BDS Movement Not Too Bright For Palestinians

[P F Tinmore]

JoeB131, Phoenall, et al,

I'm derailed here some where.

They are the same thing as you use the terms interchangeably depending on who is around. You know if you use the term Jew on here you will be pulled up as a RACIST so you use Zionist instead. We are slowly educating others to realise that you use the term in a racist manner.

Hey, guy, you can pretend that is the case, but in America, you can say "Jew" or "Zionist", because unlike Israel, this is a free country.

(REFERENCE)

FROM the Glossary of Jewish Terminology

• JEW: A person whose mother was a Jew or who has converted to Judaism. According to the Reform movement, a person whose father is a Jew is also a Jew. Although the term is derived from the term "Judahite" (meaning a member of the tribe of Judah or a citizen of the kingdom of Judah), it has historically been applied to the patriarchs, the matriarchs and all of the descendants of Jacob and all converts to their faith.
• ZIONISM: A political movement to create and maintain a Jewish state. The word is derived from Zion, another name for Jerusalem.

(COMMENT)

A Zionist is not advocating a religious position or movement; it is primarily a political agenda. One can be of any religious sect and be a zionist; it is religion immaterial.

To term Jew implies that the mother passed an inherited connection to the religion and the Jewish people. One can be a Zionist and not be Jewish. Jewishness does not automatically connect with Zionism.

My understanding is that Jewish Leaders discourages converts; but conversion to Judaism is possible.

These terms are not really interchangeable. I just assume (maybe incorrectly) that in this forum, the members know the distinction and apply the terms correctly. Neither are the terms Jew and Zionist interchangeable with term Israeli. Again their is no direct relationship.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, Judaism is a religion. Zionism is a political movement. Criticizing politics is not antisemitism.

 

[Billo_Really]

I must have mistaken you for one of the other 7 or 8 Jew Haters who posted this last year.
So, that's some big "crowd" in that video; must have had to use a "wide angle" lens.

Mistake = Wrong.

Why would I hate Jews?

 

[Phoenall]

Until the law makers realise that the terms are being used in a RACIST manner, then they will be placed on the list of words not allowed for that purpose.

That free that you cant fly the American flag in most places as it is against the law, or you cant have a swing set in your back yard. Not exactly free as you believe is it

NObody is going to outlaw your hurt feelings.

Incidently, there are no words that are outlawed in America. We have something called a first Amendment.

And calling a Zionist on what they do isn't racist. If you don't like supporting an apartheid racist state, you can totally fix that.

Time for you to read the first amendment and what it covers

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.


So your use of the term Zionist as you do is an infringement of the First Amendment

And we find this embodied in the first amendment


Defamation
Main article: United States defamation law

Justice William J. Brennan, Jr. wrote the landmark decision New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, requiring the demonstration of "actual malice" in libel suits against public figures.
American tort liability for defamatory speech or publications traces its origins to English common law. For the first two hundred years of American jurisprudence, the basic substance of defamation law continued to resemble that existing in England at the time of the Revolution. An 1898 American legal textbook on defamation provides definitions of libel and slander nearly identical to those given by William Blackstone and Edward Coke. An action of slander required the following:[165]

1. Actionable words, such as those imputing the injured party: is guilty of some offense, suffers from a contagious disease or psychological disorder, is unfit for public office because of moral failings or an inability to discharge his or her duties, or lacks integrity in profession, trade or business;
2. That the charge must be false;
3. That the charge must be articulated to a third person, verbally or in writing;
4. That the words are not subject to legal protection, such as those uttered in Congress; and
5. That the charge must be motivated by malice.

An action of libel required the same five general points as slander, except that it specifically involved the publication of defamatory statements.[166] For certain criminal charges of libel, such as seditious libel, the truth or falsity of the statements was immaterial, as such laws were intended to maintain public support of the government and true statements could damage this support even more than false ones.[167] Instead, libel placed specific emphasis on the result of the publication. Libelous publications tended to "degrade and injure another person" or "bring him into contempt, hatred or ridicule."[166]

Concerns that defamation under common law might be incompatible with the new republican form of government caused early American courts to struggle between William Blackstone's argument that the punishment of "dangerous or offensive writings . . . [was] necessary for the preservation of peace and good order, of government and religion, the only solid foundations of civil liberty" and the argument that the need for a free press guaranteed by the Constitution outweighed the fear of what might be written.[167] Consequently, very few changes were made in the first two centuries after the ratification of the First Amendment.

Again making your use of the term Zionist a breach of the first amendment


As I said you need to sit down and read the preamble and discourse not just the public abridged short version

 

[Phoenall]

JoeB131, Phoenall, et al,

I'm derailed here some where.

