Bachmann signs The Family Lead pledge

If she wants to pander to the far right let her. I don't understand why anyone is upset about her making that choice, I did not even understand why people were upset with Obama pandering to the far left when he was running in 2007. If she actually gets elected and starts trying to enforce a religious state by decree I will speak up and yell, probably louder and more emphatically than you.

Until that happens, who gives a ****?

What kind of reasoning is that? Only complain about someone supporting stupid policies when they take office?
 
PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED: Vow 9 stipulates that the candidate must “support human protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy” and protect them from “seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography…and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”

This is for the ******* retards who are trying to use "its for the children" bullshit excuse.
Do tell , what does ALL forms mean?
Pssst. Ummmm, there was no mention of banning anything in the subject pledge.
 
PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED: Vow 9 stipulates that the candidate must “support human protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy” and protect them from “seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography…and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”

This is for the ******* retards who are trying to use "its for the children" bullshit excuse.
Do tell , what does ALL forms mean?
Pssst. Ummmm, there was no mention of banning anything in the subject pledge.

You are correct.

Deducing that restrictions are the obvious intended inference requires one to have at least passed the third grade.
 
BREAKING: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography | ThinkProgress

BREAKING: BACHMANN PLEDGES TO BAN PORNOGRAPHY | Tonight, Michele Bachmann became the first presidential candidate to sign a pledge created by THE FAMiLY LEADER, an influential social-conservative group in Iowa. By signing the pledge Bachmann “vows” to “uphold the institution of marriage as only between one man and one woman” by committing herself to 14 specifics steps. The ninth step calls for the banning of “all forms” of pornography. The pledge also states that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk. You can read all the details of the pledge here.

And it says that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk.

"Small government Conservatism" at it's finest. :thup:

Edit:

I didn't see the footnotes, I'll admit. If she was just referring to child pornography then I was incorrect in my OP.

That being said, the vow was written pretty poorly then. I read it originally as women and the future generation of this country later on, not today. Because why mention women and banning all forms of pornography in the same sentence if you mean to ban only child pornography?

But again, if the pledge refers to just child pornography, then I was incorrect in posting my OP and was wrong.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that the wife of Marcus Bachmann would embrace the concept that homosexuality (as in behavior) is a choice.
 
This is the same BS they pulled on Palin, saying she wanted to ban books.

The dishonesty sometimes is AMAZING.
 
BREAKING: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography | ThinkProgress

BREAKING: BACHMANN PLEDGES TO BAN PORNOGRAPHY | Tonight, Michele Bachmann became the first presidential candidate to sign a pledge created by THE FAMiLY LEADER, an influential social-conservative group in Iowa. By signing the pledge Bachmann “vows” to “uphold the institution of marriage as only between one man and one woman” by committing herself to 14 specifics steps. The ninth step calls for the banning of “all forms” of pornography. The pledge also states that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk. You can read all the details of the pledge here.

And it says that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk.

"Small government Conservatism" at it's finest. :thup:

Edit:

I didn't see the footnotes, I'll admit. If she was just referring to child pornography then I was incorrect in my OP.

That being said, the vow was written pretty poorly then. I read it originally as women and the future generation of this country later on, not today. Because why mention women and banning all forms of pornography in the same sentence if you mean to ban only child pornography?

But again, if the pledge refers to just child pornography, then I was incorrect in posting my OP and was wrong.

Well, it's not as if any gay voter was going to vote for her anyways. We like our candidates sane at least.
 
This is for the ******* retards who are trying to use "its for the children" bullshit excuse.
Do tell , what does ALL forms mean?
Pssst. Ummmm, there was no mention of banning anything in the subject pledge.

You are correct.

Deducing that restrictions are the obvious inference requires one to have at least passed the third grade.

Really?
Driving has restrictions when it comes to children. Alcohol has restrictions when it comes to children. Tobacco has restrictions when it comes to children. Are you worried about those being banned?
 
are you having a bad morning, Si?

i have no problem reading. but you're being a bit disingenuous saying it's a "personal" pledge. it's a" personal" pledge to violate the court's decisions on the 1st amendment and to infringe on people's equal protection under the law.
as far as her comments on homosexuality being "choice", she has the right to be as stupid as she wishes.

now, would you be as understanding if the "personal" pledge were to ban guns in this country? or would you say she wanted to violate your constitutional rights, was trying to take away our guns "like they did in nazi germany" and point out the decision in the heller case?

i'm thinking you'd have done the latter.

as for seawytch, i'm afraid that whether someone is a lesbian or not really isn't much concern to me. and if you want to talk about "angry", i'd look more at steffie's lunatic posts. but there ya go.

got to run for a bit... will look back later.

The whole damn op is disingenuous since that's not what the pledge said at all to begin with. Go read the damn thing. Sheesh.

Raises hand. I read it. How to ban All forms of porno? See words mean things and ALL means every single snippet of it.
Go play with your optimus prime.
 
I don't think these candidates should be signing these vows or these petitions, but after reading the thing, it's clear the OP was meant to mislead us on it's intent.

Oh? And just what IS the intent of "the Pledge" in your estimation?

