Bah Bah Blacksheep and Robert Conrad

[Vrenn]

A few years ago, Willian Conrad had his own online internet program. I called in and was put on the Air. Things were going fine until I asked about the episode where the F-4U(of 1943) was vying for the long range attack on Yamamato. They used a P-51D which was not available until the middled of 1944. In Feb, 1943, the only P-51 that would have been available would have been the A model which lacked just about every needed flight characteristic including with the A, it would have been a one way trip. His answer to that was there were no P-38s available. I didn't say anything on that. But I know during the middle 70s there was a group of 9 that toured the US. The problem is, according to Conrad, that episode was shot in Honduras. That episode was directed by Conrad. Right after I had enough of this treating us like we are stupid, I stopped talking. One of the coldest times for any show is silence. Things got quiet for about 10 seconds and he asked if that was it. I just said Yup and let his program.

That TV program went from number one to the bottom of my list after that. I didn't even get the chance to ask him why the B-24s were being escorted by the F-4U.

 

[Concerned American]

A few years ago, Willian Conrad had his own online internet program. I called in and was put on the Air. Things were going fine until I asked about the episode where the F-4U(of 1943) was vying for the long range attack on Yamamato. They used a P-51D which was not available until the middled of 1944. In Feb, 1943, the only P-51 that would have been available would have been the A model which lacked just about every needed flight characteristic including with the A, it would have been a one way trip. His answer to that was there were no P-38s available. I didn't say anything on that. But I know during the middle 70s there was a group of 9 that toured the US. The problem is, according to Conrad, that episode was shot in Honduras. That episode was directed by Conrad. Right after I had enough of this treating us like we are stupid, I stopped talking. One of the coldest times for any show is silence. Things got quiet for about 10 seconds and he asked if that was it. I just said Yup and let his program.

That TV program went from number one to the bottom of my list after that. I didn't even get the chance to ask him why the B-24s were being escorted by the F-4U.

Robert Conrad is an actor stupid, and not a very good one at that. The fact that he played Pappy Boyington in a fictional series and you are expecting facts tells everything anyone needs to know about you. Did you get your wild west history lessons from Wild Wild West too.

 

[Vrenn]

Robert Conrad is an actor stupid, and not a very good one at that. The fact that he played Pappy Boyington in a fictional series and you are expecting facts tells everything anyone needs to know about you. Did you get your wild west history lessons from Wild Wild West too.

You don't get it, gotcha, he made his living from claiming to be what he wasn't. After the program stopped, he used that to make him look like a military expert. And, like any decent military program, it should have decent advisors. It obviously didn't.


And the only lesson I learned from the Wild Wild West was to not do my own stunts.

 

[Oddball]

Robert Conrad is an actor stupid, and not a very good one at that. The fact that he played Pappy Boyington in a fictional series and you are expecting facts tells everything anyone needs to know about you. Did you get your wild west history lessons from Wild Wild West too.

In a Stephen J Cannell series, no less....The dude who made the thoroughly laughable A-Team.

The only thing that kept that thin gruel show on the air for as long as it was, were the action sequences with the real planes and the stock footage.

 

[Concerned American]

You don't get it, gotcha, he made his living from claiming to be what he wasn't. After the program stopped, he used that to make him look like a military expert. And, like any decent military program, it should have decent advisors. It obviously didn't.


And the only lesson I learned from the Wild Wild West was to not do my own stunts.

Robert Conrad was a drunken blowhard. He spent a LOT of time in Bear Valley, CA in the 80s-90s. He was not very popular and was busted at least once for drunk driving in that area. Again, what's your point. I don't think anyone thought that Baa Baa Blacksheep was an historical account. It was entertainment. LOL

 

[Concerned American]

In a Stephen J Cannell series, no less....The dude who made the thoroughly laughable A-Team.

The only thing that kept that thin gruel show on the air for as long as it was, were the action sequences with the real planes and the stock footage.