They are the same thing as you use the terms interchangeably depending on who is around. You know if you use the term Jew on here you will be pulled up as a RACIST so you use Zionist instead. We are slowly educating others to realise that you use the term in a racist manner.

Hey, guy, you can pretend that is the case, but in America, you can say "Jew" or "Zionist", because unlike Israel, this is a free country.

(REFERENCE)

FROM the Glossary of Jewish Terminology

• JEW: A person whose mother was a Jew or who has converted to Judaism. According to the Reform movement, a person whose father is a Jew is also a Jew. Although the term is derived from the term "Judahite" (meaning a member of the tribe of Judah or a citizen of the kingdom of Judah), it has historically been applied to the patriarchs, the matriarchs and all of the descendants of Jacob and all converts to their faith.
• ZIONISM: A political movement to create and maintain a Jewish state. The word is derived from Zion, another name for Jerusalem.

(COMMENT)

A Zionist is not advocating a religious position or movement; it is primarily a political agenda. One can be of any religious sect and be a zionist; it is religion immaterial.

To term Jew implies that the mother passed an inherited connection to the religion and the Jewish people. One can be a Zionist and not be Jewish. Jewishness does not automatically connect with Zionism.

My understanding is that Jewish Leaders discourages converts; but conversion to Judaism is possible.

These terms are not really interchangeable. I just assume (maybe incorrectly) that in this forum, the members know the distinction and apply the terms correctly. Neither are the terms Jew and Zionist interchangeable with term Israeli. Again their is no direct relationship.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, Judaism is a religion. Zionism is a political movement. Criticizing politics is not antisemitism.

It is when you use the term for the political and religious movement of Zionism as a racist slur. So when you and your ilk refer to Israel as that Zionist entity it is an anti-semitic racist term. The same when you say those dirty Zionists or those Zionist murderers you are implying this means all Jews and as such is a racist anti-Semitic slur.

 

[Phoenall]

I must have mistaken you for one of the other 7 or 8 Jew Haters who posted this last year.
So, that's some big "crowd" in that video; must have had to use a "wide angle" lens.

Mistake = Wrong.

Why would I hate Jews?

Because you are a brainwashed Catholic who was beaten into believing the priests and nuns. Well know fact that Catholics preach that the Jews killed their God and so engendered hatred of the Jews ever since.

 

[P F Tinmore]

JoeB131, Phoenall, et al,

I'm derailed here some where.

They are the same thing as you use the terms interchangeably depending on who is around. You know if you use the term Jew on here you will be pulled up as a RACIST so you use Zionist instead. We are slowly educating others to realise that you use the term in a racist manner.

Hey, guy, you can pretend that is the case, but in America, you can say "Jew" or "Zionist", because unlike Israel, this is a free country.

(REFERENCE)

FROM the Glossary of Jewish Terminology

• JEW: A person whose mother was a Jew or who has converted to Judaism. According to the Reform movement, a person whose father is a Jew is also a Jew. Although the term is derived from the term "Judahite" (meaning a member of the tribe of Judah or a citizen of the kingdom of Judah), it has historically been applied to the patriarchs, the matriarchs and all of the descendants of Jacob and all converts to their faith.
• ZIONISM: A political movement to create and maintain a Jewish state. The word is derived from Zion, another name for Jerusalem.

(COMMENT)

A Zionist is not advocating a religious position or movement; it is primarily a political agenda. One can be of any religious sect and be a zionist; it is religion immaterial.

To term Jew implies that the mother passed an inherited connection to the religion and the Jewish people. One can be a Zionist and not be Jewish. Jewishness does not automatically connect with Zionism.

My understanding is that Jewish Leaders discourages converts; but conversion to Judaism is possible.

These terms are not really interchangeable. I just assume (maybe incorrectly) that in this forum, the members know the distinction and apply the terms correctly. Neither are the terms Jew and Zionist interchangeable with term Israeli. Again their is no direct relationship.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, Judaism is a religion. Zionism is a political movement. Criticizing politics is not antisemitism.

It is when you use the term for the political and religious movement of Zionism as a racist slur. So when you and your ilk refer to Israel as that Zionist entity it is an anti-semitic racist term. The same when you say those dirty Zionists or those Zionist murderers you are implying this means all Jews and as such is a racist anti-Semitic slur.

Pffft!

Zionism is not a religion. It is a political movement.

 

[Phoenall]

JoeB131, Phoenall, et al,

I'm derailed here some where.

They are the same thing as you use the terms interchangeably depending on who is around. You know if you use the term Jew on here you will be pulled up as a RACIST so you use Zionist instead. We are slowly educating others to realise that you use the term in a racist manner.

