Barr: Trump using 'extortion' to control GOP

[Sixties Fan]

[Psychiatrists have been warning about Trump for years. Some Republicans choose to look the other way, others do not see it at all.]

For the past five years, some of the world’s leading mental health specialists have attempted to warn the public that Donald Trump was and continues to be a serious threat to public safety.
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According to these experts, Trump appears to be a malignant narcissist, a pathological liar obsessed with violence, easily manipulated by the praise and other ego-stroking behavior, indifferent to the suffering of other human beings, anti-social and anti-human in his values and behavior, irresponsible and impulsive, and in laymen terms a “total psychopath.”

When asked if Trump’s followers were addicted to him, he stated that “I don’t like to use the word “addiction” because it has a particular meaning. I would describe Trump’s most extreme devotees as members of a charismatic cult. Such cults unconditionally worship a charismatic leader who is often delusional with a grandiose, psychotic belief in his perfection, like Trump. The followers close themselves off from accurate or rational information in order to protect their connection to the godlike cult leader and to avoid questioning his delusional views, which would cause them to be shunned or expelled from the group.”

Dodes adds that Trump is certainly a public mental health emergency, and “one that has occurred many times in human history. Followers adopt the belief system of a populist tyrant which becomes the new permitted reality, spreading to others who are swept up by their need to be included. That belief system, however fantastical or delusional, remains accepted truth until it is finally shown to be false. Those who have been conned into believing the tyrant’s lies find comfort in their conviction that they know the truth, enabling them to feel superior to doubters.”

“He has been delusional for years, from the start of his presidency, when he claimed he had large crowds at his inauguration. But it’s important to add that besides being delusional, Trump’s behavior also reflects his deeply severe character disorder, his sociopathy. A person, after all, can be delusional and in no danger whatsoever to anyone else. But the fact that Trump is a sociopath, a person without a conscience who is incapable of recognizing the inherent worth of other human beings, makes him the enormous danger he is. Trump has the worst of all worlds, one might say, psychotically grandiose and utterly uncaring about the harm he causes others. He is basically psychologically the same as the many infamous, cruel tyrants we know from recent and remote history.”

(full article online )

Former psychiatrist says Trump is an untreatable total psychopath. Believes he could create hell on earth if he returns to power

For the past five years, some of the world's leading mental health specialists have attempted to warn the public that

vozwire.com

 

[Mac1958]

[Psychiatrists have been warning about Trump for years. Some Republicans choose to look the other way, others do not see it at all.]

For the past five years, some of the world’s leading mental health specialists have attempted to warn the public that Donald Trump was and continues to be a serious threat to public safety.
--------
According to these experts, Trump appears to be a malignant narcissist, a pathological liar obsessed with violence, easily manipulated by the praise and other ego-stroking behavior, indifferent to the suffering of other human beings, anti-social and anti-human in his values and behavior, irresponsible and impulsive, and in laymen terms a “total psychopath.”

When asked if Trump’s followers were addicted to him, he stated that “I don’t like to use the word “addiction” because it has a particular meaning. I would describe Trump’s most extreme devotees as members of a charismatic cult. Such cults unconditionally worship a charismatic leader who is often delusional with a grandiose, psychotic belief in his perfection, like Trump. The followers close themselves off from accurate or rational information in order to protect their connection to the godlike cult leader and to avoid questioning his delusional views, which would cause them to be shunned or expelled from the group.”

Dodes adds that Trump is certainly a public mental health emergency, and “one that has occurred many times in human history. Followers adopt the belief system of a populist tyrant which becomes the new permitted reality, spreading to others who are swept up by their need to be included. That belief system, however fantastical or delusional, remains accepted truth until it is finally shown to be false. Those who have been conned into believing the tyrant’s lies find comfort in their conviction that they know the truth, enabling them to feel superior to doubters.”

“He has been delusional for years, from the start of his presidency, when he claimed he had large crowds at his inauguration. But it’s important to add that besides being delusional, Trump’s behavior also reflects his deeply severe character disorder, his sociopathy. A person, after all, can be delusional and in no danger whatsoever to anyone else. But the fact that Trump is a sociopath, a person without a conscience who is incapable of recognizing the inherent worth of other human beings, makes him the enormous danger he is. Trump has the worst of all worlds, one might say, psychotically grandiose and utterly uncaring about the harm he causes others. He is basically psychologically the same as the many infamous, cruel tyrants we know from recent and remote history.”