It's like looking to McHale's Navy for a history lesson. LOL

 

[Oddball]

If you wonder how he eats and breathes and other science facts

la-la-la

Just repeat to yourself "it's just a show, I should really just relax"

 

[HikerGuy83]

A few years ago, Willian Conrad had his own online internet program. I called in and was put on the Air. Things were going fine until I asked about the episode where the F-4U(of 1943) was vying for the long range attack on Yamamato. They used a P-51D which was not available until the middled of 1944. In Feb, 1943, the only P-51 that would have been available would have been the A model which lacked just about every needed flight characteristic including with the A, it would have been a one way trip. His answer to that was there were no P-38s available. I didn't say anything on that. But I know during the middle 70s there was a group of 9 that toured the US. The problem is, according to Conrad, that episode was shot in Honduras. That episode was directed by Conrad. Right after I had enough of this treating us like we are stupid, I stopped talking. One of the coldest times for any show is silence. Things got quiet for about 10 seconds and he asked if that was it. I just said Yup and let his program.

That TV program went from number one to the bottom of my list after that. I didn't even get the chance to ask him why the B-24s were being escorted by the F-4U.

And you are losing sleep over this ?

Or are you still just butthurt.

It was a TV program.....i.e. entertainment.....loosely based on a real life story.

 

[HikerGuy83]

And, like any decent military program, it should have decent advisors. It obviously didn't.

Serving in the South Pacific, Boyington led the courageous VMF-214 fighter squadron, dubbed the "Black Sheep." Boyington would serve as a consultant on the television series based on his career.Jul 11, 2024

 

[eagle1462010]

I loved baa baa black sheep growing up.

Was a great series.

Nuff said

 

[Vrenn]

Robert Conrad was a drunken blowhard. He spent a LOT of time in Bear Valley, CA in the 80s-90s. He was not very popular and was busted at least once for drunk driving in that area. Again, what's your point. I don't think anyone thought that Baa Baa Blacksheep was an historical account. It was entertainment. LOL

One thing I have learned is to not stay around someone that is constanstly looking for a fight to further their own ego. With that in mind, you can just enter the "Gracie Land".

 

[progressive hunter]

One thing I have learned is to not stay around someone that is constanstly looking for a fight to further their own ego. With that in mind, you can just enter the "Gracie Land".

are you saying you dont have any friends??

 

[Vrenn]

are you saying you dont have any friends??

At my age, I've outlived almost all of my friends and don't feel the undying need to go get more out of a bunch of garbage. I have, maybe, 2 or 3 real friends who deserve my unity. Everyone else is just there. I don't need you as my friend as you are not genuine.

 

[progressive hunter]

At my age, I've outlived almost all of my friends and don't feel the undying need to go get more out of a bunch of garbage. I have, maybe, 2 or 3 real friends who deserve my unity. Everyone else is just there. I don't need you as my friend as you are not genuine.

sure you do

 

[whitehall]

The post belongs in the movie review forum not the military. You can't expect a show like that to be historically accurate.

 

[Concerned American]

One thing I have learned is to not stay around someone that is constanstly looking for a fight to further their own ego.

Your OP's only reason is exactly what you just posted^^. LOL, look in the mirror.

 

[Robert W]

A few years ago, Willian Conrad had his own online internet program. I called in and was put on the Air. Things were going fine until I asked about the episode where the F-4U(of 1943) was vying for the long range attack on Yamamato. They used a P-51D which was not available until the middled of 1944. In Feb, 1943, the only P-51 that would have been available would have been the A model which lacked just about every needed flight characteristic including with the A, it would have been a one way trip. His answer to that was there were no P-38s available. I didn't say anything on that. But I know during the middle 70s there was a group of 9 that toured the US. The problem is, according to Conrad, that episode was shot in Honduras. That episode was directed by Conrad. Right after I had enough of this treating us like we are stupid, I stopped talking. One of the coldest times for any show is silence. Things got quiet for about 10 seconds and he asked if that was it. I just said Yup and let his program.

That TV program went from number one to the bottom of my list after that. I didn't even get the chance to ask him why the B-24s were being escorted by the F-4U.

