, smart imo....

Again how do you decide not being able to read at 18 as a success?


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Success or hard working has nothing to do with if a kid can read or not.

Einstein was having all sorts of learning problems, just FYI...

So how do you determine who is a success or not?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Right, about as smart as the belief that our social programs would end poverty instead of increase it.

"Folks, liberals measure success by intent while the rest of us measure success by results."
Rush Limbaugh

What do social programs have anything to do with educating people?

You re educating people, so that they can learn to do a better job, on whatever they are about to do, which will improve their productivity, which will improve the output of this country, which will increase the income for everybody, which will flow into the same economy, which will benefit you too at the end one way or another.

It is simple, not sure why you are having hard time to understand this is not something against your interests...
And he says he will not be taking the money for this investment from you, but the rich...

Unless of course, if you are rich, which I highly doubt...

Correct, I am far from rich. But I'm much closer to experience.

There is a philosophy that liberals hate. It's called Action/ Reaction.

Let's say we decide to meet in person at a bar. When we meet, I reach out to shake your hand. In return, you reach out to shake mine. That is Action/ Reaction. I made a positive action and the result (in most cases) is a positive reaction.

Same deal, except when we meet, I shove you against the wall. You're most likely reaction is to shove me right back, and thereafter a fight may pursue. This too is Action/ Reaction. I put forth a negative action and received a negative reaction.

When you take money from anybody, they are met with a negative action and of course, more than likely that will result in a negative reaction.

Yea unions. Unions mean a person can do a monkey job and get superior wages and benefits for doing that job. Worked great until employers moved out of the country or replaced us with automation.

More taxation, more regulations, more environmental and safety rules. That will teach those evil rich guys! The result was less pay increases, increase in prices of our products we buy at the store, and of course, leaving the US for lower cost labor and business.

Oh they will run away ha
Where tho?

You gotta understand what "USA" represents, FREEdom is not FREE, for nobody, including the rich!!!

What about the freedom from paying for other people instead of them paying for themselves?

Every time we discuss a funding or financial issue, liberals always say TAX THE RICH! Well, we have been taxing the rich, and what do we have to show for it?

Yes, businesses do move because of expenses. Rich people move because of taxation. In fact, we now have record amounts of Americans renouncing their citizenship just to get away from all the taxes. Those are Americans who work in other countries and get taxed here for making that income.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents.
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

You still don't realize what "USA" represents...


"Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'"
-Matthew 19:23-24

It's even harder for a Progressive to understand Scripture

 

[Dot Com]

What do social programs have anything to do with educating people?

You re educating people, so that they can learn to do a better job, on whatever they are about to do, which will improve their productivity, which will improve the output of this country, which will increase the income for everybody, which will flow into the same economy, which will benefit you too at the end one way or another.

It is simple, not sure why you are having hard time to understand this is not something against your interests...
And he says he will not be taking the money for this investment from you, but the rich...

Unless of course, if you are rich, which I highly doubt...

Correct, I am far from rich. But I'm much closer to experience.

There is a philosophy that liberals hate. It's called Action/ Reaction.

Let's say we decide to meet in person at a bar. When we meet, I reach out to shake your hand. In return, you reach out to shake mine. That is Action/ Reaction. I made a positive action and the result (in most cases) is a positive reaction.

Same deal, except when we meet, I shove you against the wall. You're most likely reaction is to shove me right back, and thereafter a fight may pursue. This too is Action/ Reaction. I put forth a negative action and received a negative reaction.

When you take money from anybody, they are met with a negative action and of course, more than likely that will result in a negative reaction.

Yea unions. Unions mean a person can do a monkey job and get superior wages and benefits for doing that job. Worked great until employers moved out of the country or replaced us with automation.

More taxation, more regulations, more environmental and safety rules. That will teach those evil rich guys! The result was less pay increases, increase in prices of our products we buy at the store, and of course, leaving the US for lower cost labor and business.

Oh they will run away ha
Where tho?

You gotta understand what "USA" represents, FREEdom is not FREE, for nobody, including the rich!!!

What about the freedom from paying for other people instead of them paying for themselves?

Every time we discuss a funding or financial issue, liberals always say TAX THE RICH! Well, we have been taxing the rich, and what do we have to show for it?

Yes, businesses do move because of expenses. Rich people move because of taxation. In fact, we now have record amounts of Americans renouncing their citizenship just to get away from all the taxes. Those are Americans who work in other countries and get taxed here for making that income.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents.
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

You still don't realize what "USA" represents...


"Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'"
-Matthew 19:23-24

It's even harder for a Progressive to understand Scripture

hey CrusaderFrank !!! a little off-topic but, why don't you put the greatest foreign policy disaster in a generation in your siggie- the optional/voluntary, unpaid-for war in Iraq?

 

[rightwinger]

You forget. Barack Obama was a BLACK, MUSLIM, MARXIST and got elected lol.

Remember how all the nuts on RW talk radio used to call him Barack HUSSEIN Obama thinking if they said it enough he'd lose the election?

No, not really.. but I'll take your word for it.

Bernie Sanders is not going to be president. Anyway, isn't his name Barack Hussein Obama?

While Sanders may never be President, it's frightening to see how much support by voters he has; truly a decay of our country.

yeah, people getting sick of a rigged-system = decay Put down the Randian kool aid

Voting for socialism and organized looting is decay. That's what ended the Roman Empire.