(full article online )

Former psychiatrist says Trump is an untreatable total psychopath. Believes he could create hell on earth if he returns to power

For the past five years, some of the world's leading mental health specialists have attempted to warn the public that

vozwire.com

My argument all along is that this is not about Trump. This is a sociological, anthropological and cultural issue.

There has been so much noise since Escalator Day that I fear we're not paying nearly enough attention to that, the bigger picture. What does it say about us as a society and civilization that this could happen? We're not asking that.

We'd goddamn well better, because this ain't about one guy.

 

[j-mac]

[Psychiatrists have been warning about Trump for years. Some Republicans choose to look the other way, others do not see it at all.]

For the past five years, some of the world’s leading mental health specialists have attempted to warn the public that Donald Trump was and continues to be a serious threat to public safety.
--------
According to these experts, Trump appears to be a malignant narcissist, a pathological liar obsessed with violence, easily manipulated by the praise and other ego-stroking behavior, indifferent to the suffering of other human beings, anti-social and anti-human in his values and behavior, irresponsible and impulsive, and in laymen terms a “total psychopath.”

When asked if Trump’s followers were addicted to him, he stated that “I don’t like to use the word “addiction” because it has a particular meaning. I would describe Trump’s most extreme devotees as members of a charismatic cult. Such cults unconditionally worship a charismatic leader who is often delusional with a grandiose, psychotic belief in his perfection, like Trump. The followers close themselves off from accurate or rational information in order to protect their connection to the godlike cult leader and to avoid questioning his delusional views, which would cause them to be shunned or expelled from the group.”

Dodes adds that Trump is certainly a public mental health emergency, and “one that has occurred many times in human history. Followers adopt the belief system of a populist tyrant which becomes the new permitted reality, spreading to others who are swept up by their need to be included. That belief system, however fantastical or delusional, remains accepted truth until it is finally shown to be false. Those who have been conned into believing the tyrant’s lies find comfort in their conviction that they know the truth, enabling them to feel superior to doubters.”

“He has been delusional for years, from the start of his presidency, when he claimed he had large crowds at his inauguration. But it’s important to add that besides being delusional, Trump’s behavior also reflects his deeply severe character disorder, his sociopathy. A person, after all, can be delusional and in no danger whatsoever to anyone else. But the fact that Trump is a sociopath, a person without a conscience who is incapable of recognizing the inherent worth of other human beings, makes him the enormous danger he is. Trump has the worst of all worlds, one might say, psychotically grandiose and utterly uncaring about the harm he causes others. He is basically psychologically the same as the many infamous, cruel tyrants we know from recent and remote history.”

(full article online )

Former psychiatrist says Trump is an untreatable total psychopath. Believes he could create hell on earth if he returns to power

For the past five years, some of the world's leading mental health specialists have attempted to warn the public that

vozwire.com

And when did the esteemed Dr Dodds examine FPOTUS Trump? The answer is never....

Also, given the good doctor's willingness to diagnose without any interaction, what are his thoughts on Biden's cognitive abilities? Oh, he hasn't provided anything? Hmmmmm, wonder why....

Because he's a partisan quack, that's why.

 

[JoeB131]

Just from my years of living on this planet, usually a search warrant that retrieves what they say they did, charges would have already been brought....Why do you suppose they haven't?

It's only been two weeks...

Look, it is the very fact that Ms. Clinton was let off the hook, when we knew that hacking of her email, and server was not only probable, but likely, her home wasn't raided, she was treated with kid gloves in FBI questioning, and ultimately let off with the weak as hell excuse that no prosecutor would move that case forward...But somehow, Trump isn't afforded the same level of deference? Give me a break...

Hillary didn't demonize the FBI for doing their jobs. That's why they treated her decently. She complied with their investigation, just like every other fucking investigation she was subjected to back to Whitewater.

 

[JoeB131]

My argument all along is that this is not about Trump. This is a sociological, anthropological and cultural issue.

