'Been There, Seen That, Done That, Don't Want Any Part Of That' - Cuban Immigrant Warns Americans

Democrats prove they have not learned from history and the failure of those who have gone down this road before.


Hence my thread:
 
How can Trumpsters, supposedly adults, not even fucking know what communism is?
Because they do and you do NOT.

The flaw in every argument put forth by apologists for communism is the insane hubris of thinking that ONLY they know what it is.

You are not better informed on the subject.
Great. Then list out Democrat officials who are advocating for communism.

I'm sure this will be easy, and that the list will be long.

:popcorn:
I never said they were. Bernie Sanders and AOC do however
Great. Show me where Sanders and AOC advocate for government taking over all production and distribution, and for the elimination of private property.

Because THAT'S what communism ACTUALLY is.

You claim to know more about this than me. I'm sure this will be easy. Knock it out of the park.
When's the last time you actually watched or heard an interview with Bernie Sanders?
Many times. He's not a communist.

You guys have clearly established here that you don't know what actual communism is. Which is strange to me, since there is no shortage of information available to you on the topic. Maybe getting out of your ideological bubble now and then would be a good idea. Get some fresh air.

If Bernie and AOC are the best you can do, all you're doing is spraying your ignorance on us.
Bernie wants all utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
See the corporations leaving the US in droves.
That's not communism.

Why can't you guys just take a few minutes and educate yourself on words you use?
what is nationalist ownership then? especially utilities and healthcare
 
Most people who has lived in a communist/socialist system have little desire to repeat the experience. Here is a woman that lived through a socialist push to maintain power by pitting its citizens against one another. Sounds very much like what is happening in the US today:




If you are unable to watch the whole thing you can start the video at 2 minutes 28 seconds and let it play for 2 minutes. PSA - After those 2 minutes the information starts to get very worrying and I recommend that people of a sensitive nature do not watch what follows.



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Living in Miami, I have talked to a lot of Cuban refugees. they all tell horror stories about communism/socialism. Back in the 60's, in grade school, the refugee kids were integrated into the class room they al had the same horror stories, How can you deny that communism is a bad thing, and when they say we are on the same road that is very worrisome and believable


Growing up in Florida I have to say that Cubans made Miami a more vibrant city. In the 70s the city was dying and Cubans contributed enormously starting businesses, creating jobs and revitalizing a number of neighborhoods in and around Miami. The families I knew weren't looking for welfare, but rather freedom and the opportunity to work.

Great music, good food and anti-communist. Thank God for Cubans.

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God I love a good cup of Cuban coffee and a Cuban Sandwich
 
How can Trumpsters, supposedly adults, not even fucking know what communism is?
Because they do and you do NOT.

The flaw in every argument put forth by apologists for communism is the insane hubris of thinking that ONLY they know what it is.

You are not better informed on the subject.
Great. Then list out Democrat officials who are advocating for communism.

I'm sure this will be easy, and that the list will be long.

:popcorn:
I never said they were. Bernie Sanders and AOC do however
Great. Show me where Sanders and AOC advocate for government taking over all production and distribution, and for the elimination of private property.

Because THAT'S what communism ACTUALLY is.

You claim to know more about this than me. I'm sure this will be easy. Knock it out of the park.
When's the last time you actually watched or heard an interview with Bernie Sanders?
Many times. He's not a communist.

You guys have clearly established here that you don't know what actual communism is. Which is strange to me, since there is no shortage of information available to you on the topic. Maybe getting out of your ideological bubble now and then would be a good idea. Get some fresh air.

If Bernie and AOC are the best you can do, all you're doing is spraying your ignorance on us.
Bernie wants all utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
See the corporations leaving the US in droves.
That's not communism.

Why can't you guys just take a few minutes and educate yourself on words you use?
what is nationalist ownership then? especially utilities and healthcare
Everything. Period. All major industry. That's communism.
 
How can Trumpsters, supposedly adults, not even fucking know what communism is?
Because they do and you do NOT.

The flaw in every argument put forth by apologists for communism is the insane hubris of thinking that ONLY they know what it is.

You are not better informed on the subject.
Great. Then list out Democrat officials who are advocating for communism.

I'm sure this will be easy, and that the list will be long.

:popcorn:
I never said they were. Bernie Sanders and AOC do however
Great. Show me where Sanders and AOC advocate for government taking over all production and distribution, and for the elimination of private property.

Because THAT'S what communism ACTUALLY is.

You claim to know more about this than me. I'm sure this will be easy. Knock it out of the park.
When's the last time you actually watched or heard an interview with Bernie Sanders?
Many times. He's not a communist.

You guys have clearly established here that you don't know what actual communism is. Which is strange to me, since there is no shortage of information available to you on the topic. Maybe getting out of your ideological bubble now and then would be a good idea. Get some fresh air.