Hey bripatty, how about you define the word socialism in your own words? I want an objective defintion. None of your biased bullshit flavoring in the definition. I want a real definition. Remember, YOUR OWN WORDS.

You can't do it and you know it.

Easy....finger boy thinks anything the government does to help the people is socialism

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Correct, I am far from rich. But I'm much closer to experience.

There is a philosophy that liberals hate. It's called Action/ Reaction.

Let's say we decide to meet in person at a bar. When we meet, I reach out to shake your hand. In return, you reach out to shake mine. That is Action/ Reaction. I made a positive action and the result (in most cases) is a positive reaction.

Same deal, except when we meet, I shove you against the wall. You're most likely reaction is to shove me right back, and thereafter a fight may pursue. This too is Action/ Reaction. I put forth a negative action and received a negative reaction.

When you take money from anybody, they are met with a negative action and of course, more than likely that will result in a negative reaction.

Yea unions. Unions mean a person can do a monkey job and get superior wages and benefits for doing that job. Worked great until employers moved out of the country or replaced us with automation.

More taxation, more regulations, more environmental and safety rules. That will teach those evil rich guys! The result was less pay increases, increase in prices of our products we buy at the store, and of course, leaving the US for lower cost labor and business.

Oh they will run away ha
Where tho?

You gotta understand what "USA" represents, FREEdom is not FREE, for nobody, including the rich!!!

What about the freedom from paying for other people instead of them paying for themselves?

Every time we discuss a funding or financial issue, liberals always say TAX THE RICH! Well, we have been taxing the rich, and what do we have to show for it?

Yes, businesses do move because of expenses. Rich people move because of taxation. In fact, we now have record amounts of Americans renouncing their citizenship just to get away from all the taxes. Those are Americans who work in other countries and get taxed here for making that income.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents.
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

You still don't realize what "USA" represents...


"Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'"
-Matthew 19:23-24

It's even harder for a Progressive to understand Scripture

hey CrusaderFrank !!! a little off-topic but, why don't you put the greatest foreign policy disaster in a generation in your siggie- the optional/voluntary, unpaid-for war in Iraq?

Greatest foreign policy disaster is Obama's switching sides in the Middle East to support Jihad. His Jihadists brothers control more real estate than ever, from Aleppo to Baghdad. Thank God Putin decided to drive them back

 

[Redfish]

We should do with college whatever the nations do that are beating us academically.

you mean like requiring students to pass tests and complete the curriculum before getting a degree?

is there anyone who doesn't agree with that?

most liberals, the teachers union, Obama, Clinton, those who favor social promotion, those who favor participation trophies, those who want to do away with grades, those who don't want validictorians, those who don't want to hurt kids feelings by giving them failing grades, those who graduate students who cannot read or do simple math.

 

[Redfish]

Investing in the functional illiterates that "graduate" our high schools is a great idea.

Fanfuckingtastic.

Let the colleges determine who deserves a merit scholarship, shall we? The cost of tuition is already too high before the Mo' 'n Better Free Stuff brigade nationalizes it

"Tuition Free" doesnt mean anybody can just walk into a college and demand the professors teach him anything and everything.

It means, the college education will be based on success, rather than money. Success and hard work will be rewarded, not momies and dadies college fund. So we get a much more efficient education system where we end up with the right people, with the right education so they can move us forward...

Based on success, you mean like an academic scholarship?

Did you know that 2/3 of the kids who "Graduate" NYC high school require remedial help in English and math? Is that the group you want in college?

Indeed I do. They need education more than anybody else, don't you agree???

How is turning 18 and not being able to read "success"?


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Investing in the functional illiterates that "graduate" our high schools is a great idea.

Fanfuckingtastic.

Let the colleges determine who deserves a merit scholarship, shall we? The cost of tuition is already too high before the Mo' 'n Better Free Stuff brigade nationalizes it

"Tuition Free" doesnt mean anybody can just walk into a college and demand the professors teach him anything and everything.

It means, the college education will be based on success, rather than money. Success and hard work will be rewarded, not momies and dadies college fund. So we get a much more efficient education system where we end up with the right people, with the right education so they can move us forward...

So only certain individuals will get to go to college, so it won't be for all? You only want the "right" people. Interesting.


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You can debate who got to go, or not to go all day

But what you can't debate is: Educated societies do much better economically, than the less educated ones.


This is a fact you can rely on. America has been a superpower and maintained that position for so long, because it was thriving in a golden age of knowledge, inventing from left and right.

A 60 year old fart rich ass billionaire or his sex addicted spoiled kid is not going to give you any of that.

It is the diamonds hidden inside the heads of those individuals among us, who will bring us the success, if we could mine it properly. Thats all its about, a numbers game.......

very true, and dumbing down the educational standards and replacing real curriculum with studies in political correctness make those diamonds almost impossible to find.

BTW, do you know how much college Bill Gates and Steve Jobs had?

They got enough of it obviously. That means they had a very good elementary/high school background. We know for a fact that a children can learn much more efficiently when they were young, than they were at older ages.

Thats why making colleges tuition free is a great idea, because that way you remove the high school from being a dead end for a lot of children, and hope for a better life will hopefully bring hard working and at the end success.

At least, thats what seems to be the plan here... Which sounds, smart imo....

Who is going to pay for the FREE colleges? Who gets to go to them? Do we discriminate and only give free college to the kids with the highest grades? or does everyone get to go regardless of grades?

OR, are you suggesting that college profs work for free and that the utility bills and other expenses just magically get paid?