There has been so much noise since Escalator Day that I fear we're not paying nearly enough attention to that, the bigger picture. What does it say about us as a society and civilization that this could happen? We're not asking that.

We'd goddamn well better, because this ain't about one guy.

Yeah, it is about one guy...

What you whine about has been going on since 1860.

 

[Sixties Fan]

My argument all along is that this is not about Trump. This is a sociological, anthropological and cultural issue.

There has been so much noise since Escalator Day that I fear we're not paying nearly enough attention to that, the bigger picture. What does it say about us as a society and civilization that this could happen? We're not asking that.

We'd goddamn well better, because this ain't about one guy.

This is truly, and always been, about how a party changed too much in the past 40 years, that the Constitution and the Rule of Law do not matter to them anymore.

The Republican Party, first with the Tea Party and then giving in to Trump once he won the Primary, has shown that only Power, and the retaining of power, is what has been mattering to them.

No wonder Bush 1 and 2, and many other Republicans from the time he went down the escalator till now, have been sending strong signals to the party to not vote for him, and the consequences if he did win the election.

Deaf ears.

Many more Republicans have become aware of what Trump is about and have walked away and voted for Hilary in 2016, or Biden in 2020.


We will have to wait and see how the Republican issues about abortion and others will affect their illegibility in November and in 2024, when the voters will show how these issues affect their lives and how they approve of the SC decisions, as well as others in congress.

I do hope that the number of voters for extreme ideas on the Republican side is dwindling enough to give this country some light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[berg80]

who was it that signed the 1st Step Act? Hmmm?

not Obama, not MLK, but Donald J Trump

there are some people like Trump who actually DID SOMETHING to help black people, there were others like Obama and MLK...who took a hike!

You obviously don't know what civil rights are. Comparing Trump to MLK, really?

 

[Sixties Fan]

And when did the esteemed Dr Dodds examine FPOTUS Trump? The answer is never....

Also, given the good doctor's willingness to diagnose without any interaction, what are his thoughts on Biden's cognitive abilities? Oh, he hasn't provided anything? Hmmmmm, wonder why....

Because he's a partisan quack, that's why.

You clearly do not know anything about Psychiatry.

And Biden has no Cognitive disabilities. This is a falsehood promulgated by the Republicans during the campaign to delegitimize Biden.

Biden's record this 18 months say otherwise. But you could not care less.

 

[basquebromance]

You obviously don't know what civil rights are. Comparing Trump to MLK, really?

Trump is 10 trillion times better than MLK on civil rights

Trump's accomplishments: 1st Step Act, yelling at Bill Barr to fix it when Floyd got murdered

MLK: opened his mouth and sound came out

 

[Sixties Fan]

And when did the esteemed Dr Dodds examine FPOTUS Trump? The answer is never....

Also, given the good doctor's willingness to diagnose without any interaction, what are his thoughts on Biden's cognitive abilities? Oh, he hasn't provided anything? Hmmmmm, wonder why....

Because he's a partisan quack, that's why.

[ Not ONE Psychiatrist, but many ]

Eight months ago, moved by what we were witnessing in the American president, we joined 25 other psychiatrists and mental health experts in putting our concerns into a book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump. We believed Trump’s mental state presented a danger to the public and felt we had a duty to warn them. We intended the book, which became a best-seller, as a service, putting the royalties into a fund for public good.

Since the book’s publication, however, we have faced a wave of backlash—not just from political observers but from doctors in our own field. Many commentators claimed that we were violating the Goldwater rule, the American Psychiatric Association’s ethical directive that psychiatrists should not diagnose anyone they have not personally evaluated. A past president of the American Psychiatric Association called our work “tawdry, indulgent, fatuous, tabloid psychiatry.” We heard similar criticisms last week, after Politico reported that one of us, Dr. Bandy Lee, had met with members of Congress to discuss the president’s behavior and mental health.


But these criticisms get two things wrong: first, that we are violating the Goldwater rule, and second, that we should avoid talking about the president’s mental health. Without diagnosing Trump in a specific way, as the Goldwater rule prohibits, it is not only acceptable but vitally necessary to have a public conversation about mental state of our nation’s leader.