If Bernie and AOC are the best you can do, all you're doing is spraying your ignorance on us.
Bernie wants all utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
See the corporations leaving the US in droves.
That's not communism.

Why can't you guys just take a few minutes and educate yourself on words you use?
what is nationalist ownership then? especially utilities and healthcare
Everything. Period. All major industry. That's communism.l utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
And Nationalization of the all utilities, healthcare and education. is what Communism lite?
 
How can Trumpsters, supposedly adults, not even fucking know what communism is?
Because they do and you do NOT.

The flaw in every argument put forth by apologists for communism is the insane hubris of thinking that ONLY they know what it is.

You are not better informed on the subject.
Great. Then list out Democrat officials who are advocating for communism.

I'm sure this will be easy, and that the list will be long.

:popcorn:
I never said they were. Bernie Sanders and AOC do however
Great. Show me where Sanders and AOC advocate for government taking over all production and distribution, and for the elimination of private property.

Because THAT'S what communism ACTUALLY is.

You claim to know more about this than me. I'm sure this will be easy. Knock it out of the park.
When's the last time you actually watched or heard an interview with Bernie Sanders?
Many times. He's not a communist.

You guys have clearly established here that you don't know what actual communism is. Which is strange to me, since there is no shortage of information available to you on the topic. Maybe getting out of your ideological bubble now and then would be a good idea. Get some fresh air.

If Bernie and AOC are the best you can do, all you're doing is spraying your ignorance on us.
Bernie wants all utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
See the corporations leaving the US in droves.
That's not communism.

Why can't you guys just take a few minutes and educate yourself on words you use?
what is nationalist ownership then? especially utilities and healthcare
Everything. Period. All major industry. That's communism.l utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
And Nationalization of the all utilities, healthcare and education. is what Communism lite?
Call it what you want.

But if you're going to call people "commies", it's probably smarter to know what communism actually is. Because it looks pretty silly being that wrong.

Or don't. Whichever.
 
How can Trumpsters, supposedly adults, not even fucking know what communism is?
Because they do and you do NOT.

The flaw in every argument put forth by apologists for communism is the insane hubris of thinking that ONLY they know what it is.

You are not better informed on the subject.
Great. Then list out Democrat officials who are advocating for communism.

I'm sure this will be easy, and that the list will be long.

:popcorn:
I never said they were. Bernie Sanders and AOC do however
Great. Show me where Sanders and AOC advocate for government taking over all production and distribution, and for the elimination of private property.

Because THAT'S what communism ACTUALLY is.

You claim to know more about this than me. I'm sure this will be easy. Knock it out of the park.
When's the last time you actually watched or heard an interview with Bernie Sanders?
Many times. He's not a communist.

You guys have clearly established here that you don't know what actual communism is. Which is strange to me, since there is no shortage of information available to you on the topic. Maybe getting out of your ideological bubble now and then would be a good idea. Get some fresh air.

If Bernie and AOC are the best you can do, all you're doing is spraying your ignorance on us.
Bernie wants all utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
See the corporations leaving the US in droves.
That's not communism.

Why can't you guys just take a few minutes and educate yourself on words you use?
what is nationalist ownership then? especially utilities and healthcare
Everything. Period. All major industry. That's communism.l utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
And Nationalization of the all utilities, healthcare and education. is what Communism lite?
Call it what you want.

But if you're going to call people "commies", it's probably smarter to know what communism actually is. Because it looks pretty silly being that wrong.

Or don't. Whichever.
Not wrong when you want to government to run things instead of free enterprise.
Free enterprise can run things better than any government control business and that is a proven fact.
 
Call it what you want.

But if you're going to call people "commies", it's probably smarter to know what communism actually is. Because it looks pretty silly being that wrong.

Or don't. Whichever.
it ain't capitalism, so identify it for us, that's our main issue today, you're inconsistent.
 
How can Trumpsters, supposedly adults, not even fucking know what communism is?
Because they do and you do NOT.

The flaw in every argument put forth by apologists for communism is the insane hubris of thinking that ONLY they know what it is.

You are not better informed on the subject.
Great. Then list out Democrat officials who are advocating for communism.

I'm sure this will be easy, and that the list will be long.

:popcorn:
I never said they were. Bernie Sanders and AOC do however
Great. Show me where Sanders and AOC advocate for government taking over all production and distribution, and for the elimination of private property.

Because THAT'S what communism ACTUALLY is.

You claim to know more about this than me. I'm sure this will be easy. Knock it out of the park.
When's the last time you actually watched or heard an interview with Bernie Sanders?
Many times. He's not a communist.

You guys have clearly established here that you don't know what actual communism is. Which is strange to me, since there is no shortage of information available to you on the topic. Maybe getting out of your ideological bubble now and then would be a good idea. Get some fresh air.

If Bernie and AOC are the best you can do, all you're doing is spraying your ignorance on us.
Bernie wants all utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
See the corporations leaving the US in droves.
That's not communism.