I see a lot of homophobia in it...not surprising that Bachmman, whose husband is gay as a three dollar bill, would sign it. Michelle Bachmman must live in constant fear of that phone call...


"ma'am, we've arrested your husband in a public restroom"

wow, nasty and you liberals are as always, so tolerant.

What is intolerant about that post?
 
BREAKING: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography | ThinkProgress

BREAKING: BACHMANN PLEDGES TO BAN PORNOGRAPHY | Tonight, Michele Bachmann became the first presidential candidate to sign a pledge created by THE FAMiLY LEADER, an influential social-conservative group in Iowa. By signing the pledge Bachmann “vows” to “uphold the institution of marriage as only between one man and one woman” by committing herself to 14 specifics steps. The ninth step calls for the banning of “all forms” of pornography. The pledge also states that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk. You can read all the details of the pledge here.

And it says that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk.

"Small government Conservatism" at it's finest. :thup:

Edit:

I didn't see the footnotes, I'll admit. If she was just referring to child pornography then I was incorrect in my OP.

That being said, the vow was written pretty poorly then. I read it originally as women and the future generation of this country later on, not today. Because why mention women and banning all forms of pornography in the same sentence if you mean to ban only child pornography?

But again, if the pledge refers to just child pornography, then I was incorrect in posting my OP and was wrong.

Well, it's not as if any gay voter was going to vote for her anyways. We like our candidates sane at least.

Oh so now you are the spokesperson for ALL homosexuals?
and you want candidates sane, yet you voted for the Obama..:lol:
 
Let's get something straight:

The candidate pledge is not a personal pledge. It explicitly states above:

"Therefore, in any elected or appointed capacity by which I may have the honor of serving our fellow citizens in these United States, I the undersigned do hereby solemnly vow* to honor and to cherish, to defend and to uphold, the Institution of Marriage as only between one man and one woman. I vow* to do so through my:

How is a elected official going to protect "women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy" from abortion? I don't think it's going to be through a strongly worded letter.
 
are you having a bad morning, Si?

i have no problem reading. but you're being a bit disingenuous saying it's a "personal" pledge. it's a" personal" pledge to violate the court's decisions on the 1st amendment and to infringe on people's equal protection under the law.
as far as her comments on homosexuality being "choice", she has the right to be as stupid as she wishes.

now, would you be as understanding if the "personal" pledge were to ban guns in this country? or would you say she wanted to violate your constitutional rights, was trying to take away our guns "like they did in nazi germany" and point out the decision in the heller case?

i'm thinking you'd have done the latter.

as for seawytch, i'm afraid that whether someone is a lesbian or not really isn't much concern to me. and if you want to talk about "angry", i'd look more at steffie's lunatic posts. but there ya go.

got to run for a bit... will look back later.

The whole damn op is disingenuous since that's not what the pledge said at all to begin with. Go read the damn thing. Sheesh.

Raises hand. I read it. How to ban All forms of porno? See words mean things and ALL means every single snippet of it.
Psssst. There was no mention of banning anything in the personal pledge.
 
This is for the ******* retards who are trying to use "its for the children" bullshit excuse.
Do tell , what does ALL forms mean?
Pssst. Ummmm, there was no mention of banning anything in the subject pledge.

PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED: Vow 9 stipulates that the candidate must “support human protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy” and protect them from “seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography…and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”

How do you protect them from Porn? Either you ban it or you brainwash them to think like you do.

false dilemma.
 
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If she wants to pander to the far right let her. I don't understand why anyone is upset about her making that choice, I did not even understand why people were upset with Obama pandering to the far left when he was running in 2007. If she actually gets elected and starts trying to enforce a religious state by decree I will speak up and yell, probably louder and more emphatically than you.

Until that happens, who gives a ****?

What kind of reasoning is that? Only complain about someone supporting stupid policies when they take office?

If I went around complaining about Obama's plans to close Gitmo, overturn DOMA, and totally eliminate DADT I would look like a fool right now. Feel free to loof like a fool complaining about Bachman pandering to the extremes all you want. If she gets elected president and turns out to be in favor of all the things she said she was against you will just look stupid.

One rule to remember, everyone lies.
 
This is for the ******* retards who are trying to use "its for the children" bullshit excuse.
Do tell , what does ALL forms mean?
Pssst. Ummmm, there was no mention of banning anything in the subject pledge.

PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED: Vow 9 stipulates that the candidate must “support human protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy” and protect them from “seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography…and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”

How do you protect them from Porn? Either you ban it or you brainwash them to think like you do.

Pssst your being mighty subjective in how you view it because you so happen to agree with the pledge and need to defend it like the partisan you are.
Actually, you have no idea what I believe about the pledge.

I do like accuracy, though. I'm a big fan of it. With accuracy I can make rational decisions. So, there was no mention of banning anything in the pledge.
 
Raises hand. I read it. How to ban All forms of porno? See words mean things and ALL means every single snippet of it.
Psssst. There was no mention of banning anything in the personal pledge.

um its not a personal pledge in the way you are trying to cheaply pass it off as.

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Its a real shame we cant see what their real outlooks are, But from browsing their website, a monkey could figure out their agenda.
I'm looking at the actual pledge (many links to it contained above).

The fact remains that there was no mention of banning anything in the pledge.
 
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