Hey, guy, you can pretend that is the case, but in America, you can say "Jew" or "Zionist", because unlike Israel, this is a free country.

(REFERENCE)

FROM the Glossary of Jewish Terminology

• JEW: A person whose mother was a Jew or who has converted to Judaism. According to the Reform movement, a person whose father is a Jew is also a Jew. Although the term is derived from the term "Judahite" (meaning a member of the tribe of Judah or a citizen of the kingdom of Judah), it has historically been applied to the patriarchs, the matriarchs and all of the descendants of Jacob and all converts to their faith.
• ZIONISM: A political movement to create and maintain a Jewish state. The word is derived from Zion, another name for Jerusalem.

(COMMENT)

A Zionist is not advocating a religious position or movement; it is primarily a political agenda. One can be of any religious sect and be a zionist; it is religion immaterial.

To term Jew implies that the mother passed an inherited connection to the religion and the Jewish people. One can be a Zionist and not be Jewish. Jewishness does not automatically connect with Zionism.

My understanding is that Jewish Leaders discourages converts; but conversion to Judaism is possible.

These terms are not really interchangeable. I just assume (maybe incorrectly) that in this forum, the members know the distinction and apply the terms correctly. Neither are the terms Jew and Zionist interchangeable with term Israeli. Again their is no direct relationship.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, Judaism is a religion. Zionism is a political movement. Criticizing politics is not antisemitism.

It is when you use the term for the political and religious movement of Zionism as a racist slur. So when you and your ilk refer to Israel as that Zionist entity it is an anti-semitic racist term. The same when you say those dirty Zionists or those Zionist murderers you are implying this means all Jews and as such is a racist anti-Semitic slur.

Pffft!

Zionism is not a religion. It is a political movement.

And how is it defined ? Making your usual use of it RACIST and INTOLERANT

 

[docmauser1]

Yet they need the American Jews to keep the country going, I see Obama is refusing to let congress make any more deals to keep America afloat and will fiddles as Washington burns around him. Typical muslim mentallity

You mean Obama is refusing to let Congress NOT do its job? We should not be running the government on termporary budgets. But, no, guy, the Zionists know American Jews are kind of embarrassed by the Apartheid state they are running. They got them some new friend. The Dumb-ass Christian Bubba Redneck who thinks we need to have us an Israel so Jesus can come back and settle all the scores with the gays and the feminists.
Since these people are easy to dupe, (the plutocrats have been doing it for decades), it should be easy. The real problem the Zionists have is that the plutocrats in this country realize there is more profit to be made dealing with Iran (a 1.2 Trillion dollar economy with 70 million potential customers) than Israel (a 250 billion dollar economy with only 7 million customers and needs to be propped up by the American taxpayer).

The US dollar, as world's reserve currency, needs to be propped through Israel and others. And, our honorable joeb131, of course, is as rock-solid bullish as per his usual.

 

[docmauser1]

That's not for our dear billo_really to decide, of course. The whipping of the anti-jew hysteria will have and has a very important unintended consequence - jews, not welcomed anywhere else, are welcomed only in Israel. Palistanians will have to move over to make room for jews that they've been working so hard to drive out of respective countries. Palistanian karma's a bitch, ain't it?

The problem is you are conflating Anti-Zionist with anti-Jew.

Funny. Reading our honorable joeb131 bullish i haven't noticed any differentiation, of course, both are derogatory synonyms. And our honorable joeb131's degree in history is on par with hi skool.A lot of Jews don't give a fuck about Israel.[/QUOTE]In view of the US presidente, who doesn't give a fuck about the US, that was a "mighty" insult, indeed.

 

[docmauser1]

They are the same thing as you use the terms interchangeably depending on who is around. You know if you use the term Jew on here you will be pulled up as a RACIST so you use Zionist instead. We are slowly educating others to realise that you use the term in a racist manner.

Hey, guy, you can pretend that is the case, but in America, you can say "Jew" or "Zionist", because unlike Israel, this is a free country.

A police state, actually. The only thing, that differentiates it from stasi and the soviet KGB, is only the degree of technological sofistication, otherwise the change is almost complete. Which, yet again, begs for a question, what was that, really, the US have been accusing russkies of? And, bth., go study some good dictionary.

 

[docmauser1]

Why would I hate Jews?

Indeed, let's hear it, why.

 

[JoeB131]

Time for you to read the first amendment and what it covers

Uh, guy, I have. Sorry, man, if were so inclined I could march up and down the street in a Stormtrooper uniform with a sign that said, "The Jews killed Jesus." FUck, I can do this in downtown Skokie and the police would be obligated to protect me when I did it. And we figured this out back in the 1970's, thanks to the ACLU.

