Balanced approach to the debt

[Quantum Windbag]

Obama likes to talk about his balanced approach to the debt. It involves raising taxes and spending more money, and will magically reduce the debt at some unknown point in the future. My guess is that will either be when hell freezes over, or when the US defaults on all its debts.

 

[waltky]

Smart kid...

Teen Offers Idea to Save Government $400 Million per Year
March 28, 2014 — American government could save $400 million a year by doing one thing: changing the typeface on its documents. According to a new study, using a thinner font could save millions of dollars in ink -- in fact, with that one small modification, federal and state governments could slash their printing budgets by nearly 25%.

But the research isn't coming out of Harvard Business School. Instead, it's originating from Dorseyville Middle School in Pittsburgh and was conducted by 14-year old Suvir Mirchandani.

What started out as a sixth-grade science fair project has now garnered national attention, something my middle school presentation on UFOs never did. It began when Mirchandani noticed just how much printed material he was handed each day – way more than in elementary school. While most of us just smell the paper and then pass it on, this young man was operating at a much higher level: He thought that there must be a way to make the process more cost-efficient. Recycled paper was a given, nearly everybody had thought of that. But reducing the amount of ink might be the trick.

So, Mirchandani enlarged a sampling of the most common letters in various typefaces, weighed them and determined the most efficient font. His conclusion: the school district could save 24% or $21,000 annually, if teachers simply switched to a thinner, more efficient font – namely, the classic and stylish Garamond. Besides saving money, his study noted that the lower ink consumption would reduce environmental damage. Not content to reduce the budget of just his local school district, young Mirchandani turned his attention to the $1.8 billion printing budget of the U.S. government.

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[Darkwind]

If they wrote a budget that came in at 25% under the current income level and used those monies to pay the debt exclusively, it will take 30 years to pay off the debt.

So I think we should get started right away....

 

[FA_Q2]

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The sad part is this is exactly how they think. We can 'save' by decreasing the increase in spending. Completely asinine.

 

[The Rabbi]

The problem is every time someone proposes a cut in the increase in a program the Dems scream that women and children will be begging in the streets while dogs eat the bodies of the elderly who have starved to death.
The Dems are the biggest obstacle to fiscal sanity.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We should start by reducing our defense spending to a percentage of GDP equal to the average percent of GDP of all the nations we're currently defending for free.

 

[Darkwind]

We should start by reducing our defense spending to a percentage of GDP equal to the average percent of GDP of all the nations we're currently defending for free.

Or we can continue to remain free and follow the Constitution by fully funding our defense against any and all nations.

A much more sound policy.

 

[Rozman]

Obama likes to talk about his balanced approach to the debt. It involves raising taxes and spending more money, and will magically reduce the debt at some unknown point in the future. My guess is that will either be when hell freezes over, or when the US defaults on all its debts.

Isn't it interesting how a Democrat looks at how to solve a problem..
Let's tax somone more and then spend more.

 

[editec]

To WHOM do we owe these trillions?

Where did THEY get these TRILLIONS?

THINK, people, think!

 

[Redfish]

We should start by reducing our defense spending to a percentage of GDP equal to the average percent of GDP of all the nations we're currently defending for free.

how about cutting every item in the federal budget by 25%? everything, across the board, no exceptions.

2nd, if we cut the DOD budget to the level you suggest, we will put hundreds of thousands of people on the unemployment rolls. where do we get the money for that? Is it better to have them working building planes, ships, and tanks or sitting at home waiting for an unemployment check?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Yep,

Reduce defense to 400 billion---Bring troops home throughout the world and dock half of our navy.
Cut unemployment to 50 weeks
Cut welfare back to 2009 levels
Stop bailing out wall street

Leave infrastructure, science and r&d investment at the current low level here at home. Lowest level since the 90's.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We should start by reducing our defense spending to a percentage of GDP equal to the average percent of GDP of all the nations we're currently defending for free.

how about cutting every item in the federal budget by 25%? everything, across the board, no exceptions.

So the nws, nasa, fda, cdc. You don't understand how our economy works, don't you?

 

[Redfish]

We should start by reducing our defense spending to a percentage of GDP equal to the average percent of GDP of all the nations we're currently defending for free.

how about cutting every item in the federal budget by 25%? everything, across the board, no exceptions.

So the nws, nasa, fda, cdc. You don't understand how our economy works, don't you?

yes, my young friend, I understand it quite well. Its you who is naive. We cannot continue to spend more than we collect. There are not enough rich people to cover the deficit even if we took 100% from them.

Every govt agency wastes at least 25% of its budget. There would be no degradation of service and they might actually work better.

