Bank shooter was a lefty, anti-gunner

[2aguy]

Wow. What happened to "shall not be infringed"? Now you think their right to gun ownership should be infringed upon? Wow. I wasn't expecting to see you reverse your stance here.

And another leftist shows they have no sense of humor.........

 

[Blues Man]

Yup, your imaginary freedom shouldn't trump my security.

If you tell me that you can't have your freedom to compensate for your tiny peckers can't exist without crazy people getting guns, then THAT'S A FREEDOM WE DON'T NEED.

Yes it should.

and my freedom is not nor has it ever been a threat to your security.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes it should.

and my freedom is not nor has it ever been a threat to your security.

Until the day you snap...um, yeah.

Like this banker boy did.

 

[Blues Man]

Until the day you snap...um, yeah.

Like this banker boy did.

Not gonna happen

But then again I don't buy into that flawed everyone is nothing but a criminal in waiting bullshit

Maybe we should put your name on a sex offenders list though because we know it's only a matter of time before you rape a woman right?

 

[August West]

I agree... since left wingers are all mentally ill anyone who votes for democrats should be banned from gun ownership

If we beat up 130 cops and smear shit on the Capitol`s walls would you like us then?

 

[jackflash]

The writings of the left wing bank shooter state he had an anti-gun motive in his attack......

He wanted to prove how easy it was to purchase a firearm, to highlight the mental health crisis in the U.S., and to commit suicide.

Louisville Banker Killer Left Behind Manifesto Detailing Anti-Gun Motive For The Shooting: Report | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

so far this year 5 mass public shootings

2 by asian senior citizens
1 by a black man
1 by a left wing, democrat party transgender radical
1 by a left wing, democrat, anyi-gun nut

Those that are of the statist left mentality definitely take groupthink/identity politics to the extreme. This example of the suicide bank shooter is just one more example of groupthink/identity politics poisoning the mind of yet another individual. It is more than obvious that even if Connor had not been fired from his employment that sooner or later Connor would go off the deep end. A series of concussions to Connors head could certainly have affected his motor nerve functions, but I would say that Connor's last action was more related to a negative spiritual problem. Though many folks would gaff off such a statement the fact remains that both good & evil certainly has played a MAJOR role throughout humanities existence.

 

[2aguy]

If we beat up 130 cops and smear shit on the Capitol`s walls would you like us then?

You guys burned, looted and murdered in our our major cities for an entire year murdering about 40 people....injuring over 400 police and causing about a billon dollars in damages...

and no we dont like you....we want to stop you

 

[struth]

The writings of the left wing bank shooter state he had an anti-gun motive in his attack......

He wanted to prove how easy it was to purchase a firearm, to highlight the mental health crisis in the U.S., and to commit suicide.

Louisville Banker Killer Left Behind Manifesto Detailing Anti-Gun Motive For The Shooting: Report | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

so far this year 5 mass public shootings

2 by asian senior citizens
1 by a black man
1 by a left wing, democrat party transgender radical
1 by a left wing, democrat, anyi-gun nut

The dangerous rhetoric out of the Xiden admin is directly responsible for these horrible deaths.

 

[The Duke]

Only a liberal nut job would use guns to committ a mass nurder because they oppose guns, which are used in mass murders.

 

[The Duke]

Yep EVERY 4473 Form should include a Drug Screening for SSRIs & other Illegal Drugs and a list of your Shrinks , Psychologists and how many 51/50s you have had

What is a 51/50?

 

[Blues Man]

What is a 51/50?

A Van Halen Album?

 

[The Duke]

A Van Halen Album?

Ayep.
Well, really a Van Hagar album.

 

[XponentialChaos]

And another leftist shows they have no sense of humor.........

Oh so you don’t actually believe the stupid crap you said. Sometimes it’s hard to tell if you’re joking or if you actually believe what you say.

You said people who vote Democrat are mentally ill. Was that a joke too or do you actually believe that?

 

[Failzero]

What is a 51/50?

You go on a Molly & Meth induced bender and flip out and run naked down a city street in Santa Cruz Ca.or Rockwall Texas and try and escape the people out to get you or the drones following you by hiding in a Dumpster and resist the Cops and paramedics who come to get you. Your placed into protective custody for 72. Hours and a judge forced a psyche eval

 

[Failzero]

You go on a Molly & Meth induced bender and flip out and run naked down a city street in Santa Cruz Ca.or Rockwall Texas and try and escape the people out to get you or the drones following you by hiding in a Dumpster and resist the Cops and paramedics who come to get you. Your placed into protective custody for 72. Hours and a judge forced a psyche eval

And after ONE of these your future 4473 forms are kicked back denied for five years minimum ( In Ca.)

 

[Failzero]

Not all defensive gun uses are "shootouts". In fact in most of them no one is killed at all.

I would say Justifiable Brandishing saves over half as many lives per year as lives taken in Criminal activity by Firearm

 

[Failzero]

I would say if one's gender dysphoria leads to other problems, that should be a good reason to deny them a gun.

Like having several past 51/50s , currently seeing a Shrink and two Psychologists and being on SSRIs ?

 

[Failzero]

That's arguable... The fact that militias were so poorly trained during the Civil War (The NRA was started by a Union General who was horrified by poor marksmanship skills) is a large reason why we developed a more professional army and reserves.

It’s History , why argue about it , that won’t change it .

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sure, once you convince me the gun owner isn't a crazy person, or someone who is likely to shoot his wife because she burned the pot roast or the neighbor kid who got the address wrong, I'll be all for that.

It should be harder to get a gun than it is to get a mortgage.

When I got a mortgage in 2021, it took about 30 days, and they investigated every aspect of my financial life, even though at the time I was carrying no credit card debt, had never had a bankruptcy, and had previously discharged three mortgages and two Home Equity loans. (The sticking point was that I hadn't sold my old place yet.)

When I applied for a FOID card, I sent them $11.00 and a picture.

So because you had a lousy mortgage company, we should be punished?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nope.........not my statistic.....actual research...

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—

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A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)


2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey

Clinton's study by the DOJ....

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

Applying those restrictions leaves 19 NSPOF respondents (0.8 percent of the sample), representing 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known estimate of Kleck and Gertz, shown in the last column of exhibit 7. While the NSPOF estimate is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. Inclusion of multiple DGUs reported by half of the 19 NSPOF respondents increases the estimate to 4.7 million DGUs.



n the third column of Table 6.2, we apply the Kleck and Gertz (1995) criteria for "genuine" DGUs (type A), leaving us with just 19 respondents. They represent 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known Kleck and Gertz estimate of 2.5 million, shown in the last

While ours is smaller, it is staistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. to the when we include the multiple DGUs victim. defensive reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 milli

While ours is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference petrator; in most cases (69 percent), the is due to sampling error. Note that when we include the multiple DGUs reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 million DGUs.
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As shown in Table 6.6, the defender fired his or her gun in 27 percent of these incidents (combined "fire warning shots" and "fire at perpetrator" percentages, though some respondents reported firing both warning shots and airning at the perpetrator). Forty percent of these were "warning shots," and about a third were aimed at the perpetrator but missed. The perpetrator was wounded by the crime victim in eight percent of all DGUs. In nine percent of DGUs the victim captured and held the perpetrator at gunpoint until the police could arrive.

Obama's study...

Defensive Use of Guns

Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010).
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence |The National Academies Press.

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence |The National Academies Press

I know why you do this, but posting walls and walls of text is not going to convince any liberal gun grabber.