Why can't you guys just take a few minutes and educate yourself on words you use?
what is nationalist ownership then? especially utilities and healthcare
Everything. Period. All major industry. That's communism.l utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
And Nationalization of the all utilities, healthcare and education. is what Communism lite?
Call it what you want.

But if you're going to call people "commies", it's probably smarter to know what communism actually is. Because it looks pretty silly being that wrong.

Or don't. Whichever.
Not wrong when you want to government to run things instead of free enterprise.
Free enterprise can run things better than any government control business and that is a proven fact.
indeed, that's all it is, a government controlled nation. that ain't the USA, the government works for us, not reverse.
 
How can Trumpsters, supposedly adults, not even fucking know what communism is?
Because they do and you do NOT.

The flaw in every argument put forth by apologists for communism is the insane hubris of thinking that ONLY they know what it is.

You are not better informed on the subject.
Great. Then list out Democrat officials who are advocating for communism.

I'm sure this will be easy, and that the list will be long.

:popcorn:
I never said they were. Bernie Sanders and AOC do however
Great. Show me where Sanders and AOC advocate for government taking over all production and distribution, and for the elimination of private property.

Because THAT'S what communism ACTUALLY is.

You claim to know more about this than me. I'm sure this will be easy. Knock it out of the park.
When's the last time you actually watched or heard an interview with Bernie Sanders?
Many times. He's not a communist.

You guys have clearly established here that you don't know what actual communism is. Which is strange to me, since there is no shortage of information available to you on the topic. Maybe getting out of your ideological bubble now and then would be a good idea. Get some fresh air.

If Bernie and AOC are the best you can do, all you're doing is spraying your ignorance on us.
Bernie wants all utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
See the corporations leaving the US in droves.
That's not communism.

Why can't you guys just take a few minutes and educate yourself on words you use?
what is nationalist ownership then? especially utilities and healthcare
Everything. Period. All major industry. That's communism.l utilities nationalized, free healthcare and free education.
And Nationalization of the all utilities, healthcare and education. is what Communism lite?
Call it what you want.

But if you're going to call people "commies", it's probably smarter to know what communism actually is. Because it looks pretty silly being that wrong.

Or don't. Whichever.
Not wrong when you want to government to run things instead of free enterprise.
Free enterprise can run things better than any government control business and that is a proven fact.
indeed, that's all it is, a government controlled nation. that ain't the USA, the government works for us, not reverse.
If it isn't wide open anarchy on one end, or literal communism on the other, then it obviously exists somewhere along the spectrum in between.

The intelligent conversation is determining where along that spectrum we would exist for optimal benefit for the most concerned.

And no, we're not "going commie".
 
The intelligent conversation is determining where along that spectrum we would exist for optimal benefit for the most concerned.
its not where your buddies on the left want us to be

They say they want equal opportunity but what you really want is equal outcomes

And the left wants control of government to make that happen
 
It is funny watching Liberal Progressive Socialist Democrat supporters opine, philosophize, and tell us all how the Cuban Immigrant (and others) who have lived in Communist / Socialist nations and their eventual collapse are wrong about the similarities of what is going on here now to what they have already lived through.

It doesn't seem to matter to the snowflakes that hey don't really have any credibility on the subject because they have never experienced it, lived through it, as these immigrants have....yet they still spew their own personal expertise...that is based on.....their own opinions.

:p
 
If it isn't wide open anarchy on one end, or literal communism on the other, then it obviously exists somewhere along the spectrum in between.

The intelligent conversation is determining where along that spectrum we would exist for optimal benefit for the most concerned.

And no, we're not "going commie".
going green is all of that. but hey you stay locked up and stupid, it's allowed.
 
If it isn't wide open anarchy on one end, or literal communism on the other, then it obviously exists somewhere along the spectrum in between.

The intelligent conversation is determining where along that spectrum we would exist for optimal benefit for the most concerned.

And no, we're not "going commie".
going green is all of that. but hey you stay locked up and stupid, it's allowed.
So the industries that will be manufacturing, selling and distributing green products and services will be literally and fully government-owned?

Please prove that.
 
So the industries that will be manufacturing, selling and distributing green products and services will be literally and fully government-owned?

Please prove that.
where's the money coming from?
The same place as where Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics and Northrup Grumman get theirs.

Are we commie, then?

And that's not ownership. That's patronage. They compete for that business in the free market.

You really are out of your league here. It would much smarter for you to just not say anything at this point.
 
The same place as where Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics and Northrup Grumman get theirs.

Are we commie, then?
certainly. government money is government owned. not sure how you can't see that.
 


The irony is this old cuban and many like him are exhibiting the typical totalitarian worship we see in autocratic nations.

You also see such authoritarian-worship from many Chinese immigrants. They grew up being told to love authoritarians, so they become Republicans. Like Republicans, they just can't function without a strong daddy-figure to take orders from.


 

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