When the American Psychiatric Association created the Goldwater rule in 1973, in reaction to an article in Fact magazine citing hundreds of psychiatrists who had said Republican candidate Barry Goldwater was unfit to be president, the association was rightly concerned that the profession’s reputation would be harmed by careless opinions made in public. But the APA recently decided to interpret the rule more strictly: Where previously it forbade only diagnosis from afar, as of March 2017 the association says it prohibits any commenting on the mental health of a public figure. Orthopedists, cardiologists and other medical authorities can enlighten the public about health issues that affect public figures, such as heart conditions—but physicians with specific training and experience in mental disorders cannot. By fiat of the APA, the Goldwater rule has effectively turned into a gag rule.

The Goldwater rule, in its original conception, served an important purpose—one that our writings and speeches have not undermined. All 27 experts who contributed to The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump took pains not to diagnose the president in the book. (Bandy, who edited the book, is a strong proponent of the Goldwater rule and particularly opposes modifying it under political pressure.) A formal psychiatric diagnosis is reached after careful study of the patient, including taking a history, performing a physical, reviewing lab results and history of past illnesses and treatments, and obtaining supplementary perspectives from close family members. A diagnosis forms the basis for a treatment plan individually designed for that patient’s future care. An individual’s dangerousness, however, can be reliably assessed by interviewing co-workers and intimates, reviewing the individual’s past statements and behaviors, reviewing police reports and, crucially, assessing context. While an in-person interview can be quite useful, it is not strictly required to assess danger.

Furthermore, we are not interested in Trump’s personal issues, which are his private affair. We comment on the traits of the president only in relation to the public office he holds, and with the express interest of educating and warning the public against danger.

Not only does our book not violate the Goldwater rule, but the APA’s expanded interpretation of it is at odds with the association’s ethics code, which actually allows psychiatrists to speak about psychiatric issues in general when asked about a public figure. In fact, the code obligates psychiatrists to “participate in activities contributing to … the betterment of public health.” Thus, quashing a conversation that serves in the interest of public health, as the APA is now doing, directly contradicts the principles of medical ethics, as well as those of the World Medical Association’s 1948 Geneva Declaration, which clarified the humanitarian goals of medicine. Both of us have resigned from the APA—Leonard Glass, once a distinguished life fellow, did so in direct response to the association’s new interpretation of the Goldwater rule, and Bandy, once a fellow, did so more than a decade ago because of the association’s close ties with the pharmaceutical industry.

It was with all of this in mind that Bandy, along with the psychiatrist James Gilligan, agreed to meet last month with a dozen members of Congress, all but one of them Democrats. (A former member had originally asked her to testify before all of Congress, but when this was delayed, a former assistant U.S. attorney arranged for her to meet with members individually.) By meeting with lawmakers, she was abiding by the APA’s ethical guidelines, which precede the Goldwater rule and instruct psychiatrists “to serve society by advising and consulting with the executive, legislative, and judiciary branches of the government.” In these meetings, she discussed purely medical matters without partisan affiliation or investment in a certain political outcome, which is for lawmakers to decide.

While the meetings were private and confidential, in general it’s fair to say the members themselves were forthright. “You don’t have to convince us. We have been so concerned ourselves. We were eager to meet with you,” was a common answer. One lawmaker said: “I have never so waited for a meeting in 11 years.” Several Democrats said they knew of Republican lawmakers who shared their concerns but could not express them publicly. They charged us to continue educating the public.

(full article online)

We’re Psychiatrists. It’s Our Duty to Question the President’s Mental State.

Since the book’s publication, however, we have faced a wave of backlash—not just from political observers but from doctors in our own field.<i> </i>

www.politico.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Trump is 10 trillion times better than MLK on civil rights

Trump's accomplishments: 1st Step Act, yelling at Bill Barr to fix it when Floyd got murdered

MLK: opened his mouth and sound came out

[Some people think the 1st step act is not adequate. Did Trump fix that?]

What is wrong with the First Step Act?


The FIRST STEP Act's earned time credits are not real time off a sentence, but more time in a halfway house or home confinement. This is inadequate. Limited space already reduces the amount of time individuals can spend in halfway houses.