 

[Redfish]

Yep,

Reduce defense to 400 billion---Bring troops home throughout the world and dock half of our navy.
Cut unemployment to 50 weeks
Cut welfare back to 2009 levels
Stop bailing out wall street

Leave infrastructure, science and r&d investment at the current low level here at home. Lowest level since the 90's.

what do you suggest we do with the people who will be unemployed by a defense cut that large? put them on unemployment for 50 weeks? then what?

Is it better to have people employed building miliitary hardware or unemployed collecting a meager check from the govt?

these issues are never as simple as you want to make them out to be.

 

[Rozman]

The problem is every time someone proposes a cut in the increase in a program the Dems scream that women and children will be begging in the streets while dogs eat the bodies of the elderly who have starved to death.
The Dems are the biggest obstacle to fiscal sanity.

The Libs went friggin nutz over the sequester....
On and on they went and bitched about the cuts in programs and how the republicans
stopped funding to food programs and how people were gonna be without food....

And the reality was that the cuts were made on proposed spending increases and not cuts to the programs themselves....

Did anyone at MSNBC tell you guys the truth about that....

Nope....
Why would the Obama Supreme ball licker Chris Mathews ever tell the truth....

 

[The Rabbi]

Yep,

Reduce defense to 400 billion---Bring troops home throughout the world and dock half of our navy.
Cut unemployment to 50 weeks
Cut welfare back to 2009 levels
Stop bailing out wall street

Leave infrastructure, science and r&d investment at the current low level here at home. Lowest level since the 90's.

what do you suggest we do with the people who will be unemployed by a defense cut that large? put them on unemployment for 50 weeks? then what?

Is it better to have people employed building miliitary hardware or unemployed collecting a meager check from the govt?

these issues are never as simple as you want to make them out to be.

It's a poor argument because you could say the same about all gov't workers.
The better argument is, Defense is a responsibility of the federal gov't, blueberry prices are not. We spend more for our military because our military's mission is much bigger. It is bigger because we are a super power. It is good we are a superpower because otherwise wars break out and death and misery ensue.

 

[The T]

Yep,

Reduce defense to 400 billion---Bring troops home throughout the world and dock half of our navy.
Cut unemployment to 50 weeks
Cut welfare back to 2009 levels
Stop bailing out wall street

Leave infrastructure, science and r&d investment at the current low level here at home. Lowest level since the 90's.

WHY does Government have to fund it? Have something against the private sector/INVENTION/Entrepeneurship on an INDIVIDUAL level doing it without Government help?

THINK MATT...if you dare.

 

[Redfish]

Yep,

Reduce defense to 400 billion---Bring troops home throughout the world and dock half of our navy.
Cut unemployment to 50 weeks
Cut welfare back to 2009 levels
Stop bailing out wall street

Leave infrastructure, science and r&d investment at the current low level here at home. Lowest level since the 90's.

what do you suggest we do with the people who will be unemployed by a defense cut that large? put them on unemployment for 50 weeks? then what?

Is it better to have people employed building miliitary hardware or unemployed collecting a meager check from the govt?

these issues are never as simple as you want to make them out to be.

It's a poor argument because you could say the same about all gov't workers.
The better argument is, Defense is a responsibility of the federal gov't, blueberry prices are not. We spend more for our military because our military's mission is much bigger. It is bigger because we are a super power. It is good we are a superpower because otherwise wars break out and death and misery ensue.

I agree to a point, but I do not think we should go in debt to police the world. we do not need bases all over the world to protect this country from invasion or to protect americans overseas. We need a strong military, we agree on that.

If Germany or Japan or Korea, or any other country wants a US base in their country to protect them, then they should pay 100% of the cost of the base.

the USA cannot afford to, nor should it, be the world's police force.

 

[Redfish]

Yep,

Reduce defense to 400 billion---Bring troops home throughout the world and dock half of our navy.
Cut unemployment to 50 weeks
Cut welfare back to 2009 levels
Stop bailing out wall street

Leave infrastructure, science and r&d investment at the current low level here at home. Lowest level since the 90's.

WHY does Government have to fund it? Have something against the private sector/INVENTION/Entrepeneurship on an INDIVIDUAL level doing it without Government help?

THINK MATT...if you dare.

I guess Matt thinks that Henry Ford, Alexander Bell, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs came up with their inventions using government funding.

 

[Duped]

Dealing with the debt requires pain; an insurmountable obstacle - the takers will not endure it. Their liberal overseers are not concerned with lowering the debt; they are intent on raising it to the point of collapse ( Cloward + Piven )

No one can succeed politically on pain - too many impotent cowards that think government owes them