So yes, I can totally point out that THIS is what Zionism is.

 

[JoeB131]

Funny. Reading our honorable joeb131 bullish i haven't noticed any differentiation, of course, both are derogatory synonyms. And our honorable joeb131's degree in history is on par with hi skool.A lot of Jews don't give a fuck about Israel.

In view of the US presidente, who doesn't give a fuck about the US, that was a "mighty" insult, indeed.[/QUOTE]

Guy, I'm going to assume you are Zionist that doesn't speak English as his first language. It's the only way I can explain your babbling.

A police state, actually. The only thing, that differentiates it from stasi and the soviet KGB, is only the degree of technological sofistication, otherwise the change is almost complete. Which, yet again, begs for a question, what was that, really, the US have been accusing russkies of? And, bth., go study some good dictionary.

Dude, you are babbling. clearly, you don't have a good grasp on the English Language.

 

[docmauser1]

Uh, guy, I have. Sorry, man, if were so inclined I could march up and down the street in a Stormtrooper uniform with a sign that said, "The Jews killed Jesus." FUck, I can do this in downtown Skokie and the police would be obligated to protect me when I did it. And we figured this out back in the 1970's, thanks to the ACLU.[ /quote]Do it and post pics.

So yes, I can totally point out that THIS is what Zionism is.

Bullish.

 

[Phoenall]

Time for you to read the first amendment and what it covers

Uh, guy, I have. Sorry, man, if were so inclined I could march up and down the street in a Stormtrooper uniform with a sign that said, "The Jews killed Jesus." FUck, I can do this in downtown Skokie and the police would be obligated to protect me when I did it. And we figured this out back in the 1970's, thanks to the ACLU.

So yes, I can totally point out that THIS is what Zionism is.

And cry foul when you are taken to court under civil rights laws that exist just to hit morons like you. And a word of warning don't think about travelling to Europe as we know how to deal with scum like you, and we don't have any amendments for you to hide behind. I wonder which amendment the Racists who Lynched Negros hid behind

 

[Phoenall]

Funny. Reading our honorable joeb131 bullish i haven't noticed any differentiation, of course, both are derogatory synonyms. And our honorable joeb131's degree in history is on par with hi skool.A lot of Jews don't give a fuck about Israel.

In view of the US presidente, who doesn't give a fuck about the US, that was a "mighty" insult, indeed.

Guy, I'm going to assume you are Zionist that doesn't speak English as his first language. It's the only way I can explain your babbling.

A police state, actually. The only thing, that differentiates it from stasi and the soviet KGB, is only the degree of technological sofistication, otherwise the change is almost complete. Which, yet again, begs for a question, what was that, really, the US have been accusing russkies of? And, bth., go study some good dictionary.

Dude, you are babbling. clearly, you don't have a good grasp on the English Language.[/QUOTE]




Niether do you because you speak American racist

 

[JoeB131]

And cry foul when you are taken to court under civil rights laws that exist just to hit morons like you. And a word of warning don't think about travelling to Europe as we know how to deal with scum like you, and we don't have any amendments for you to hide behind. I wonder which amendment the Racists who Lynched Negros hid behind

I wouldn't travel to Europe anyway, but Europeans are getting pretty sick of the Zionists and their shit.

Hense the rise of BDS in Europe.

You do realize that Israel is hated in most of the world, right? That you are an apartheid state that slaughters children.

 

[JoeB131]

Niether do you because you speak American racist

Okay, I finally got you to lose your shit, didn't I?

 

[Phoenall]

And cry foul when you are taken to court under civil rights laws that exist just to hit morons like you. And a word of warning don't think about travelling to Europe as we know how to deal with scum like you, and we don't have any amendments for you to hide behind. I wonder which amendment the Racists who Lynched Negros hid behind

I wouldn't travel to Europe anyway, but Europeans are getting pretty sick of the Zionists and their shit.

Hense the rise of BDS in Europe.

You do realize that Israel is hated in most of the world, right? That you are an apartheid state that slaughters children.

WRONG again it is the muslims we are getting sick of, apart from a handful of Nazis and muslims who are being sorted.

You mean the decline as most nations are arresting BDS supporters on Racism charges. No first amendment to hide behind

Wrong it is America and islam that is hated the most. and you have still to produce any evidence of Israel being an apartheid state like Palestine, Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Egypt etc.

 

[Phoenall]

Niether do you because you speak American racist

Okay, I finally got you to lose your shit, didn't I?

See English mangled and butchered as only an American racist can do it