Bakery Owners Refuse to Pay Gay Extortionists

[martybegan]

"The business owner can have it, as long as the discrimination is not systemic and does not impact necessary services. One baker refusing to provide a cake is not systemic, and a wedding cake is not a necessary service." That is a false defense. Show that systemic discrimination based against a class of persons should be permitted and show why a necessary service has anything to do with it.

"Authoritarians such as yourself run to government to fix hurt feelings, using laws that were designed to root out systemic discrimination which led to economic inequality." Your personal definition of "Authoritarians" is laughable.

Once again, you seem unable to use the quote function properly.

And it is not a false defense, it is reading of the laws as they were intended, not a sop to people who faint at the thought of people not approving of their lifestyle.

You are such an authoritarian about "quote feature."

I am responding to the meat of a quote, not to the poster. You are not qualified to read and interpret them "as they were intended", for your libertarianism disqualifies you pre-emptively.

Nice attempt at justifying you being a troll asshole, but like all your posts, it fails on the merits.

and calling you out about it is not being authoritarian, running to the mods and whining to them to do something would be.

 

[daws101]

what discussion? you are desperately trying to force a completely unrealistic scenario in to a real world situation.
religious beliefs are superseded by PA laws.

It's the same concept, but since you can't answer it without being seen as an oppressive ****, you have to ignore it.

You WANT PA laws to override religious beliefs, the idea that they should is what is up for debate.

Considering the only "harm" that is occurring here is hurt feelings, what you want is oppression of people who hold beliefs other than yours.

No it's not reality and fantasy are two separate things.
I have answered you aren't getting the results you want and whining like a ***** because of it.

You are dodging because you know the answer you want to give makes you look like a fascist thug.

False I've dodged nothing .
Being called a fascist by a true fascist is an oximoron.

I'm not the one supporting government punishment of people for their beliefs, you are.

And all you have been doing is dodging.

thanks captain obsession

 

[daws101]

false! you wish that's what I wanted , that not only makes you a gargantuan asshole but a mental one to boot!

Deny it all you want, but it's true. Now kindly go play in traffic.

Who's dening anything , you are a gargantuan asshole .

Awww, Daws has a sadz? Being called out for the chickenshit you are?
You want to **** people over, but you lack the balls to do it yourself, so you get government to do it for you, and you sit there and smile as people are crushed.

*******. Asshole. ****.

Happy to disappoint you ,
***** slapping you is a pleasure and a community service .

The only thing getting slapped down is your ego. You lost, you dodged, get over it, wanker.

false just not playing by your completely arbitrary rules.
only a vindictive tiny dicked whiner would go on about it for days.

 

[Dragonlady]

what discussion? you are desperately trying to force a completely unrealistic scenario in to a real world situation.
religious beliefs are superseded by PA laws.

It's the same concept, but since you can't answer it without being seen as an oppressive ****, you have to ignore it.

You WANT PA laws to override religious beliefs, the idea that they should is what is up for debate.

Considering the only "harm" that is occurring here is hurt feelings, what you want is oppression of people who hold beliefs other than yours.

No it's not reality and fantasy are two separate things.
I have answered you aren't getting the results you want and whining like a ***** because of it.

You are dodging because you know the answer you want to give makes you look like a fascist thug.

False I've dodged nothing .
Being called a fascist by a true fascist is an oximoron.

I'm not the one supporting government punishment of people for their beliefs, you are.

And all you have been doing is dodging.

There was a lot more harm done than hurt feelings. There were threats of violence against these women because the bakers published their names and address on the bakery's Facebook page.

The women nearly lost custody of the children they were in the process of adopting because of these threats.

The bakers weren't fined for refusing to bake the cake, they were fined for publicizing the names and addresses of the women who filed the complaint.

You should read the facts of the case before spouting off.

 

[martybegan]

It's the same concept, but since you can't answer it without being seen as an oppressive ****, you have to ignore it.

You WANT PA laws to override religious beliefs, the idea that they should is what is up for debate.

Considering the only "harm" that is occurring here is hurt feelings, what you want is oppression of people who hold beliefs other than yours.

No it's not reality and fantasy are two separate things.
I have answered you aren't getting the results you want and whining like a ***** because of it.

You are dodging because you know the answer you want to give makes you look like a fascist thug.

False I've dodged nothing .
Being called a fascist by a true fascist is an oximoron.

I'm not the one supporting government punishment of people for their beliefs, you are.

And all you have been doing is dodging.

There was a lot more harm done than hurt feelings. There were threats of violence against these women because the bakers published their names and address on the bakery's Facebook page.

The women nearly lost custody of the children they were in the process of adopting because of these threats.

The bakers weren't fined for refusing to bake the cake, they were fined for publicizing the names and addresses of the women who filed the complaint.

You should read the facts of the case before spouting off.

No, they were fined for the cake. Do you have a link showing the fine was for publishing the names?

 

[Dragonlady]

I read an extensive article on the proceedings at the time of the initial ruling but can't find it now.

I'm in the process of unpacking from a recent move and my I'm just using my phone. No internet connection yet.

 

[Sally Vater]

It's the same concept, but since you can't answer it without being seen as an oppressive ****, you have to ignore it.

You WANT PA laws to override religious beliefs, the idea that they should is what is up for debate.

Considering the only "harm" that is occurring here is hurt feelings, what you want is oppression of people who hold beliefs other than yours.

No it's not reality and fantasy are two separate things.
I have answered you aren't getting the results you want and whining like a ***** because of it.

You are dodging because you know the answer you want to give makes you look like a fascist thug.

False I've dodged nothing .
Being called a fascist by a true fascist is an oximoron.

I'm not the one supporting government punishment of people for their beliefs, you are.

And all you have been doing is dodging.

There was a lot more harm done than hurt feelings. There were threats of violence against these women because the bakers published their names and address on the bakery's Facebook page.

The women nearly lost custody of the children they were in the process of adopting because of these threats.

The bakers weren't fined for refusing to bake the cake, they were fined for publicizing the names and addresses of the women who filed the complaint.

You should read the facts of the case before spouting off.

Good. Homosexuals should never be allowed to raise children.