 

[j-mac]

You clearly do not know anything about Psychiatry.

And Biden has no Cognitive disabilities. This is a falsehood promulgated by the Republicans during the campaign to delegitimize Biden.

Biden's record this 18 months say otherwise. But you could not care less.

You are a complete idiot man.....

"Section 7.3 of The Principles of Medical Ethics With Annotations Especially Applicable to Psychiatry (sometimes called “The Goldwater Rule”) explicitly states that psychiatrists may share expertise about psychiatric issues in general but that it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion about an individual based on publicly available information without conducting an examination. "

We see Biden's cognitive decline everyday on our Televisions....

And I care deeply about Biden's record this past 18 months, spending recklessly, inflation, open borders, and dividing American's purposely...He's a disaster.

 

[j-mac]

[ Not ONE Psychiatrist, but many ]

Eight months ago, moved by what we were witnessing in the American president, we joined 25 other psychiatrists and mental health experts in putting our concerns into a book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump. We believed Trump’s mental state presented a danger to the public and felt we had a duty to warn them. We intended the book, which became a best-seller, as a service, putting the royalties into a fund for public good.

Since the book’s publication, however, we have faced a wave of backlash—not just from political observers but from doctors in our own field. Many commentators claimed that we were violating the Goldwater rule, the American Psychiatric Association’s ethical directive that psychiatrists should not diagnose anyone they have not personally evaluated. A past president of the American Psychiatric Association called our work “tawdry, indulgent, fatuous, tabloid psychiatry.” We heard similar criticisms last week, after Politico reported that one of us, Dr. Bandy Lee, had met with members of Congress to discuss the president’s behavior and mental health.


But these criticisms get two things wrong: first, that we are violating the Goldwater rule, and second, that we should avoid talking about the president’s mental health. Without diagnosing Trump in a specific way, as the Goldwater rule prohibits, it is not only acceptable but vitally necessary to have a public conversation about mental state of our nation’s leader.

When the American Psychiatric Association created the Goldwater rule in 1973, in reaction to an article in Fact magazine citing hundreds of psychiatrists who had said Republican candidate Barry Goldwater was unfit to be president, the association was rightly concerned that the profession’s reputation would be harmed by careless opinions made in public. But the APA recently decided to interpret the rule more strictly: Where previously it forbade only diagnosis from afar, as of March 2017 the association says it prohibits any commenting on the mental health of a public figure. Orthopedists, cardiologists and other medical authorities can enlighten the public about health issues that affect public figures, such as heart conditions—but physicians with specific training and experience in mental disorders cannot. By fiat of the APA, the Goldwater rule has effectively turned into a gag rule.

The Goldwater rule, in its original conception, served an important purpose—one that our writings and speeches have not undermined. All 27 experts who contributed to The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump took pains not to diagnose the president in the book. (Bandy, who edited the book, is a strong proponent of the Goldwater rule and particularly opposes modifying it under political pressure.) A formal psychiatric diagnosis is reached after careful study of the patient, including taking a history, performing a physical, reviewing lab results and history of past illnesses and treatments, and obtaining supplementary perspectives from close family members. A diagnosis forms the basis for a treatment plan individually designed for that patient’s future care. An individual’s dangerousness, however, can be reliably assessed by interviewing co-workers and intimates, reviewing the individual’s past statements and behaviors, reviewing police reports and, crucially, assessing context. While an in-person interview can be quite useful, it is not strictly required to assess danger.

Furthermore, we are not interested in Trump’s personal issues, which are his private affair. We comment on the traits of the president only in relation to the public office he holds, and with the express interest of educating and warning the public against danger.

Not only does our book not violate the Goldwater rule, but the APA’s expanded interpretation of it is at odds with the association’s ethics code, which actually allows psychiatrists to speak about psychiatric issues in general when asked about a public figure. In fact, the code obligates psychiatrists to “participate in activities contributing to … the betterment of public health.” Thus, quashing a conversation that serves in the interest of public health, as the APA is now doing, directly contradicts the principles of medical ethics, as well as those of the World Medical Association’s 1948 Geneva Declaration, which clarified the humanitarian goals of medicine. Both of us have resigned from the APA—Leonard Glass, once a distinguished life fellow, did so in direct response to the association’s new interpretation of the Goldwater rule, and Bandy, once a fellow, did so more than a decade ago because of the association’s close ties with the pharmaceutical industry.