I was at the Livermore, CA air show and Boyington was there. He was very old. I did not ask him questions but others did. Movies and TV programs do not need to deal in truth. They are not history, but entertainment. Boyington's age wore on him.

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Description​

Here, in his own words, is the true story of America's wildest flying hero, of his extraordinary heroism, and of his greatest battle of all—the fight to survive.The World War II air war in the Pacific needed tough men like Colonel Pappy Boyington and his Black Sheep Squadron. ... Google Books
Originally published: 1958
Author: Pappy Boyington
Genres: Autobiography, Biography, Personal narrative

Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (December 4, 1912 – January 11, 1988) was an American combat pilot who was a United States Marine Corps fighter ace during World War II. He received the Medal of Honor and the Navy Cross. A Marine aviator with the Pacific fleet in 1941, Boyington joined the "Flying Tigers" (1st American Volunteer Group) of the Republic of China Air Force and saw combat in Burma in late 1941 and 1942 during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

In September 1942, Boyington rejoined the Marine Corps. In early 1943, he deployed to the South Pacific and began flying combat missions in the F4U Corsair fighter. On August 14, 1943, he took command of Marine fighter squadron VMF-214 ("Black Sheep").

In January 1944, Boyington, outnumbered by Japanese "Zero" planes, was shot down into the Pacific Ocean after downing one of the enemy planes. He was captured by a Japanese submarine crew and was held as a prisoner of war for more than a year and a half. He was released shortly after the surrender of Japan.

 

[Concerned American]

I was at the Livermore, CA air show and Boyington was there. He was very old. I did not ask him questions but others did. Movies and TV programs do not need to deal in truth. They are not history, but entertainment. Boyington's age wore on him.

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Baa Baa Black Sheep got a 4.04 stars review on Goodreads.
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Description​

Here, in his own words, is the true story of America's wildest flying hero, of his extraordinary heroism, and of his greatest battle of all—the fight to survive.The World War II air war in the Pacific needed tough men like Colonel Pappy Boyington and his Black Sheep Squadron. ... Google Books
Originally published: 1958
Author: Pappy Boyington
Genres: Autobiography, Biography, Personal narrative

Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (December 4, 1912 – January 11, 1988) was an American combat pilot who was a United States Marine Corps fighter ace during World War II. He received the Medal of Honor and the Navy Cross. A Marine aviator with the Pacific fleet in 1941, Boyington joined the "Flying Tigers" (1st American Volunteer Group) of the Republic of China Air Force and saw combat in Burma in late 1941 and 1942 during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

In September 1942, Boyington rejoined the Marine Corps. In early 1943, he deployed to the South Pacific and began flying combat missions in the F4U Corsair fighter. On August 14, 1943, he took command of Marine fighter squadron VMF-214 ("Black Sheep").

In January 1944, Boyington, outnumbered by Japanese "Zero" planes, was shot down into the Pacific Ocean after downing one of the enemy planes. He was captured by a Japanese submarine crew and was held as a prisoner of war for more than a year and a half. He was released shortly after the surrender of Japan.

Pappy Boyington was a native American of Sioux descent born in Couer d'Alene, ID where the Couer d'Alene airport bears the name Pappy Boyington field. Many of his family live in central CA. He died in 1988.

 

[Robert W]

Pappy Boyington was a native American of Sioux descent born in Couer d'Alene, ID where the Couer d'Alene airport bears the name Pappy Boyington field. Many of his family live in central CA. He died in 1988.

I knew he died in 1988 and I am guessing I was at his table in Livermore, CA around 1981. Then I went to air shows annually. That was the time I was next to a SIAI Marchetti airplane made in Italy. It was a beauty and super fast. It was used as a trainer for some air forces.

SIAI-Marchetti SF.260 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Concerned American]

I knew he died in 1988 and I am guessing I was at his table in Livermore, CA around 1981. Then I went to air shows annually. That was the time I was next to a SIAI Marchetti airplane made in Italy. It was a beauty and super fast. It was used as a trainer for some air forces.

SIAI-Marchetti SF.260 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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I believe Boyington Jr. still lives in Livermore and is in his 80s. Other family lives in Fresno.