It was with all of this in mind that Bandy, along with the psychiatrist James Gilligan, agreed to meet last month with a dozen members of Congress, all but one of them Democrats. (A former member had originally asked her to testify before all of Congress, but when this was delayed, a former assistant U.S. attorney arranged for her to meet with members individually.) By meeting with lawmakers, she was abiding by the APA’s ethical guidelines, which precede the Goldwater rule and instruct psychiatrists “to serve society by advising and consulting with the executive, legislative, and judiciary branches of the government.” In these meetings, she discussed purely medical matters without partisan affiliation or investment in a certain political outcome, which is for lawmakers to decide.

While the meetings were private and confidential, in general it’s fair to say the members themselves were forthright. “You don’t have to convince us. We have been so concerned ourselves. We were eager to meet with you,” was a common answer. One lawmaker said: “I have never so waited for a meeting in 11 years.” Several Democrats said they knew of Republican lawmakers who shared their concerns but could not express them publicly. They charged us to continue educating the public.

(full article online)

We’re Psychiatrists. It’s Our Duty to Question the President’s Mental State.

Since the book’s publication, however, we have faced a wave of backlash—not just from political observers but from doctors in our own field.<i> </i>

www.politico.com

Partisan quacks....Don't interest me....Dude.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You are a complete idiot man.....

"Section 7.3 of The Principles of Medical Ethics With Annotations Especially Applicable to Psychiatry (sometimes called “The Goldwater Rule”) explicitly states that psychiatrists may share expertise about psychiatric issues in general but that it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion about an individual based on publicly available information without conducting an examination. "

We see Biden's cognitive decline everyday on our Televisions....

And I care deeply about Biden's record this past 18 months, spending recklessly, inflation, open borders, and dividing American's purposely...He's a disaster.

Yes, the ethics exist, which is the more impressive that all of those psychiatrists in the US, and there are many more all around the world, who saw Trump's behavior as dangerous not only to the US, but to the world.

Do you know the meaning of cognitive? Or just repeating the word because you heard it from Republicans?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Partisan quacks....Don't interest me....Dude.

Non Partisan psychiatrists who care about the country's future.

No psychiatrist in the world thinks that Trump is a sane person. He likes tyrants like Putin and the Hungarian one, and the one from North Korea, way too much.

No normal politician would support someone who thinks that way.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ No other US President praised dictators as Trump has praised these ones ]

15 times Donald Trump praised authoritarian rulers | CNN Politics

During his recent trip to the G20 summit in Japan, President Donald Trump met with Russian President Vladimir Putin. In a photo op before the meeting, Trump said this to Putin in reference to the assembled press: "Get rid of them. Fake news is a great term, isn't it? You don't have this problem...

www.cnn.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ First I bash the FBI. Now, watch me win them over to my side ]

 

[citygator]

Get back to me when he is charged.

So you can claim he’s a victim of federal liberal persecution? What’s the point? You’re not bothered by his egregious lack of respect for laws and secure document handling.

 

[j-mac]

Yes, the ethics exist, which is the more impressive that all of those psychiatrists in the US, and there are many more all around the world, who saw Trump's behavior as dangerous not only to the US, but to the world.

Do you know the meaning of cognitive? Or just repeating the word because you heard it from Republicans?

Look man, I’m 60 yrs old. I watched my father, and father in law decline, not to mention my neighbor, rest his soul battle Alzheimer’s…I’ve had family members in need of mental health treatment before as well, so don’t presume I know nothing of the field…

Any Psychiatrist that would give a diagnosis based on his/her opinion politically of a person is a quack, period.

 

[j-mac]

Non Partisan psychiatrists who care about the country's future.

No psychiatrist in the world thinks that Trump is a sane person. He likes tyrants like Putin and the Hungarian one, and the one from North Korea, way too much.

No normal politician would support someone who thinks that way.

The minute you throw out what I bolded there you’ve lost the argument.